Statistical Similarities Between 2004/2016 Patriots

[patsinthesnow]

2016 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

389.9 yards per game (4th)
26.1 points per game (4th)

272.9 passing yards per game (4th)
117.0 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

336.0 yards per game (10th)
16.6 points per game (1st)

248.1 passing yards per game (17th)
87.9 rushing yards per game (4th)
87.5 opposing passer rating (15th)
37.2 third down pct. (7th)
32 sacks (T-12th)

2004 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

357.6 yards per game (7th)
27.3 points per game (4th)

224.3 passing yards per game (11th)
133.4 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

310.8 yards per game (9th)
16.3 points per game (2nd)

212.5 passing yards per game (17th)
98.3 rushing yards per game (6th)
75.3 opposing passer rating (7th)
38.8 third down pct. (21st)
45 sacks (T-3rd)

Very similar teams in terms of a balanced offense and a stout defense vs. the run/pass.

 

[aluminum seats]

Those are really very similar. Nice comp to have.

 

[RobertWeathers]

2016 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

389.9 yards per game (4th)
26.1 points per game (4th)

272.9 passing yards per game (4th)
117.0 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

336.0 yards per game (10th)
16.6 points per game (1st)

248.1 passing yards per game (17th)
87.9 rushing yards per game (4th)
87.5 opposing passer rating (15th)
37.2 third down pct. (4th)
32 sacks (T-12th)

2004 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

357.6 yards per game (7th)
27.3 points per game (4th)

224.3 passing yards per game (11th)
133.4 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

310.8 yards per game (9th)
16.3 points per game (2nd)

212.5 passing yards per game (17th)
98.3 rushing yards per game (6th)
75.3 opposing passer rating (7th)
38.8 third down pct. (21st)
45 sacks (T-3rd)

Very similar teams in terms of a balanced offense and a stout defense vs. the run/pass.

Good research. Interesting.

The similarities stop there.

The 04 team would have owned the 2016 squad. They most likely win 7 or 8 out of 10.

 

[mosslost]

2016 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

389.9 yards per game (4th)
26.1 points per game (4th)

272.9 passing yards per game (4th)
117.0 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

336.0 yards per game (10th)
16.6 points per game (1st)

248.1 passing yards per game (17th)
87.9 rushing yards per game (4th)
87.5 opposing passer rating (15th)
37.2 third down pct. (4th)
32 sacks (T-12th)

2004 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

357.6 yards per game (7th)
27.3 points per game (4th)

224.3 passing yards per game (11th)
133.4 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

310.8 yards per game (9th)
16.3 points per game (2nd)

212.5 passing yards per game (17th)
98.3 rushing yards per game (6th)
75.3 opposing passer rating (7th)
38.8 third down pct. (21st)
45 sacks (T-3rd)

Very similar teams in terms of a balanced offense and a stout defense vs. the run/pass.

both likely 14-2 as well.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Good research. Interesting.

The similarities stop there.

The 04 team would have owned the 2016 squad. They most likely win 7 or 8 out of 10.

Would have loved to see a Healthy Gronk (and Harrison) matched up against each other.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Would have loved to see a Healthy Gronk (and Harrison) matched up against each other.

WWIII but a war Rodney would have a tough time winning.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Would have loved to see a Healthy Gronk (and Harrison) matched up against each other.

With the way Rodney brought the wood in practice, it would have been interesting.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

2016 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

389.9 yards per game (4th)
26.1 points per game (4th)

272.9 passing yards per game (4th)
117.0 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

336.0 yards per game (10th)
16.6 points per game (1st)

248.1 passing yards per game (17th)
87.9 rushing yards per game (4th)
87.5 opposing passer rating (15th)
37.2 third down pct. (4th)
32 sacks (T-12th)

2004 Patriots

Offense Team Stats

357.6 yards per game (7th)
27.3 points per game (4th)

224.3 passing yards per game (11th)
133.4 rushing yards per game (7th)

Defense Team Stats

310.8 yards per game (9th)
16.3 points per game (2nd)

212.5 passing yards per game (17th)
98.3 rushing yards per game (6th)
75.3 opposing passer rating (7th)
38.8 third down pct. (21st)
45 sacks (T-3rd)

Very similar teams in terms of a balanced offense and a stout defense vs. the run/pass.

