Tetairoa McMillan runs a 4.48-4.55 at Pro Day

[Drunken Cicerone]

Difference was tet was shut down in double coverage... by northern arizona

the jefferon/chase games im sure you cherry picked because of stats... hmmm... did you actually watch them?
im guessing not

vs vanderbilt... that was the jamarr chase 229 yd 4 td game
vs georgia southern, chase just wasn't targeted... he was open the whole game,,, joe brady just didnt ring up his number that much

so... back to Tet and his 2/11 performance vs northern arizona...

I chose those two because I only follow LSU in college and I knew both those guys had stinkers, and yes I watched the games.

As for Tet having a bad game, I don’t know I don’t watch the game, you also didn’t watch the game.

So your feelings on Tet are what? A game against a nobody team in September is a disqualifier ?

 

[lancerman]

You don't need to over draft a WR with warts and expect success. Im a firm believer in drafting the best talent as opposed to need.

I was not a fan of the Polk pick last year. At the position they were in with all the top teir WRs and OTs gone, I felt Cooper Dejean or Fiske were the best available talent.

The Pats forced the Polk pick and doubled dipped with Baker. They also drafted 2 Oline in rds 3 and 4.

How did reaching for need in last years draft solve our offensive woes?

Look if the FO views Tet, Campbell or another offensive player as an elite talent I'm all for it. I just dont see the elite talent personally

The problem with Polk wasn't drafting a pass catcher there. It was that they traded down with a better pass catcher right in their grasp. McConkey was the correct move at the time.

Tet isn't an overdraft anyways.

Graham is the only player firmly ahead of him and any of the others that could be drafted around there.

 

[Uptown]

While I like T-Mac & think he’ll be a nice player in the league, I have zero interest in him at #4. I personally want Hunter or Golden/Egbuka in the event of a trade down/back up into the first. Each of these 3 receivers are tailor-made for our offense; being that they can all create easy separation with great hands. Then after that, I have Higgins, Noel, Harris with maybe Bech & Royals in the later rounds. I have a feeling Houston will definitely be eyeing both Egbuka & Golden (both Texas guys & Egbuka actually played with Stroud at OSU).

 

[Pape]

I chose those two because I only follow LSU in college and I knew both those guys had stinkers, and yes I watched the games.

As for Tet having a bad game, I don’t know I don’t watch the game, you also didn’t watch the game.

So your feelings on Tet are what? A game against a nobody team in September is a disqualifier ?

that there is more than some truth to the idea that he has separation issues.

you watch lsu? then you should have known those games weren't "stinkers". thats some bad faith right there, smh.

 

[scott99]

This is hilarious. You claim the guy is special on film and yet you claim there was a lack of speed. All you guys do is vomit back up the media crap you listen to. No on dares to be intelligent and actually watch the film. If they had, speed would not have been an issue. The tape is fine. Teams don't care about media opinion. Today changed nothing. Teams already have Tet graded based on film, not a late workout. At the end of the day, Tet is the 2nd best WR in the draft. He is still not ahead of Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, or Thomas from last year. This is a weak WE draft. The Pats are not picking Tet at 4. Its just not happening. He will fall into 10-20 range just like he has all along.

I’ve never had a problem with McMillan as a prospect, I was always very high on him. I never pay attention to what media says about him. I’m one of the few that would take him at 4 if Hunter was gone.

That being said, you’d be hard pressed to find a scout who doesn’t mention the alleged lack of speed. All I care about is his incredible production the last 2 seasons with an average at best QB and dream about him having Maye as his QB. McMillan has incredible hands, and he Mosses guys on a regular. I’d be thrilled with him at 4 if we miss out on Hunter.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash - Zybek Sports

An objective study to measure the differences… Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado) An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small…

zybeksports.com

"From the data collected, it can be concluded that the delay between the hand start and the electronic start (when arranged by magnitude) is evenly distributed between 0.10 and 0.25 seconds. Therefore, based on
this experiment data (and only accounting for human error at the start not the finish line), the average hand-timed 40 yard run is 0.175 + .075 seconds “faster” than a fully electronic time"

 

[Love The Drake]

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I’ve never had a problem with McMillan as a prospect, I was always very high on him. I never pay attention to what media says about him. I’m one of the few that would take him at 4 if Hunter was gone.

