Content Post The Joe Milton Experience All-22

[KCSVEN]

I’d like to add a 3rd qb. One of those squat option college qb’s to do that Tush Push.

Joe Milton: 6' 5" 247 lbs
Hurtz: 6' 1" 222 lbs
Allen: 6' 5" 237 lbs

Joe Milton as the backup can QB sneak/tush push every 3rd and 4th and 1 with 100% success rate. We don't need anyone else. Just need a coaching staff willing to use him.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

Joe Milton: 6' 5" 247 lbs
Hurtz: 6' 1" 222 lbs
Allen: 6' 5" 237 lbs

Joe Milton as the backup can QB sneak/tush push every 3rd and 4th and 1 with 100% success rate. We don't need anyone else. Just need a coaching staff willing to use him.

And an offensive line that doesn’t turn those 3rd and 1s into 3rd and manage with penalties

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

I've never seen a QB improve processing ability more than a little bit. Milton is slow to process, below average for an NFL QB. Maye is really good and probably elite at it.

It's impossible for Milton to ever be a better processor than Maye. Granted Josh Allen is not a great processor but he's not below average either. If you went through all the qualities of a QB, Milton has a stronger arm and is bigger. Every other quality Maye has over Milton.

If Milton could be a 1% outlier of all historical QB's he can develop and be better than Maye. A 1% shot is a shot but considering he'll not play if Maye is playing, he won't be doing that development here.

There is less than ZERO chance Milton beats Maye out for the job.

Just some facts for you and not conjecture...

2022 season
ACC championship game NC vs Clemson

Clemson won 40 to 10.

Maye had 0 touchdown passes... 2 interceptions and a fumble


A few weeks later...


2022 Season
Orange bowl Tn vs Clemson

Tn wins 34 to 14

Milton had 3 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions and no fumbles.




The dude is 6 5 and 240, he can throw a football over a mountain.

And beat maye up with one hand.
 
But mayes got a better football iq...

We shall see.

Milton could be one of the only positives of the Mayo/wolf experience...

"He was an upper-body thrower when [he came to Tennessee] and one goal was to make him a lower-body thrower -- driving off the back foot and letting the arms put the ball where it needs to go," Halzle said, identifying the change as a catalyst for Milton's improved accuracy over time.

Few expected much from Brady that year as the 199th pick, which is similar to the spot where Milton -- who along with the rest of the rookie class arrived in town Thursday -- finds himself.

Halzle pointed out that even though Milton is 24 years old, he has less experience than other prospects, in part due to "a little bit of a bad shake" in which injuries contributed to him twice losing his grip on the No. 1 spot on the depth chart -- first at Michigan, then initially at Tennessee."

'Too much talent' to pass up: Why the Patriots drafted QB Joe Milton III in the sixth round

Even after drafting Drake Maye at No. 3, the Patriots selected another QB on Day 3. Here's why, plus other notes out of New England.

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I hope vrabel tests them both.

 

[KCSVEN]

Just some facts for you and not conjecture...

2022 season
ACC championship game NC vs Clemson

Clemson won 40 to 10.

Maye had 0 touchdown passes... 2 interceptions and a fumble


A few weeks later...


2022 Season
Orange bowl Tn vs Clemson

Tn wins 34 to 14

Milton had 3 touchdown passes and 0 interceptions and no fumbles.




The dude is 6 5 and 240, he can throw a football over a mountain.

And beat maye up with one hand.
 
But mayes got a better football iq...

We shall see.

I don't get the point. Do you watch tape or don't watch tape? Blowout games are meaningless.
Milton was benched for Hendon Hooker in 2022.

You agree Milton can't process at an NFL level and Maye can? If not, I'm not sure what we are talking about because that is incredibly obvious on tape.

Please name all the QB's that can't process that have succeeded?

What % of passes require an arm stronger than Maye's? What % require the touch that Maye has and Milton doesn't?

Can Miton be an NFL starting QB eventually? Of Course, there are some bad starting QB's,
Can he be a top 15 NFL QB? Highly unlikely.

It's all about percentages, MIlton has the physical size and arm strength and has some mobility.
The other metrics he falls short so a low % chance of making it.

Milton can have a very long career as a Taysom Hill type player. His unique size and athleticism used in the right spots would make him an incredibly valuable player.

Beating out the person I had as the top QB prospect of the last decade? Not going to happen.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

I don't get the point. Do you watch tape or don't watch tape? Blowout games are meaningless.
Milton was benched for Hendon Hooker in 2022.

You agree Milton can't process at an NFL level and Maye can? If not, I'm not sure what we are talking about because that is incredibly obvious on tape.

Please name all the QB's that can't process that have succeeded?

What % of passes require an arm stronger than Maye's? What % require the touch that Maye has and Milton doesn't?

Can Miton be an NFL starting QB eventually? Of Course, there are some bad starting QB's,
Can he be a top 15 NFL QB? Highly unlikely.