. Thanks for compiling.
Check out defensive 3rd downs!
2004 38.8% good for 21st in the league omg
2016. 37.2% good for 4th in the league. What the hell?

 

[oldrover]

Would have loved to see a Healthy Gronk (and Harrison) matched up against each other.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

. Thanks for compiling.
Check out defensive 3rd downs!
2004 38.8% good for 21st in the league omg
2016. 37.2% good for 4th in the league. What the hell?

This is exactly why I tell people that they can't expect a defense like they've grown up watching. Rules have changed. The NFL is an offensive game now (hah; in more ways than one -- thanks Goodell). For the era the current Patriots defense plays in, they are VERY good.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Would Pollard be Kryptonite? Pollardite?

 

[farn]

Loved that 04 team. Personally think it was the best one - going back to back & 3/4 takes major strength. Mentally & physically an excellent team.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Good research. Interesting.

The similarities stop there.

The 04 team would have owned the 2016 squad. They most likely win 7 or 8 out of 10.

Dang, that game would be fun.

Edelman vs. Troy Brown would be a problem for tbe 2004 team.

Marcus Cannon vs Willie/Vrabel/Seymour at times would be a key matchup

Andrews vs. Wilfork would be a big problem for the 2016 team.

I trust Butler/Ryan vs. Branch/Givens

Not sure how our current DL would hold up over the course of a game vs. Dillon
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I think it'd be a close game until Dillon wore the 2016 team out if the 2004 team had a lead in the 4th.

 

[ausbacker]

Hopefully the similarities don't just end with the statistics.

 

[oldrover]

Would Pollard be Kryptonite? Pollardite?

I would love for 2016 to be the year the Patriots defeat all their Kryptonites.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Dang, that game would be fun.

Edelman vs. Troy Brown would be a problem for tbe 2004 team.

Marcus Cannon vs Willie/Vrabel/Seymour at times would be a key matchup

Andrews vs. Wilfork would be a big problem for the 2016 team.

I trust Butler/Ryan vs. Branch/Givens

Not sure how our current DL would hold up over the course of a game vs. Dillon
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I think it'd be a close game until Dillon wore the 2016 team out if the 2004 team had a lead in the 4th.

Right and you had major talent on IR in Gronk and Ty Law and Ty Poole.

 

[pheenix11]

Is Brady better now than he was in 2004? Obviously he has reached his peak simply because of his age but I would say probably yes. Hell he might even be faster now LOL.

 

[NormZauchin]

Good research. Interesting.

The similarities stop there.

The 04 team would have owned the 2016 squad. They most likely win 7 or 8 out of 10.

Brady is a much more accomplished QB now. I doubt that this version of TB would be owned by anyone.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Dang, that game would be fun.

Edelman vs. Troy Brown would be a problem for tbe 2004 team.

Marcus Cannon vs Willie/Vrabel/Seymour at times would be a key matchup

Andrews vs. Wilfork would be a big problem for the 2016 team.

I trust Butler/Ryan vs. Branch/Givens

Not sure how our current DL would hold up over the course of a game vs. Dillon
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I think it'd be a close game until Dillon wore the 2016 team out if the 2004 team had a lead in the 4th.

Brady would be exhausted, playing every snap, changing jerseys....
Then you have Patricia vs. Weiss, Romeo vs McDaniels....

 

[borg]

Stats are very similar but let me add a lopsided stat that overwhelmingly favors 2004.
Defensive turnovers:

2004.....36 (20 INTs)
2016......17 (9 INTs)

I rank '04 as NE's most dominant team ever because of their balance, their ability to turn turnovers into points, and a rushing attack that imposed their will on their opponents....especially in the 4th quarter. And despite the 16-0 regular season campaign in 2007, I viewed the 2004 team as the far superior team because of the quality of the total package.

If BB can add quality pieces this off season to deepen this roster....and NE's defense continues to improve now that the core has been established, next year could rival '04. A Jimmy G sale could definitely bolster the ranks with a prime piece or two to push this team forward. In the mean time, this team is still 12-2. How lucky are we?