That being said, you’d be hard pressed to find a scout who doesn’t mention the alleged lack of speed. All I care about is his incredible production the last 2 seasons with an average at best QB and dream about him having Maye as his QB. McMillan has incredible hands, and he Mosses guys on a regular. I’d be thrilled with him at 4 if we miss out on Hunter.

who’s the best corners he’s faced and how did he be perform against them?

 

[Patsgofor4]

Here's an interesting comparison:

Campbell was already falling in mock drafts because of the rumors about his arm length. Had he shown up and his arms measured above 34 then he'd probably be locked in at 4. He didn't but Tet seemingly answered his doubters today and now all they have to grasp to is laser vs hand times.

STOP with this garbage. Just because you wanted it to be true doesn't mean it is true. You are the one who is grasping. His 40 time today confirmed the suspicions that Tet has below average speed. The 4.48 time that was fed to Schultz was clearly an outlier and likely reflects propaganda by his agent. 4.53-4.57 hand timed is NOT fast. I know you don't want to face reality but the difference between a hand-timed 40 and a laser timed 40 is widely-accepted and is confirmed year after year when comparing players 40 times at the combine versus their pro days. Want more that anecdotal evidence?

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash - Zybek Sports

An objective study to measure the differences… Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado) An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small…

zybeksports.com

"From the data collected, it can be concluded that the delay between the hand start and the electronic start (when arranged by magnitude) is evenly distributed between 0.10 and 0.25 seconds. Therefore, based on this experiment data (and only accounting for human error at the start not the finish line), the average hand-timed 40 yard run is 0.175 + .075 seconds “faster” than a fully electronic time"

Can you grasp this reality?

 

[signbabybrady]

STOP with this garbage. Just because you wanted it to be true doesn't mean it is true. You are the one who is grasping. His 40 time today confirmed the suspicions that Tet has below average speed. The 4.48 time that was fed to Schultz was clearly an outlier and likely reflects propaganda by his agent. 4.53-4.57 hand timed is NOT fast. I know you don't want to face reality but the difference between a hand-timed 40 and a laser timed 40 is widely-accepted and is confirmed year after year when comparing players 40 times at the combine versus their pro days. Want more that anecdotal evidence?

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash - Zybek Sports

An objective study to measure the differences… Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado) An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small…

zybeksports.com

"From the data collected, it can be concluded that the delay between the hand start and the electronic start (when arranged by magnitude) is evenly distributed between 0.10 and 0.25 seconds. Therefore, based on this experiment data (and only accounting for human error at the start not the finish line), the average hand-timed 40 yard run is 0.175 + .075 seconds “faster” than a fully electronic time"

Can you grasp this reality?

We'll see but I think he greatly increased his chances of going top ten even top 5 today.

 

[Ross12]

My top 5 receiving options I’d draft

1. Hunter
2. Warren
3. Golden
4. McMillan
5. Egbuka

 

[Ray Ray 717]

STOP with this garbage. Just because you wanted it to be true doesn't mean it is true. You are the one who is grasping. His 40 time today confirmed the suspicions that Tet has below average speed. The 4.48 time that was fed to Schultz was clearly an outlier and likely reflects propaganda by his agent. 4.53-4.57 hand timed is NOT fast. I know you don't want to face reality but the difference between a hand-timed 40 and a laser timed 40 is widely-accepted and is confirmed year after year when comparing players 40 times at the combine versus their pro days. Want more that anecdotal evidence?

Hand-timed versus Electronic-timed 40 Yard Dash - Zybek Sports

An objective study to measure the differences… Michael Weinstein (Zybek Sports – Boulder, Colorado) An athlete’s physical performance test results provide an important specification that often determines their future. Small…

zybeksports.com

"From the data collected, it can be concluded that the delay between the hand start and the electronic start (when arranged by magnitude) is evenly distributed between 0.10 and 0.25 seconds. Therefore, based on this experiment data (and only accounting for human error at the start not the finish line), the average hand-timed 40 yard run is 0.175 + .075 seconds “faster” than a fully electronic time"

Can you grasp this reality?

He’s not the only one.