It's all about percentages, MIlton has the physical size and arm strength and has some mobility.
The other metrics he falls short so a low % chance of making it.

Milton can have a very long career as a Taysom Hill type player. His unique size and athleticism used in the right spots would make him an incredibly valuable player.

Beating out the person I had as the top QB prospect of the last decade? Not going to happen.

You know what the best part about our debate is... we got em both!

I dont believe in dual qbs being a detriment to offense...

I hope milton does learn more... and puts us in a tough trade spot eventually.

I say this having watched the college Texas vs Ohio state game.

Ewers was definitely more experienced... but on the 4th and 1s Manning shines.

I just hope vrabel recognizes their abilities... and uses them to our advantage.

They should have started both Milton and Maye this year...

They both could have used the experience.

Instead brisset... is probably just as bewildered about the 24 season as the fans were.

I'm still looking for positives!

Also im probably not near as tape adverse as you... so i do defer...

However I watched both those games in 22 and I know it's a very small sample... it was however my first impression of Maye... and I thought Milton improved pretty well at TN in 23.

Keep two more things in mind for Milton:

He holds the most tds(throwing and running) in a single game as a volunteer. (Any pats fan should appreciate a nice for peyton)

Also longest qb run in Vols history with an 80 yarder.


I pray vrabel and the OC can figure out how to use them both.

 

[PatsFan2]

You know what the best part about our debate is... we got em both!

I dont believe in dual qbs being a detriment to offense...

I hope milton does learn more... and puts us in a tough trade spot eventually.

I say this having watched the college Texas vs Ohio state game.

Ewers was definitely more experienced... but on the 4th and 1s Manning shines.

I just hope vrabel recognizes their abilities... and uses them to our advantage.

They should have started both Milton and Maye this year...

They both could have used the experience.

Instead brisset... is probably just as bewildered about the 24 season as the fans were.

I'm still looking for positives!

Also im probably not near as tape adverse as you... so i do defer...

However I watched both those games in 22 and I know it's a very small sample... it was however my first impression of Maye... and I thought Milton improved pretty well at TN in 23.

Keep two more things in mind for Milton:

He holds the most tds(throwing and running) in a single game as a volunteer. (Any pats fan should appreciate a nice for peyton)

Also longest qb run in Vols history with an 80 yarder.


I pray vrabel and the OC can figure out how to use them both.

I am curious tos see how Milton looks in TC: If his ceiling is Anthony Richardson that's good returns from a 6th Rounder.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

I am curious tos see how Milton looks in TC: If his ceiling is Anthony Richardson that's good returns from a 6th Rounder.

That's my biggest takeaway... he was a steal in the draft.

Hes on the team... he's probably one of the top 5 most athletic guys on the team...

Change his posistition... use him for specialty plays...... make him a better player and you will have a better offense!

This ain't jared lorenzen... this kid is tall and mobile!

 

[mgteich]

That's my biggest takeaway... he was a steal in the draft.

Hes on the team... he's probably one of the top 5 most athletic guys on the team...

Change his posistition... use him for specialty plays...... make him a better player and you will have a better offense!

This ain't jared lorenzen... this kid is tall and mobile!

which starter would you sit to play Milton?

Milton is a backup, a good draftee in the 6th,

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

which starter would you sit to play Milton?

Milton is a backup, a good draftee in the 6th,

The team ain't together yet...

I wouldnt necessarily replace a starter... just rotate milton as needed. He's fairly impressive when given a chance.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

This is what I got to see in TN....

I know highlight reels are not exactly what to look for... but hes like having a really smart D Henry as your qb... its been a gamble for teams...

He would have been the starting qb for michigan their national championship year.

Milton faced harder teams than Maye in college... he also had injuries... adversity is sometimes a strength.

I was sad to see him benched all year.
You always wanna see your college qb do well in the nfl.

 

[Toofy]

Oh I'm not trading Milton this offseason. I might entertain it next offseason if he shows out in the preseason. I dunno, he will walk at some point after year 4 so, just need to figure out how to maximize the asset.

I'm not crapping on Miton at all, just pushing back on those that somehow think he is comparative to Maye. He isn't, won't ever be barring something unforeseen happening to Drake.

Trade Milton when you can get a second rounder or possibly first. Till then keep developing him. If he turns out to be equal to Maye even more better get 2 1s for Milton from NFC contender.

Milton could be the asset who gets maye his wr1 or LT of the future.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Trade Milton when you can get a second rounder or possibly first. Till then keep developing him. If he turns out to be equal to Maye even more better get 2 1s for Milton from NFC contender.

Milton could be the asset who gets maye his wr1 or LT of the future.

Do you think the 49ers would prefer having Trey Lance or trading for Milton III?

 

[Toofy]

Do you think the 49ers would prefer having Trey Lance or trading for Milton III?

