Samuel

[Brady to Brown]

Is due $8 million in 2007.

If no long term deal can be worked out Samuel will be moved. This will free up the 8 million due to him and will add draft picks in any deal made.

Perhaps Belichick already knows Samuel is going. Helps explain all of the $ being spent and the 2nd for Welker.

Any possibility this is the case?

 

[kas]

For whatever the reason, BB/Pioli don't like spending a lot on DB's and prefer to use early draft picks and cheaper players. I guess this is because they mostly play complex zones with help for their corners, and when they do play man it is usually a softer man with a heavy blitz by the front seven, where the DB's are taught to keep the play in front of them (remember bend-but-don't-break philosophy).

That being said, I would love to sign Samuel long term. He's a great player and is reliable. However, I just don't think the Pats will see the value in an 8 mil a year corner when they beleive a 1st/2nd round pick can do 85% as good a job for a fraction of the cost.

 

[patsfaninpa]

Is due $8 million in 2007.

If no long term deal can be worked out Samuel will be moved. This will free up the 8 million due to him and will add draft picks in any deal made.

Perhaps Belichick already knows Samuel is going. Helps explain all of the $ being spent and the 2nd for Welker.

Any possibility this is the case?

No. We were around 26mil under the cap. Even Asante's 8m allows for money to be spent elsewhere.

 

[cstjohn17]

Is due $8 million in 2007.

If no long term deal can be worked out Samuel will be moved. This will free up the 8 million due to him and will add draft picks in any deal made.

Perhaps Belichick already knows Samuel is going. Helps explain all of the $ being spent and the 2nd for Welker.

Any possibility this is the case?

Maybe but as of right now they need him and $8 M is a managable number. I think they continue to work on a contract, if an agreement can't be reached he plays under the Tag (maybe reluctantly) and then the process starts over again in 2008.

I will be naive and say that a long-term deal will be worked out. The risk of a bad season, an injury and the commitment the Patriots have made to staying among the league's elite (1) are enough for Samuel to take $10-14 M guaranteed.

(1) This is a stretch, but I am feeling a little silly. Thomas is really the exception, most players want money, money, money. Especially someone like Samuel who has made next to nothing up to this point.

 

[Jimke]

If Samuel gets a long term deal, his salary cap hit for 2007 will

go down quite a bit from 8 mil the first year of the contract.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

They will pay it if they choose to, but they could just as easily choose not to. Not for purely financial reasons though - we are $14.5M under the cap less the Evans and Morris deals, which should count no more than a million or two at most apiece, with Asante and AD already factored in. If he goes it will be because as kas says BB doesn't believe we need an $8M CB in this system, let alone one overvalued at that price.

 

[Brady to Brown]

They will pay it if they choose to, but they could just as easily choose not to. Not for purely financial reasons though - we are $14.5M under the cap less the Evans and Morris deals, which should count no more than a million or two at most apiece, with Asante and AD already factored in. If he goes it will be because as kas says BB doesn't believe we need an $8M CB in this system, let alone one overvalued at that price.

Which would help explain all the money being spent and the 2nd round pick being offered for Welker. The Patriots could work out a long term deal, but not if Samuel is crying like a baby.

 

[bakes781]

Is due $8 million in 2007.

If no long term deal can be worked out Samuel will be moved. This will free up the 8 million due to him and will add draft picks in any deal made.

Perhaps Belichick already knows Samuel is going. Helps explain all of the $ being spent and the 2nd for Welker.

Any possibility this is the case?

Once you tag a player doesn't that mean if a team wants to trade for him they have to give up two 1st round picks? If that's true then we can rule out that possibility right now.