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Richard Seymour: ‘I could have helped"

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One player is not going to make the difference in a season. Yes, we are lacking a pass rushing attack. One player does not make a whole teams pass rush.

When the Patriots made this trade I think they thought they had the players that were adequate to replace his production. That hasnt happened. These things happen, sometimes players dont turn out the way a coach thinks they would.

How can you say this season is an "expense"? It isnt over yet. We're in very good position to win the AFC East, and you never know what will happen in the playoffs. Dont jump to conclusions too quickly to say that this season is an expense when it is far from over.

Well I'm certain that we are going nowhere, as soon as we meet a good pocket passer we are done, simple as that because he will have all day to find his man.
Seymour would have made a huge difference and its because of exactly what he says, TBC would be getting free a lot more often to get to the QB and he gets there when given the room.
 
You must have a good replacement for the guy you are getting rid of, we didn't and don't have anybody even remotely good enough to play the role he played in this team.

So I guess you didnt like the Branch trade either. If I remember correctly, we did ok that year
 
Branch wouldn't play, its a totally different situation. How can you compare the two?

You missed the point. Its not about WHY the player is gone. Your comment was about having a good replacement for Seymour. The Pats did not have a replacement for Branch, but still managed to come very close to the SB. If that were to happen this year, all this speculative talk about Seymour, will be forgotten, and even the BB haters will be acting like he's a god again.
 
BB haters? I personally adore the man, I listen to every word he has to say and read everything he says in print.

The fact that I'm willing to say that imo he made a mistake doesn't make me a BB hater. He didn't have a choice in the Branch situation, he had a choice with Seymour. Its a completley different situation.

Lay off the koolaid.
 
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BB haters? I personally adore the man, I listen to every word he has to say and read everything he says in print.

The fact that I'm willing to say that imo he made a mistake doesn't make me a BB hater. He didn't have a choice in the Branch situation, he had a choice with Seymour. Its a completley different situation.

Lay off the koolaid.

#1 i didnt say YOU were a hater
#2 if you go back to the original post of yours that i quoted, you'll see what im talking about concerning Branch.

actually nevermind, whats the point
 
One player is not going to make the difference in a season. Yes, we are lacking a pass rushing attack. One player does not make a whole teams pass rush.

When the Patriots made this trade I think they thought they had the players that were adequate to replace his production. That hasnt happened. These things happen, sometimes players dont turn out the way a coach thinks they would.

How can you say this season is an "expense"? It isnt over yet. We're in very good position to win the AFC East, and you never know what will happen in the playoffs. Dont jump to conclusions too quickly to say that this season is an expense when it is far from over.

One player most certainly can bring your pass rush from awful to decent. Seymour on the field would mean that TBC never saw a double team, and if that were the case he'd be getting a whole lot of pressure.

As for "you never know what will happen in the playoffs", you do know what will happen in the playoffs when you can't rush the passer. How many of the Pats' wins have come against teams with good QBs? Because in the playoffs, most teams have good QBs, and we're going to have to beat the likes of Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees if we want to have a shot at the SB. Do you have faith in our ability to stop any of those guys? Because if you do, with our pass rush, then I don't know what to tell you.

The teams that 'click' down the stretch pretty much always have the same profile: capable of doing pretty much everything well, but inconsistent in execution. That tends to signify correctable mistakes, and when they get corrected the team starts playing at its true level. That's what happened with the Cardinals last year, the Giants in 2007, etc. But the Pats aren't just inconsistent in the pass rush (and pass protection, for that matter); they outright don't have one. There's no amount of 'coaching up' that will fix that problem- it's a personnel issue and it's way, way too late to address it for 2009. That's what happens when you take a barely-decent pass rush in 2008 and trade your best pass rusher. Even TBC can't very well counteract the loss, when he's essentially making up for Mike Vrabel.
 
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You missed the point. Its not about WHY the player is gone. Your comment was about having a good replacement for Seymour. The Pats did not have a replacement for Branch, but still managed to come very close to the SB. If that were to happen this year, all this speculative talk about Seymour, will be forgotten, and even the BB haters will be acting like he's a god again.

With Branch, they would have won the SB. As EE pointed out, though, Branch forced their hand, and Seymour didn't. Not to mention that Seymour is five times the player Branch ever was. Branch was a nice WR- good hands, shifty, ran precise routes- but he was only as good as Brady made him. Realistically, there are Deion Branches all over the NFL. If we'd known further ahead of time that Branch was out of the picture, IMO the Pats would have won the SB anyways, since Brady would have had more time to develop chemistry with replacements.
 
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One player most certainly can bring your pass rush from awful to decent. Seymour on the field would mean that TBC never saw a double team, and if that were the case he'd be getting a whole lot of pressure.

As for "you never know what will happen in the playoffs", you do know what will happen in the playoffs when you can't rush the passer. How many of the Pats' wins have come against teams with good QBs? Because in the playoffs, most teams have good QBs, and we're going to have to beat the likes of Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees if we want to have a shot at the SB. Do you have faith in our ability to stop any of those guys? Because if you do, with our pass rush, then I don't know what to tell you.

The teams that 'click' down the stretch pretty much always have the same profile: capable of doing pretty much everything well, but inconsistent in execution. That tends to signify correctable mistakes, and when they get corrected the team starts playing at its true level. That's what happened with the Cardinals last year, the Giants in 2007, etc. But the Pats aren't just inconsistent in the pass rush (and pass protection, for that matter); they outright don't have one. There's no amount of 'coaching up' that will fix that problem- it's a personnel issue and it's way, way too late to address it for 2009. That's what happens when you take a barely-decent pass rush in 2008 and trade your best pass rusher. Even TBC can't very well counteract the loss, when he's essentially making up for Mike Vrabel.

The Patriots, even in their Super Bowl years were never a team that was a dominant pass rushing team. We got that done with disguising blitzes from our secondary and LBs.

Theres nothing that says in order to win a Super Bowl you have to have a good pass rush. I do have faith that we can beat Rivers, Palmer, Manning and Brees. We do have some issues that we need to address, but we still have 3 weeks to do this. We can win games with our offense rather than our defense. If our defense continues to play like it has, and our offense steps up and plays to their potential I think we can beat anyone on any given Sunday.

Your argument that you need to have a good pass rush to win a Super Bowl is weak, even the Pats didnt have a great pass rush, it was better than what it is now thats for sure, but I wouldnt call it great. Do you think teams in the AFC want to play Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the playoffs?
 
Your argument that you need to have a good pass rush to win a Super Bowl is weak, even the Pats didnt have a great pass rush, it was better than what it is now thats for sure, but I wouldnt call it great.

In 2001 the Pats were 13th in sacks. The only other team since then to be outside the top 8 in the NFL in sacks and win the Super Bowl was the Colts who most acknowledge as the worst defensive team ever to win a Super Bowl.

There seems to be some decent evidence that recent Super Bowl winners were good pass rushing teams. The 2009 Pats rank 29th in sacks.
 
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