Also, 4.5 for a 6’5 220lb wide receiver is very good, it’s rare to find an athlete of his size with that type of speed.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

My top 5 receiving options I’d draft

1. Hunter
2. Warren
3. Golden
4. McMillan
5. Egbuka

Golden over McMillan. Yikes.

 

[imahobgoblin]

I’ve never had a problem with McMillan as a prospect, I was always very high on him. I never pay attention to what media says about him. I’m one of the few that would take him at 4 if Hunter was gone.

That being said, you’d be hard pressed to find a scout who doesn’t mention the alleged lack of speed. All I care about is his incredible production the last 2 seasons with an average at best QB and dream about him having Maye as his QB. McMillan has incredible hands, and he Mosses guys on a regular. I’d be thrilled with him at 4 if we miss out on Hunter.

If that is the case, as I have stated in other posts I can respect that. He didn't jump 16 spots because of his 40 time like the other fools claim.

Of course the media says he lacks speed. I have not seen scouts from teams say that. Thats the drama narrative. His tape is all that really matters. He is what is on tape and not what 1 workout says. People don't understand that having a quicker 40 time is not about getting faster in a game. Its about training technique of getting out of the blocks and transitioning into the run. Its not about football and those techniques are not used in football. The fools jumping Golden up the ladder have never seen him play. They just see his forty time. Forget that he was inconsistent and had only two great games in his career. He still never broke 1000 yards. Tet has potential, but this is a weak draft. He is lower than every first round WR taken last year. He will go between 10-20.

 

[scott99]

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who’s the best corners he’s faced and how did he be perform against them?

Don’t care. He’s been extremely productive with a bad QB.

 

[signbabybrady]

Golden over McMillan. Yikes.

I know right. The guys smaller than Ty Thornton and has less than half the college production than McMillan has over the last 2 years.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

I know right. The guys smaller than Ty Thornton and has less than half the college production than McMillan has over the last 2 years.

it’s preposterous

 

[ahmed]

Why does somebody with his size and speed have a max of 10 TDs? Does he look fast on the field? How is his route running?

Most importantly, does he get separation or does he get his catches by winning contested balls? If latter, no thanks.

 

[Ray Ray 717]

Why does somebody with his size and speed have a max of 10 TDs? Does he look fast on the field? How is his route running?

Most importantly, does he get separation or does he get his catches by winning contested balls? If latter, no thanks.

He had a 5’8 quarterback throwing him the football and he was double covered every single game because the rest of his wide receivers suck.

He looks fast enough at his height and weight, his YAC ability is very very good, he’s agile athletic and can break tackles.

He displays advanced route-running prowess with diverse tree, particularly excelling on whip routes, crossers, and in-cuts across the middle. McMillan's route tree sophistication and ability to create separation through technique suggest a high floor as he transitions to the pro game.

• His hands are insane. First of all they are huge mitts that catch anything. More importantly he possesses natural hands and an expansive catch radius, making him a reliable target at all three levels of the field. He’s 3” taller than Harry and far better in every faucet, let’s not ever compare him to Harry. T-Mac is very versatile, he can separate catch the ball and run after catch, but he can also high point the ball as well as anyone in the past decade

 

[Ray Ray 717]

McMillan is an inviting target no matter where the offense is situated.

McMillan’s route-running has been impressive for a player of his size. There’s no lumbering or difficulty in breaking down on a comeback route. He showcases fluidity and sharpness in his cuts, enabling him to separate from defenders on intermediate and deep routes.

His understanding of timing and positioning allows him to get open on a variety of route concepts from slants to fades to posts and beyond. He shows strong awareness and balance when making adjustments mid-route to accommodate off-target throws, making him a reliable target.

He consistently shows the ability to gain separation on deep routes, and his ability to track passes over long distances speaks to his acceleration. His long stride gives him an advantage over smaller, quicker DB’s, and he keeps his footing on cuts and after the catch due to owning more than adequate balance. The California product may lack elite speed, but his quickness in short spaces allows for quick separation off the line, and his extra-large reach makes up for an extra tick or two on the stopwatch.

Patriots Scouting Report: Arizona WR Tetairoa McMillan

The New England Patriots need help at receiver, and Tetairoa McMillan is considered the best available in the NFL Draft outside of a unique two-way phenom named

www.si.com

 

[TommyD4207]

This is more in line with his tape.