Stephon Gilmore vs Chandler Jones?

[PatsBoy12]

Some mediots have already been given Gilmore the nod in their season awards, usually that's an indication of how the vote will go. Plus there are a handful of instances where sack leaders haven't got it

Justin Houston had 22 sacks in 2014 but Watt won it

Robert Mathis had 19.5 in 2013 but Luke Kuchehly won it

Jared Allen had 22 in 2011 but sh!thead suggs won it

Demarcus Ware had 20 in 2008 but James Harrison won


Strahan didn't win in '01 just because of the sack record. He won because he had 22.5 sacks and 24 tackles for a loss. Guy was great rushing the passer and stopping the run.

Jones this year has 10 TFL.

Hell Jones had a better all round year in 2017 with 17 sacks (lead the league) and 28 TFL (lead the league) yet Aaron Donald won DPOY

Very informative post. Thanks, JM.

 

[JayNM]

Impressive indeed, but he was asked to do a lot more during his tenure here so it’s almost a guarantee that he wouldn’t have achieved this amount of production in NE.

Yeah, but he even here he would still rack up 10+ sacks

But the thing is, we got way more aggressive after Matt P left... Last season and this season we are much more downhill, blitz way more and even put all players standing on the DLine sometimes, which is something he's been doing there.

C. Jones would be getting nearly 15 sacks a season.

 

[italian pat patriot]

why one against the other ?

 

[jah]

What a braindead article for an NFL.com writer to get paid for.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Only a 2nd for Jones huh?

Remember posters claiming Flowers was better than this guy? Lol.

Can’t believe Flowers make so much more than Cameron Jordan, Jones, Danielle Hunter to name a few who are way better than him.

 

[luuked]

Remember posters claiming Flowers was better than this guy? Lol.

Flowers' pressure and sacks translated to championships. Flowers had more key plays in the SB against Atlanta than Jones in his entire tenure here.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Flowers' pressure and sacks translated to championships. Flowers had more key plays in the SB against Atlanta than Jones in his entire tenure here.

I can't think of a single big play Jones made in a big game.

 

[Froob]

I can't think of a single big play Jones made in a big game.

September at home vs the Bills and Dolphins he was unstoppable.

I think he did get a sack in the Seahawks SB, but that's it.

 

[PatsBoy12]

September at home vs the Bills and Dolphins he was unstoppable.

I think he did get a sack in the Seahawks SB, but that's it.

He did get a sack in the SEA SB, but that was pressure from Ninko that forced Wilson right into Jones' waiting arms.

 

[luuked]

I can't think of a single big play Jones made in a big game.

He got a turnover against the Chiefs at home in the 2015 playoffs. Right after his second most known postseason moment which was walking fully baked and half naked into a police station.

A big week for him.

 

[PatsBoy12]

He got a turnover against the Chiefs at home in the 2015 playoffs. Right after his second most known postseason moment which was walking fully baked and half naked into a police station.

A big week for him.

I forgot that that situation happened during the playoff run. LOL

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Only a 2nd for Jones huh?

Remember posters claiming Flowers was better than this guy? Lol.

Can’t believe Flowers make so much more than Cameron Jordan, Jones, Danielle Hunter to name a few who are way better than him.

Why are we trashing flowers? He did a lot of good things in his time here, good for him for cashing in.

 

[Wordsmyth]

Waiting for Dikembe to chime in regarding Chandelier Jones...

 

[RobertWeathers]

Why are we trashing flowers? He did a lot of good things in his time here, good for him for cashing in.

...and hes put up pretty similar numbers in DET this year with 100 less defensive snaps.

Overpaid? Yep but production is the same.

 

[jah]

Only a 2nd for Jones huh?

Remember posters claiming Flowers was better than this guy? Lol.

Can’t believe Flowers make so much more than Cameron Jordan, Jones, Danielle Hunter to name a few who are way better than him.

Flowers on the Patriots > Jones on the Patriots and it's not even close.

 

[IllegalContact]

Who cares

 

[jah]

Why are we trashing flowers? He did a lot of good things in his time here, good for him for cashing in.

Because some people really obsess over shiny sack totals instead of making the defense better.

 

[jimnance]

Wasn’t there a time we were trying to figure out who between HT, Collins and Jones they would keep? Cool that they have two of them now plus Gilmore.

High has been the best of those 3. By far.

 

[jimnance]

Would be nice, but Thuney and Mitchell did help win Super Bowls.

Thuney is developing into one of the better guards in the league. He may well have a better career than cjones.