PFT: "Booger" McFarland traded to Colts

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

It won't hurt them this season. It probably won't help either but they had to try someting.

It will hurt a lot down down the road as a #2 pick is a huge price to pay for what he has brought to the table the last couple years. Also with the colts philosophy on spending big on a select few, they need those good draft picks to be the high performing lower paid players on the roster.

Good point. The way the Colts shed defensive players each season, they need those draft picks.

 

[workhorse]

I guess cap wise this won't hurt the Colts if it doesn't work. His bonus has already been paid, so his contract is all salary for next year. The Colts could cut him with no cap hit.

 

[Lockdown06]

actually, the Bucs fans absolutely love this deal, sounds good to me. http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=127396

 

[pats1]

I guess cap wise this won't hurt the Colts if it doesn't work. His bonus has already been paid, so his contract is all salary for next year. The Colts could cut him with no cap hit.

Still at the price of a 2nd rounder.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

The Colts could cut him with no cap hit.

Solid use of a draft pick there

I don't like this for the Colts, a #2 for an aging DL with big salaries upcoming. Day one picks are the foundation of any long lasting team. Of course with Peyton 31 next year and Harrison even older, the Colts' window doesn't have too many years left.

 

[RyanTheColtsFan]

Most of the comments on the Bucs board claim he hasn't had a sack in years. Which is fine with me.

We need a fat run stuffer with Simon out.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Most of the comments on the Bucs board claim he hasn't had a sack in years. Which is fine with me.

We need a fat run stuffer with Simon out.

Doesn't matter, Peyton will still choke in the big one.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Most of the comments on the Bucs board claim he hasn't had a sack in years. Which is fine with me.

We need a fat run stuffer with Simon out.

He was Sapp's replacement, he's no run stuffer.

 

[VJCPatriot]

This move smells of desperation. Same like drafting Addai a round early. These are clearly need moves so the Colts are getting ripped off a bit in each transaction. When you start to lose value even a bit at a time in the end you will pay for it. IF the colts run D improves in the short term than the tradeoff becomes worth it. If not you've lost both current and future value which would suck for them.

 

[Flying Fungi]

For perspective...

Tampa Bay is last in the NFC at rushing defense and 26th in the NFL with an average of 141.2 yards per game surrendered on an average of 30.2 carries per game

hardly an inspiring pickup in this light

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-RUSHING/2006/regular


Anthony McFarland has a total of 8 tackles (6 solo, 2 assists, 0 sacks), to rank 15th on the 1-4 Tampa defense. He ranks behind such notables as Greg Spires and Chris Hovan and has exactly twice as many solo tackles as WR Joey Galloway.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/TB

I will throw my vote towards the side of this being a wasted pick and cap money that will have minimal impact.

fwiw--Willie Andrews of the Patriots has 7 total tackles...one fewer than Booger...

 

[workhorse]

Solid use of a draft pick there

I don't like this for the Colts, a #2 for an aging DL with big salaries upcoming. Day one picks are the foundation of any long lasting team. Of course with Peyton 31 next year and Harrison even older, the Colts' window doesn't have too many years left.

Well, if you think the window is closing or that this is your year, you do what you can to make it happen.

This move smells of desperation. Same like drafting Addai a round early. These are clearly need moves so the Colts are getting ripped off a bit in each transaction. When you start to lose value even a bit at a time in the end you will pay for it. IF the colts run D improves in the short term than the tradeoff becomes worth it. If not you've lost both current and future value which would suck for them.

There is no way Addai was taken a round early. The Colts needed a back, he was by far the best one left on the board and would not be there when the Colts picked in the second round. Booger isn't going to be asked to be the answer. He is there to put some size in the middle and to get some blockers off of Freeney and the LBers.

 

[workhorse]

For perspective...

Tampa Bay is last in the NFC at rushing defense and 26th in the NFL with an average of 141.2 yards per game surrendered on an average of 30.2 carries per game

hardly an inspiring pickup in this light

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-RUSHING/2006/regular


Anthony McFarland has a total of 8 tackles (6 solo, 2 assists, 0 sacks), to rank 15th on the 1-4 Tampa defense. He ranks behind such notables as Greg Spires and Chris Hovan and has exactly twice as many solo tackles as WR Joey Galloway.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/TB

I will throw my vote towards the side of this being a wasted pick and cap money that will have minimal impact.

fwiw--Willie Andrews of the Patriots has 7 total tackles...one fewer than Booger...

He was part of the 6th ranked rushing D last season. Most of that 2006 yardage came from one game when they game up 300+ to Atlanta. This past week they held Rudi Johnson to about 50 yards. He is not being brought in to make all the tackles. I don't care if he makes a bunch or not. He will help put some beef in the center of the line so they don't get pushed around as much and to keep teams from double teaming the ends.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Well, if you think the window is closing or that this is your year, you do what you can to make it happen.

Or you look long term too and keep the window open even after Petey leaves. Like some other team will do. Keep in mind Bob Sanders was drafted with a late #2, that's the kind of young, quality player you may well give up for an overpaid over the hill dumpee of TB.

 

[workhorse]

Or you look long term too and keep the window open even after Petey leaves. Like some other team will do. Keep in mind Bob Sanders was drafted with a late #2, that's the kind of young, quality player you may well give up for an overpaid over the hill dumpee of TB.

The Colts have been able to put a good team on the field longer than most teams around have been able to do. So, from that point of view, I'm not too worried. Sanders was not taken with a late 2nd. He was taken with an early 2nd. The Colts traded out of the bottom of the 1st round and into the top of the 2nd to take Sanders.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Sanders was not taken with a late 2nd. He was taken with an early 2nd.

OK, mid second. Whatever, I'm happy to see a #2 be traded for a guy like Booger.

 

[patsox23]

It continues to amaze me that so much off-season talk centered on losses like Givens, AV and McGinest, yet so little about EDGERRIN JAMES, David Thornton and Larry Tripplette. The Indy D sucking is not at all surprising.

 

[workhorse]

OK, mid second. Whatever, I'm happy to see a #2 be traded for a guy like Booger.

Well, the 4th pick in the second round isn't exactly mid second, but whatever you want to call it, feel free.

It continues to amaze me that so much off-season talk centered on losses like Givens, AV and McGinest, yet so little about EDGERRIN JAMES, David Thornton and Larry Tripplette. The Indy D sucking is not at all surprising.

There was plenty of talk about Edge leaving. You are joking about that, right? But what does that have to do with the defense?

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Well, the 4th pick in the second round isn't exactly mid second, but whatever you want to call it, feel free.

12th. Mid.

http://www.drafthistory.com/teams/colts.html

 

[workhorse]

12th. Mid.

http://www.drafthistory.com/teams/colts.html

Doh. I forgot they traded down a second time in the second round that year. Mike Doss is a better example of a late 2nd round pick by the Colts though. And he was considered first round talent the year they took him.

 

[patsox23]

There was plenty of talk about Edge leaving. You are joking about that, right?

Nope. Sorry, there wasn't. Maybe in Indy and AZ, but as a national story it was all about "THE PATRIOTS RUN IS DONE because they've lost too many guys." I'm not saying Edge's FA wasn't a story, but there was said to be pretty much NO EFFECT due to his departure, along with the two defensive players - especially in comparison to the Givens-McGinest-AV defections.