Should Denver's game winning TD have been counted ?

[MaineMan]

I've seen way, way worse many times - with the OL from the Center to the OTs looking like a flock of geese.

With this one, the whole line appears to be skewed slightly back starting from the RT. Drawing a stright line from there through the helmets, the guy on the far left isn't far back from that.

OTOH, any decent marching band director would be apoplectic if the sousaphones lined up that poorly.

 

[PatriotSeven]

Oh wow, seriously? This is the saddest attempt at stirring controversy yet. For anyone watching that game, and the other types of missed calls, these writers should be ashamed for even bringing this up.

Especially when you consider some of the calls like the backwards pass that went Pittsburgh's way which would have otherwise sealed the victory for Denver in OT. Or the missed face mask penalties on Tebow.

What is the point of this now? If you wanna get technical all the players in that line-up are not actually lined up perfectly on the line of scrimmage. They are all a few inches off. If it's not easily identifiable during the game, and you need a high definition image or replay to spot it, then when it comes to illegal formations, it's not a freaking penalty.

The only way you're going to get this rule perfectly enforced and called right is by putting a robot out there and chips and lights in players shoes that change color when on the line of scrimmage. If they can't get the blatantly obvious calls right all the time, people are really expecting magic from the refs out there with this one.

 

[ShaneFalco]

the formation looks legal.

 

[goheels22002]

The player in the little red box is exactly 3.16 feet behind the line of scrimmage, just beyond the allowed distance. Another sign from you know who.....

 

[BradyFTW!]

Oh wow, seriously? This is the saddest attempt at stirring controversy yet. For anyone watching that game, and the other types of missed calls, these writers should be ashamed for even bringing this up.

Especially when you consider some of the calls like the backwards pass that went Pittsburgh's way which would have otherwise sealed the victory for Denver in OT. Or the missed face mask penalties on Tebow.

What is the point of this now? If you wanna get technical all the players in that line-up are not actually lined up perfectly on the line of scrimmage. They are all a few inches off. If it's not easily identifiable during the game, and you need a high definition image or replay to spot it, then when it comes to illegal formations, it's not a freaking penalty.

The only way you're going to get this rule perfectly enforced and called right is by putting a robot out there and chips and lights in players shoes that change color when on the line of scrimmage. If they can't get the blatantly obvious calls right all the time, people are really expecting magic from the refs out there with this one.

Nah, the Josh McDaniels "controversy" is sadder.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

If your head is at least up to the shoulders of the guy next to you, it never is called.

If your head is only even with the butt of the guy next to you, they call it every time.

 

[PatriotSeven]

Nah, the Josh McDaniels "controversy" is sadder.

That too. Luckily I don't see Pats fans or Broncos fans going along with this mess. Fans are beginning to see through the media's little game and smarting up. They just seem to always want to smudge someone.

 

[BingoBrown]

Illegal or not if the refs threw a flag at that play,they would of needed security to get out of there.

 

[ayjackson]

Had they been calling offensive holding in that game they'd still be playing... It was blatent, too. Almost comical on some of the replays...

Don't know how they'd still be playing, but you're right the holding was pretty comical at times, especially against Dumervil and Miller.

 

[xmarkd400x]

I believe it was a legal formation.

Most of you are noting that the rule says "everyone not on the LOS must be at least one yard behind it". That rule says nothing about where people on the LOS must line up. Therefore, you cannot make the argument (based on the rules) that a player lining up more than one yard off the ball is off the line of scrimmage.

I think the way it works is that after the center, each lineman/TE may line up so that their head is near the waist line of the player inside of them. That means that the C gets set, the G lines up with his head at the waist line of the C, and so on. By the time you get to the Tackle/TE, you can be quite a bit off of the actual LOS, and still be lined up correctly.

Lastly, if the defense can correctly identify who is and is not on the LOS, it's a non issue. I'd say that pragmatically, everyone on this board could identify the 7 players on the LOS and the 4 that are not.

 

[UK_Pat37]

Has Mike Pereira EVER said someone got a call wrong? EVER? He always finds a way to say it was the right call even if everyone else can see it was plainly the wrong call.

PS - I thought our local media were the only ones to crap on the local teams after a great win!

Yes, he has. Do you follow him on twitter?

As for this formation; you see it all the time. A lot of Centers tend to be a little further forward than the rest of the line...whilst the TE's head is a little off of the rest of the O Line, it's nit picking.

Wish people would stop moaning about the officiating in this game. Sheesh. Lets all forget a dropped pass, dropped INT, missed tackles on a few occasions and a couple of poor throws by Tebow which kind of killed themselves quite a lot. Not to mention the fumble on the drive which should have iced the game!

 

[Armchair Bronco]

The officiating was actually VERY bad in this game, and most of the bad calls and non-calls benefited the Steelers.

Now, I've lived in Seattle since 1987, so we have a thang for crappy officiating. That whole "instant replay" thing...remember where that came from? Remember the non-touchdown touchdown by Vinny that torpedoed Seattle's season way-back-when? And remember the phanton push-offs and phantom holds in the Seattle-Pittsburgh Super Bowl game?

Last Sunday's Broncos-Steelers game was no different: the refs conveniently blew and "inadvertent whistle" and a very inopportune time. And they were blind to *several* in-your-face facemasks against Tebow (all of them of the 15-yard variety).

The NFL has already weighed in that the formation on the first play of OT was legal, so that's good enough for me.

 

[IllegalContact]

broncos game winning play should have been called back

Was Tim Tebow

only 6 guys on th eline of scrimmage

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Re: broncos game winning play should have been called back

Was Tim Tebow

only 6 guys on th eline of scrimmage

Already been discussed to death, search for thread

 

[TheGodInAGreyHoodie]

Re: broncos game winning play should have been called back

Yes, but there was like 9 other plays that went the other way that more than makes up for it.

 

[coolguy]

Re: broncos game winning play should have been called back

and jordan pushed off on his game winning shot against utah.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: broncos game winning play should have been called back

Yes, but there was like 9 other plays that went the other way that more than makes up for it.

The blown lateral call is more than enough to make up for it.