At this point I think they are done with projects.. purdy time it is out there.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

Patriots QB Could Fetch Great Trade Return

The New England Patriots are set at quarterback from a starting perspective for years to come. Drake Maye took the starting job this season, ran with it, and proved that he is worthy of the

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[The Gr8est]

Patriots QB Could Fetch Great Trade Return

The New England Patriots are set at quarterback from a starting perspective for years to come. Drake Maye took the starting job this season, ran with it, and proved that he is worthy of the

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Milton is too valuable to the Pats to trade for less than a 2nd round pick.

There is no reason to consider trading him for less than a substantial offer, and there a lot of QB needy teams.

 

[PatMan]

I don't get the point. Do you watch tape or don't watch tape? Blowout games are meaningless.
Milton was benched for Hendon Hooker in 2022.

You agree Milton can't process at an NFL level and Maye can? If not, I'm not sure what we are talking about because that is incredibly obvious on tape.

Please name all the QB's that can't process that have succeeded?

What % of passes require an arm stronger than Maye's? What % require the touch that Maye has and Milton doesn't?

Can Miton be an NFL starting QB eventually? Of Course, there are some bad starting QB's,
Can he be a top 15 NFL QB? Highly unlikely.

It's all about percentages, MIlton has the physical size and arm strength and has some mobility.
The other metrics he falls short so a low % chance of making it.

Milton can have a very long career as a Taysom Hill type player. His unique size and athleticism used in the right spots would make him an incredibly valuable player.

Beating out the person I had as the top QB prospect of the last decade? Not going to happen.

Gotta throw my hat in the ring here.

Maye won 1 game this year

Milton won 1 game this year

As far as I'm concerned the biggest difference between these guys is one was handed an opportunity and one was handed the starting job.

I like a lot of Maye's skillset, but let's zoom out.

He's turning the ball over twice a game... He lost 90% of the games he was able to play start to finish this year... Of the three quarterbacks on the team... He had the worst win percentage this season.

That doesn't scream success to me. Hopefully it's just a bad rookie season learning the ropes. But you certainly can't claim he did enough to lock up the starting job. If he was a 3rd round draft pick, any NFL team would be bringing in a veteran to compete for the starting job after his rookie performance.

Bottom line... Winners tend to win once they're on the field, and they tend to win big games. That's what Brady showed in the 2000 Orange Bowl after struggling to get on the field for years in college and then struggling to hold the starting job even when he was a team Captain.

That's also what Joe Milton showed 24 years later in the Orange bowl after struggling to get on the field for years in college.

We'll see who gets better this offseason/training camp. I have a feeling both guys are going to get opportunities to start games next year.

 

[dliverey44]

I would only trade him for a 2nd-high 3rd. He looked much improved against buffalo than he did in college, but he played against lower level caliber NFL players. I honestly think that he will not prove to be above a backup level QB, so if we can get a pick above 80 I take it.

 

[The Gr8est]

I would only trade him for a 2nd-high 3rd. He looked much improved against buffalo than he did in college, but he played against lower level caliber NFL players. I honestly think that he will not prove to be above a backup level QB, so if we can get a pick above 80 I take it.

Maybe there will be competition for him.

You get such a haul sometimes for the #1 overall pick because several teams want a player.

 

[Sorrynotsorry]

I would only trade him for a 2nd-high 3rd. He looked much improved against buffalo than he did in college, but he played against lower level caliber NFL players. I honestly think that he will not prove to be above a backup level QB, so if we can get a pick above 80 I take it.

If we don't give him a chance before we trade him... it could be a massive mistake.

Maybe he goes on to another team and does better... I'm ok with that if he didn't work out here first.

Mayo was a complete goob for not playing him in the several blow outs...

49ers
JAGS
Texans
Dolphins 2nd time


What a waste of a season... in so many ways.

 

[KCSVEN]

Gotta throw my hat in the ring here.

Maye won 1 game this year

Milton won 1 game this year

As far as I'm concerned the biggest difference between these guys is one was handed an opportunity and one was handed the starting job.

I like a lot of Maye's skillset, but let's zoom out.

He's turning the ball over twice a game... He lost 90% of the games he was able to play start to finish this year... Of the three quarterbacks on the team... He had the worst win percentage this season.

That doesn't scream success to me. Hopefully it's just a bad rookie season learning the ropes. But you certainly can't claim he did enough to lock up the starting job. If he was a 3rd round draft pick, any NFL team would be bringing in a veteran to compete for the starting job after his rookie performance.

None of this makes any sense. Peyton Manning was 3-13 with 28 picks,
Elway 4-6 with 14 picks
Josh Allen 5-6 with 12 picks
Apparently they are not winners, they all played on a better team with better coaches than Maye.
Other than turnovers, and several of Mayes were on the receivers, not single thing you said is related to QB success historically, your just cherry picking examples.
No team would bring in a veteran to compete with Maye lol
Milton won a game against scrubs, he hasn’t won a game vs an NFL team.