PATRIOTS NEWS Patriots Training Camp 7-26-2023

[patfanken]

Don't we have enough Strong Safeties here already?

This is one of my pet peeves about reporters making these kinds of comments, and I generally like Lazar, who is a hard working guy who puts in the film time during the season. But in this case, it was a T-shirt and shorts practice on day one. Why anyone would make a comment on where someone lines up is beyond me. Plus the kid is still in a no contact jersey.

Second, and probably more important, this is going to be a very FLUID group at the 2nd and 3rd levels this season. Things are going to change week to week due to match ups and there will be a lot of sophisticated disguise packages that will be put into place as well. This is all designed to make it hard for QB's and receivers to identify positions and coverages pre snap. As the physical characteristics between LB;'s and SS's seem to differ, where SS are getting bigger and LB's smaller and faster It is going to he very interesting (at least to me) to try and determine responsibilities based on where guys wind up post snap, rather than try and label them pre snap

So I wouldn't take much notice or care about labelling Mapu's position. Clearly he's there to be some kind of hybrid match up player filling a weekly role. In another era he'd be called a "cover LB" But in the end, I'm warming up to WHY he was brought in so early and what he could potentially do with his unique physical gifts and instincts, especially against the kind offenses we see these days. I would suspect to see more Mapu types to get significant roles around the league over the next few years.

 

[JarOfMayo51]

Mac throws a pick already yikes.

QBs tend to throw lots of picks in training camp and practice

1 reason is because theyre just now getting together to officially kick off training camp, so they arent firing on all cylinders

another reason is that QBs will take more chances and experiment in practice rather than a game, this has been quoted by a number of different QBs over the years

and another reason is that sometimes the defense makes plays too, we have a lot of good defenders on this team so its a good sign on that front

 

[Love The Drake]

QBs tend to throw lots of picks in training camp and practice

1 reason is because theyre just now getting together to officially kick off training camp, so they arent firing on all cylinders

another reason is that QBs will take more chances and experiment in practice rather than a game, this has been quoted by a number of different QBs over the years

and another reason is that sometimes the defense makes plays too, we have a lot of good defenders on this team so its a good sign on that front

I’ll add they don’t have the rapport with their receivers and the play execution.

 

[patfanken]

Could it be Bill's way of telling him You ****ed up kid, so you're going to be here for a bit while you think about it?

That's probably right and I think it was a good move. There was a reason he was suspended the last game. Clearly he felt his performance guaranteed him his status and he didn't HAVE to earn it in every practice, (or in his case, working hard to get back from injury). Then add the off season stupidity and I think it was to be expected. If he wants to be a starting CB on this team, he is going to need to EARN it.

2 other quick points:

1. Does it really matter on the first day of camp who the "starters" are?

2.. One of today's "thumbs up" for Bedard was Shawn Wade. In another thread we were discussing CB depth and he wasn't even a thought in my mind. Up to now he SEEMED to be one of those good ideas at the time, that hadn't panned out. Just maybe he came to camp to take his last shot at staying in the league. At any rate, he can be added to the discussion of who will provide quality CB depth

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Why would he be suspended?

Two games seems to be a likely number:

Chiefs’ Frank Clark suspended two games by NFL over gun charges

Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark has been suspended two games by the NFL for violating the league’s personal conduct policy.

nypost.com

 

[Love The Drake]

Two games seems to be a likely number:

Chiefs’ Frank Clark suspended two games by NFL over gun charges

Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Frank Clark has been suspended two games by the NFL for violating the league’s personal conduct policy.

nypost.com

Aaron Rodgers hates him multiply the 2 games by 4.

 

[mike_usagisan]

 

[Zuma]

This is one of my pet peeves about reporters making these kinds of comments, and I generally like Lazar, who is a hard working guy who puts in the film time during the season. But in this case, it was a T-shirt and shorts practice on day one.

I get your point…I think he was just reporting on what he was seeing. Us as fans appreciate that…at least I do. I can’t complain.

 

[DarrylS]

There's an actual announcer there, trying to influence fan reaction? I never thought about one being there at all...

Mike Reilly, aka The Sarge, was working hard to get the crowd into a frenzy during the pre practice, it did not work all that well all well as all he was was loud... apparently he took John Rooks place as the in game announcer.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Mike Reilly, aka The Sarge, was working hard to get the crowd into a frenzy during the pre practice, it did not work all that well all well as all he was was loud... apparently he took John Rooks place as the in game announcer.

Well, it’s TC for him too. Hopefully he’ll be in better form come game day.

 

[Kontradiction]

Anyone overreacting to the offense today should remind themselves that the defenses tend to come out ahead of the offenses early on in TC. The timing just isn’t there yet on the offensive side the ball. If the offense keeps getting locked down as camp goes on, it might be time to worry a bit

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

Anyone overreacting to the offense today should remind themselves that the defenses tend to come out ahead of the offenses early on in TC. The timing just isn’t there yet on the offensive side the ball. If the offense keeps getting locked down as camp goes on, it might be time to worry a bit

Not only that, but they worked just in the red zone where our offense has struggled and our defense excels!

 

[upstater1]

I still can't get used to seeing players wearing those Great Gazoos.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

In prior years I seem to recall there were always a couple of players that failed the conditioning test. Is that right?

 

[Kontradiction]

I still can't get used to seeing players wearing those Great Gazoos.

I love them. I think they will be very effective at stopping the brain, which is surrounded by liquid, from bumping into the skull. A worthwhile investment, if there ever was one, by the NFL.

 

[Patsfan1958]

 

[Kontradiction]

If that means he’ll spend less time giving us his next to worthless opinion on the Patriots, I’m all for him smoking some meats.

 

[State]

Anyone know about Chasen Hines? I was hoping he’d become at least an adequate backup to Mine Onwenu. But Bill Murray? Rewarding behavior methinks. Kid won’t quit.

 

[Zuma]

Anyone know about Chasen Hines? I was hoping he’d become at least an adequate backup to Mine Onwenu. But Bill Murray? Rewarding behavior methinks. Kid won’t quit.

It seemed like there was some disappointment about Hines on the Patriots staff according to Patriots Unfiltered.

 

[State]

Second, and probably more important, this is going to be a very FLUID group at the 2nd and 3rd levels this season.

Yes. But I worry about teams drawing these hybrid defenders in toward the line of scrimmage on run fakes or even flea flickers and a guy getting behind Mapu, Peppers, Phillips, et al for a big gain. They need a speedster back there like McCourty used to be. The recovery speed is lacking except for Jonathan Jones.