So It's a Safety You Want?

[DaBruinz]

I got P-Will going to Buffalo. If I was in there draft room on draft day, Willis is the guy. They lose London Fletcher Baker to Washington, and then had to release Takeo Spikes, they have no one who can play the MIKE position.

I feel there is enough talent at DB, and RB to draft in the later rounds, but it is hard to pass on a guy that to me, reminds me of Ray Lewis without the character issues, based on his play. I mean when Ray Lewis was dominant. I see P-Will as going to be one of the most dominant LBs the game has had.

Spikes hasn't been released yet.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Thanks, good read. I've been liking all those Yahoo profiles.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be happy if the Pats picked not only one of those players, but two in the first round. .

W-H-Y ????????? and two? Why ??????

 

[Krugman]

We'll end up taking a TE anyway.......

 

[Remix 6]

Another tidbit I noticed reading this article is that these top rated safeties hardly played last year. It says that Nelson didn't play against Ohio State, I thought he did play. Does anybody remember whether he played or not. I remember Nelson's name being called out many times.

he played. i remember him getting outrun by Ginn on the opening KR lol but his name wasnt mentioned a lot..in a good way though..the front 7 dominated

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Here's my challenge to the Pat's FO - find a 'player' in the fourth round as good as Kerry Rhodes, that way we can chill on the urge to overpay or overdraft a safety. They did it with Samuel, let's do it again!

 

[DaBruinz]

Here's my challenge to the Pat's FO - find a 'player' in the fourth round as good as Kerry Rhodes, that way we can chill on the urge to overpay or overdraft a safety. They did it with Samuel, let's do it again!

Honestly? I believe that Sabby Piscatelli or John Wendling would fit that description.

 

[TealSox]

There is my John Wendling sighting... I think the Pats shouldn't reach for any of those safeties and look for value later in the draft. Outside of LaRon, I'm not impressed with Nelson, Meriweather or Griffin.

As far as ILB is concerned, at the very least the Pats should ask Seau if he wants to come back (if healthy). A young stud at ILB is the best situation, but a guy like Willis isn't going to be there. Agreed. I think Buffalo takes a hard look at him. Carolina would be interested (IMO) if they could move down to get him. Dan Morgan is wearing thin, his health is always an issue and they let Witherspoon go last year in Free Agency.

I hear names like Siler or Beason.... don't know anything about either.

 

[mcsully]

ILB?? Didn't we just sign a versatile LB to play outside and inside.. He's 270 pounds..

 

[DaBruinz]

ILB?? Didn't we just sign a versatile LB to play outside and inside.. He's 270 pounds..

There is such a thing as DEPTH and developing youngsters.

Currently the Pats DEPTH consists of Eric Alexander, Corey Mays and Pierre Woods. If one of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, or Thomas were to go down, the Pats would be SCREWED.

That is why a talented LB like DeOssie or Stewart would be valuable. Because they project as having the ability to play BOTH.

 

[Remix 6]

There is such a thing as DEPTH and developing youngsters.

Currently the Pats DEPTH consists of Stephen Alexander, Corey Mays and Pierre Woods. If one of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, or Thomas were to go down, the Pats would be SCREWED.

That is why a talented LB like DeOssie or Stewart would be valuable. Because they project as having the ability to play BOTH.

Eric Alexander thank you VERY much

 

[DaBruinz]

Eric Alexander thank you VERY much

Here's your gold star for being such a good doobie. Now go do some work and bring something productive to the thread

 

[mcsully]

There is such a thing as DEPTH and developing youngsters.

Currently the Pats DEPTH consists of Eric Alexander, Corey Mays and Pierre Woods. If one of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, or Thomas were to go down, the Pats would be SCREWED.

That is why a talented LB like DeOssie or Stewart would be valuable. Because they project as having the ability to play BOTH.

DEPTH, as you boldly said, is not what I was saying at all.. I agree having depth is a great thing but not at the cost of a 1st round pick..
Isn't the argument here about taking a LB with the 1st pick.. The chances are more likely they are going to take a LB or DE/OLB on day 2.. not day 1...

So your DEPTH issue is moot. 1st round picks should look to contribute and help the pats today and tomorrow. not for DEPTH..ahhahah..

 

[mcsully]

Here's your gold star for being such a good doobie. Now go do some work and bring something productive to the thread

well

 

[mgteich]

We will not go into the draft without veteran depth at LB, likely two of Seau, Hatwell and Gardner. So, we won't be screwed. You seem to think that DeOssie or Stewart would contribute more this year than Alexander and Woods. I doubt it.

