The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[Huckleberry1]

I'm not sure Bunny's into guys her own age.

I’m sure Bunny is totally into anyone with 10’s of millions $$$$. However the less time they have left the better.

 

[sb1]

Now Bill is getting roasted by…Dianna Russini. Yeah. Guess she’s next on the UNC ban list huh?

This guy is a major league embarrassment. Cooked by Diana f’n Russini. He needs to retire now with whatever he hasn’t burned down of his legacy.

 

[Bostonsports]

This is my first post, but my two cents are I will always lean towards Brady who was more responsible for the 6 SB rather than BB. Just look at BB record without TB it speaks for itself and had TB fell on his face and BB won a SB people would be saying BB proved it was him, but it didn't happen that way so it's 50-50. Brady is the GOAT at QB and the best player all time. Can you say that about BB no Joe Gibbs was the GOAT he won 3 SB with 3 different QB's none of them all time greats. I'm surprises Kraft isn't taking more heat in this debate he handcuffed BB with his low budget and he always had to go bargain shopping for his players and the draft he couldn't take the best players he drafted for needs because Kraft would not pay them. Remember it was the Patriots who made a deal with TB to sign Deion Branch and forced BB hand to trade him. Patriots held back BB more than TB so I see both sides.

 

[XLIX]

 

[captain stone]

If I was the TCU coach and I was aware of all the ball washing that was being done to Belichick himself his team and his merry band of grifters supporting him I would’ve made it a point to try and hang a 70 burger on them. Surprised he didn’t.

I was really, Really hoping for at least that 50-Burger.

 

[captain stone]

Take your guess when things started to go south between Brady's relationship with the Pats, but I'm going to guess it was after he was thrown under the bus for "Deflate Gate". In fact, I think it would've started even earlier had the defense failed on the final drive against Seattle in 2014.

After the 2017 Super Bowl is when things really started to go south as the offense put up 613 total yards and no puts yet lost. "ESPN's Ian O'Connor, in his book "Belichick," reported that Brady wanted a "divorce" from his coach. And Brady made it clear to author Mark Leibovich in the book "Big Game" that he was fed up with Belichick's culture, which is to say that he was fed up with Belichick. When asked in Leibovich's book how he would feel if the Patriots released him, Brady was blunt: "They can do whatever they want." They don't talk about it in the article, but remember when Gronk played games and considered retirement? That's why Bill traded him for a 1st round pick to Detroit. Gronk was pretty fed up with Bill as well.

In 2018, they gave Tom an incentive laden contract that put him in line with some pretty pedestrian QB's.

The story behind the split of Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the Patriots

It's finally official: Tom Brady will not be forever a Patriot. But in reality, the quarterback's split with New England can be traced back much further than this offseason.

www.espn.com

By 2019, Tom had enough and was prepared to sit out the year if the Pats didn't remove the franchise tag. The most surprising thing was that Tom Brady at his age and accomplishments had negotiated to allow the team to tag him. Here's Hoyer on the situation:



During the Brown fiasco, it was Kraft that released him and not Bill. Brown asked Bill for another chance, but he told him he'd have to talk to Bob. It was clear Bob did this because he was already dealing with his own problems with the massage parlor incident.

Bob blames Bill for letting Tom go, but Bob is the one that could've easily stepped in and told Bill we are signing Tom to the two year $50M contract. The franchise was really starting to believe that Tom was just a product of it - their biggest mistake.

There was so much Our **** Don't Stink down there, especially after they finally ended the Lost Decade with #4... Anyone remember a report from a few years back that claimed someone in coaching/FO boasted that they could be given any top-half QB and turn him into a champion...?

 

[captain stone]

Well Bill sucked when as a HC when he was young too.

The only period he hasn’t sucked was when Brady was QB. So I start asking myself if he was really the GOAT coach or just a product of Brady.

BB - minus - TB = **** Lebeau (except without LeBeau's HOF playing career).

 

[TheRainMaker]

There was so much Our **** Don't Stink down there, especially after they finally ended the Lost Decade with #4... Anyone remember a report from a few years back that claimed someone in coaching/FO boasted that they could be given any top-half QB and turn him into a champion...?

I do remember recently that there was stuff coming out that the organization was starting to take the "Patriot Way" too far and believing that Tom could be replaced.

Josh McDaniels also has been accused by former players that he held a meeting in Denver right after he traded Cutler to tell them to not worry as he could take a High School QB (Cassel) and make him into a Pro Bowler.

