Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday...

[Pats726]

CMU students design equipment that senses football moves
OK maybe this needds to be moved to the NFL forum...
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From PFT...a football with sensers..would this help in situations?? I am SURE it would...crossing a goal line...grabbed in a pile up..whether a receiver had it before going out of bounds..Interesting..but technology IS needed at times..to help out.?

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

I would think that universal application of a camera looking right down the end zone stripe would be an easy solution. The technology exists (ever watch tennis, and the slo mo replays of the ball bouncing on the line?) and it would just need to be installed in each end zone in each stadium.

Not a trivial expense, I'm sure, to put two more fixed cameras in every stadium, but I bet if they wanted to pinch pennies they could find a sponsor and we would see replays from (for example) "the Microsoft endzone cam"

 

[Pats726]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

There are MANY technological things that COULD aid officials....they just wish to stay in the past ventury...

 

[memento]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

santonio holmes made the catch, not hines ward.

how about sensors over the field posts so we can get a better sense of field goals?

 

[tombonneau]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

I would think that universal application of a camera looking right down the end zone stripe would be an easy solution. The technology exists (ever watch tennis, and the slo mo replays of the ball bouncing on the line?) and it would just need to be installed in each end zone in each stadium.

Not a trivial expense, I'm sure, to put two more fixed cameras in every stadium, but I bet if they wanted to pinch pennies they could find a sponsor and we would see replays from (for example) "the Microsoft endzone cam"

This will be the ultimate solution. They just need to have one of those hanging steadi-cams over the goal line and the problem will be solved.

Besides, having a chip in the ball wouldn't solve the situation in Pitt/Bal where no one questioned the ball was at one point physically in the end zone, it was a question of did he catch & possess it while in the end zone.

But this brings me to another pet peeve: how in the world with large HDTVs have we not gotten to the point of InSync Replays, where the screen is quartered (or even just split on half) and the replays are shown from 2-4 angles synced up so you can look at one angle where you can clearly see the knee is down (but can't see the ball) and then at the same time the other angle where you can see when the ball comes loose (but not the knee go down).

 

[woolster22]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

This will be the ultimate solution. They just need to have one of those hanging steadi-cams over the goal line and the problem will be solved.

Besides, having a chip in the ball wouldn't solve the situation in Pitt/Bal where no one questioned the ball was at one point physically in the end zone, it was a question of did he catch & possess it while in the end zone.

But this brings me to another pet peeve: how in the world with large HDTVs have we not gotten to the point of InSync Replays, where the screen is quartered (or even just split on half) and the replays are shown from 2-4 angles synced up so you can look at one angle where you can clearly see the knee is down (but can't see the ball) and then at the same time the other angle where you can see when the ball comes loose (but not the knee go down).

would be nice for tv feeds, but would bring some serious heat on officials if they did botch a replay given they prob dont have a huge screen "under the hood." seems to me that the nfl likes to leave a little room for human error-which has some good arguments on both sides, and also leaves room for "questionable" calls in indy and denver

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

But this brings me to another pet peeve: how in the world with large HDTVs have we not gotten to the point of InSync Replays, where the screen is quartered (or even just split on half) and the replays are shown from 2-4 angles synced up so you can look at one angle where you can clearly see the knee is down (but can't see the ball) and then at the same time the other angle where you can see when the ball comes loose (but not the knee go down).

We don't because the NFL and broadcasters are too cheap to pay for the cameras you fantasize. They aren't there except some in big games. Watch the Oakland game?

 

[tombonneau]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

We don't because the NFL and broadcasters are too cheap to pay for the cameras you fantasize. They aren't there except some in big games. Watch the Oakland game?

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This has nothing to do with cost of cameras at all. It's using the current camera angles the TV networks are using and simply showing them in split screen. Same as when they put up the graphic for the official verdict of a review, and they have three shots on screen with:

Camera 1 on Ref
Camera 2 on Coach A
Camera 3 on Coach B

There is very limited amount of expense involved in fact; all the network cameras I'm sure have a time stamp, so it's just a matter of developing the software that syncs up the camera feeds that you want to run the replay. I'm sure this could be handled by the current replay tech and it shouldn't impact head count either.

I know I've seen split-screen replays in other sports. Have no clue why the NFL isn't doing it. It's one of those things that will happen in a few years and everyone will go "Wow, what a great idea, why wasn't this happening before?"

ETA:
But if you were simply misquoting me above and were responding to the aerial end zone cam, then yes, I agree 100%; the only reason it hasn't happened is networks/NFL doesn't want to spend the money on extra equipment except for big games.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Roboball as PFT puts it...might help someday..

Point is, oft times in telecasts CBS does not have that many (3) cameras. Really.