PATRIOTS NEWS Ryan Cowden to join front office

[Steve102]

 

[Zuma]

Bye Groh

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bye Groh

50/50 Wolf is around all of 2025.

 

[Wozzy]

Great… nothing better than a big sprawling clusterfck of collaboration when it comes to personnel, that way we won’t know who to blame when it crashes down on our heads.

 

[maust]

To the surprise of... absolutely no one

 

[Family]

Great… nothing better than a big sprawling clusterfck of collaboration when it comes to personnel, that way we won’t know who to blame when it crashes down on our heads.

It will all be on Vrabel and his people.

This will be the modern day version of complete control.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Great… nothing better than a big sprawling clusterfck of collaboration when it comes to personnel, that way we won’t know who to blame when it crashes down on our heads.

Sure you will.....It's Vrabel.

Things will get sorted out shortly.

 

[lancerman]

I'll give him a chance, but the Giants are one of the few teams who can claim to have less talent than us

 

[bakes781]

I just mentioned this on another thread but the Giants just had a heck of draft.

https://www.giants.com/news/dane-brugler-the-athletic-2024-nfl-all-rookie-team-malik-nabers-tyler-nubin-dru-phillips-tyrone-tracy

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[Brandon_Cox]

Bert has it totally backwards. He won't be the de facto No. 2 to Eliot Wolf; he'll be the de jure No. 2. He'll be the de facto GM

 

[RobertWeathers]

Bert has it totally backwards. He won't be the de facto No. 2 to Eliot Wolf; he'll be the de jure No. 2. He'll be the de facto GM

****in Breer....bonehead.

 

[Steve102]

Great… nothing better than a big sprawling clusterfck of collaboration when it comes to personnel, that way we won’t know who to blame when it crashes down on our heads.

Bro. Why is everyone in such dammed hurry to say this is a cluster eff? Vrabel was named HC today, and the first thing he does is bring in HIS front office guy that he wanted in Tennessee. To @RobertWeathers point, Vrabel is in charge now.

Do we have to have it spelled out on gory detail?

 

[jimnance]

Bert has it totally backwards. He won't be the de facto No. 2 to Eliot Wolf; he'll be the de jure No. 2. He'll be the de facto GM

Yes, there is no way in hell Wolf is GM, Vrabels boss or in charge of any personnel decisions. He should be fired.
If he wants to stay as a gofer ok.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Bro. Why is everyone in such dammed hurry to say this is a cluster eff? Vrabel was named HC today, and the first thing he does is bring in HIS front office guy that he wanted in Tennessee. To @RobertWeathers point, Vrabel is in charge now.

Do we have to have it spelled out on gory detail?

This is Boston fans. If it’s not spelled out in blood and cracked teeth, you’re doing it wrong.

 

[condon84]

Wolf still being the #1 player personnel guy is nuts to me. What did he say to convince Kraft he's qualified for the job? How many trips did he take with Kraft to Israel?

 

[Zuma]

I don't care if Mayo has the GM title...Vrabel is calling all the shots. One reason Wolf might still be around is for his scouting / drafting grading system which has not been used yet.

 

[Toofy]

Wolf is being demoted without change to title and wolf has agreed to reduced roles while keeping title . Otherwise they will need to do the search and all nonsense. They just wanted to get cowden in .

Maybe next year they do GM search for heck of it and name cowden the guy.

I think you need someone form front office to stay back and provide their rationale of why they picked the player and why it worked and why it didn't. These perspectives are useful.

 

[Steve102]

Wolf still being the #1 player personnel guy is nuts to me. What did he say to convince Kraft he's qualified for the job? How many trips did he take with Kraft to Israel?

Do you understand that if they bring in someone over Wolf they need to do Rooney Rules, but a lateral guy or below Wolf avoids it? It's day one of the new regime. Wolf is not in charge anymore, Vrabel is. Vrabel brings in his guy...day one.

This is Boston fans. If it’s not spelled out in blood and cracked teeth, you’re doing it wrong.

 

[Ross12]

Vice President of Player Personnel would be exactly one slot below Wolf, who is Executive Vice President of Player Personnel.

 

[Family]

I'll give him a chance, but the Giants are one of the few teams who can claim to have less talent than us

I just mentioned this on another thread but the Giants just had a heck of draft.

https://www.giants.com/news/dane-brugler-the-athletic-2024-nfl-all-rookie-team-malik-nabers-tyler-nubin-dru-phillips-tyrone-tracy

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He's only been with the Giants one year.