 

[captain stone]

It’s pretty clear that at some point, Belichick became more about Team Bill than Team Patriots, and now more about Team Bill than Team UNC.

His own personal gripes and vendettas outweigh what is best for the team.

- Butler not playing in the SB
- Brady situation with the training
- Brady not extended
- souring relationship with ownership
- souring relationship with key players: Brady, Gronk, ‘Dola
- Saying he only wanted people/players around him he likes
- creating a small inner circle of family and sycophants
- Patricia/Judge coaching offense
- not talking to and coaching Mac Jones
- barring NFL scouts from UNC

- Looking at every coach available on the market and deciding his two sons are the best guys for the job
- Giving Lombardi's kids similar treatment
- (Allegedly) freezing out Mayo once he gets a contract saying he's the designated heir
- (Allegedly) wanting his son Steve to be named his heir on his UNC contract

All this after preaching team-first is the Patriot Way.

- Starting that ****ing clown Scam Newton in an abso-****ing-lutely utterly, less-than-meaningless final game of the 2020 season, thereby allowing that ****ing despicable ****-stain to break Steve Grogan's single-season record for rushing yards by a Pats' QB, because Jets & Papa Bear ahead of T-E-A-M...

 

[signbabybrady]

Weather delay in Charlotte

 

[h0c2000]

 

[signbabybrady]

51 yard bomb for Gio 7-0

 

[signbabybrady]

Still up but I don't think this is a very good team. College ball is a rough watch if it's not the playoffs. I think HS might be more fun just because you're at least in the stands.

 

[lancerman]

Still up but I don't think this is a very good team. College ball is a rough watch if it's not the playoffs. I think HS might be more fun just because you're at least in the stands.

College is all about which team is more talented. Huge skill differences between teams make up outcomes

 

[signbabybrady]

College is all about which team is more talented. Huge skill differences between teams make up outcomes

Unfortunately looks like UNC is closer to Charlotte than they probably should be.

 

[mnpatfan]

Once again, BB's UNC team can't tackle.

 

[Kdo5]

UNC actually in a tight game against Charlotte. If they lose UNC ought to fire Belichick. Can’t get a whole lot worse than that.

 

[PatsfanTN]

This is my first post, but my two cents are I will always lean towards Brady who was more responsible for the 6 SB rather than BB. Just look at BB record without TB it speaks for itself and had TB fell on his face and BB won a SB people would be saying BB proved it was him, but it didn't happen that way so it's 50-50. Brady is the GOAT at QB and the best player all time. Can you say that about BB no Joe Gibbs was the GOAT he won 3 SB with 3 different QB's none of them all time greats. I'm surprises Kraft isn't taking more heat in this debate he handcuffed BB with his low budget and he always had to go bargain shopping for his players and the draft he couldn't take the best players he drafted for needs because Kraft would not pay them. Remember it was the Patriots who made a deal with TB to sign Deion Branch and forced BB hand to trade him. Patriots held back BB more than TB so I see both sides.

Thanks Mike Lombardi. I’m surprised you have the time to post here.

 

[signbabybrady]

A little better to close the half. Red zone stop by our d, followed by a missed fg, then a TD drive (aided by personal foul).

I think Gio looks pretty good for a player who's not playing at the next level. I'm not sure about the talent around him. The backs seem ok. But I imagine Hampton was way better. The one wr who looked ok got hurt. The D seems better this week but obviously the competition has a lot to do with that.

 

[XLIX]

This is my first post, but my two cents are I will always lean towards Brady who was more responsible for the 6 SB rather than BB. Just look at BB record without TB it speaks for itself and had TB fell on his face and BB won a SB people would be saying BB proved it was him, but it didn't happen that way so it's 50-50. Brady is the GOAT at QB and the best player all time. Can you say that about BB no Joe Gibbs was the GOAT he won 3 SB with 3 different QB's none of them all time greats. I'm surprises Kraft isn't taking more heat in this debate he handcuffed BB with his low budget and he always had to go bargain shopping for his players and the draft he couldn't take the best players he drafted for needs because Kraft would not pay them.

That's stupid. If the Patriots have, say, pick 25 in the draft, that player gets the same amount of money no matter whom they pick.

Sure, 4 years later you have to pay more for good players than bad ones, but Bob Kraft never - NEVER - hamstrung Belichick in the draft because of money. The idea doesn't even make sense.