That does mean we shouldn't pick one of them. My preference is Poz (think of him with 10 pounds added). I think he would contribute as would Willis, Harris or Siler. It is indeed a good year for linebackers who might fit our system. This is a very unusual situation.

There is such a thing as DEPTH and developing youngsters.

Currently the Pats DEPTH consists of Eric Alexander, Corey Mays and Pierre Woods. If one of Vrabel, Bruschi, Colvin, or Thomas were to go down, the Pats would be SCREWED.

That is why a talented LB like DeOssie or Stewart would be valuable. Because they project as having the ability to play BOTH.

 

[patsfaninpa]

I don't think it's imperative we draft a specific position in each round. We can't go wrong with any of the following positions; ILB,S,CB,OLB.

ILB - Obviously, age factoring in. I sense that Vrabel is moved inside permanently with the AD signing. Bruschi near end of the road. So, youth
is needed.

S - Rodney nearing the end of the road. E.Wilson injury/performance problems the last 2 yrs. I think this is a position of need. But, there are some good prospects who won't be takken in round 1. Dabruinz mentioned Piscatelli and Wendling. We don't know what Pats think of Rouse,Weddie or a guy like Gattis from Wake Forest. Might be a position we can fill later instead of at the top of the draft.

CB - Less of a need if we sign A.Samuel to a long-term pact. But, if we don't. Do you blame BB for drafting one early? Can always use an extra db in nickel situations too. Almost, a full-time starter the way the game is played these days. Spread formations on 3rd and 2!

OLB - I don't think so. But, hear me out. If Vrabel moves inside. Lessens the need there. Maybe, BB likes vets inside and wants an edge pass-rusher to get after the qb. Rosie not getting any younger either. Say, we like A.Spencer as that edge pass-rusher. How is this defense on 3rd and long?

DL - Spencer Warren Seymour Colvin
LB - A.Thomas and M. Vrabel
DB - Samuel Wilson Harrison Hobbs
Nickel guy my other 1st rounder.


We can't go wrong anywhere we go. If, we get a good player. My scenario. Trade up for R.Nelson. Use our 3. Trade down from 28 and get
a two and a three. D.Harris in Round 2. Would like to take a cb or olb in Round 3 then. S.Bradley - Nebraska maybe. How far does D.Hughes drop from Cal - cb? Then, i'd like a 3-4 end in round 4 and a cb or lb with supp. 4.
Defense. Defense. Defense.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

We will not go into the draft without veteran depth at LB, likely two of Seau, Hatwell and Gardner. So, we won't be screwed. You seem to think that DeOssie or Stewart would contribute more this year than Alexander and Woods. I doubt it.

That does mean we shouldn't pick one of them. My preference is Poz (think of him with 10 pounds added). I think he would contribute as would Willis, Harris or Siler. It is indeed a good year for linebackers who might fit our system. This is a very unusual situation.

I could see Stewart participating in passing situations and Special Teams as a rookie, DeOssie's speed would be good for Special Teams.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Honestly? I believe that Sabby Piscatelli or John Wendling would fit that description.

So do I !!

 

[sebman2112]

So do I !!

I like Wendling, but I'm unsure about Sabby

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Honestly? I believe that Sabby Piscatelli or John Wendling would fit that description.

Sssh, the other teams may be listening. He's been on my radar since the combine, I said very quietly.

 

[DaBruinz]

DEPTH, as you boldly said, is not what I was saying at all.. I agree having depth is a great thing but not at the cost of a 1st round pick..
Isn't the argument here about taking a LB with the 1st pick.. The chances are more likely they are going to take a LB or DE/OLB on day 2.. not day 1...

So your DEPTH issue is moot. 1st round picks should look to contribute and help the pats today and tomorrow. not for DEPTH..ahhahah..

Damn, you are ignorant aren't you. You use the 1st round pick to add the DEPTH now so that they can GROW into the starting position. When Bruschi retires. So that they don't have the PRESSURE have having to be a starter from day one. They can come in learn with the intent of being the starter in the future.

The Depth issue ISN'T MOOT. Its HUGE. 1 injury and they are looking at some very mediocre talent on the field. At least with the 1st rounder not under immediate pressure from day 1, they have the chance to learn the position without it being Trial by fire.