Patriots Daily News Thread Patriots practice 8/22/23

[Sicilian]

I don't disagree that they're going to have to scheme around the line a bit, but let's not pretend that screens haven't been a huge part of this offense for over 20 years now.

 

[Kasmir]

We can continue the Sow discussion forever.

I thought he looks off balance nearly all the time on passing, and that in a real NFL game, Sow will get chewed up.

He appears to be a quality run blocker, so I think he's an NFL starter, just not ever at the tackle position, except for maybe a few scattered games.

For a guy who hasn't played OT for years, he's probably doing really well. I'm sure that what the coaching staff is looking at is his rate of improvement and what potential it projects for him as an OT.

 

[Zuma]

 

[Patsfan1958]

Just thought I'd drop this here..

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/new...arrest-warrant-child-support-receiver-florida

 

[Family]

For a guy who hasn't played OT for years, he's probably doing really well. I'm sure that what the coaching staff is looking at is his rate of improvement and what potential it projects for him as an OT.

Reiff's play at guard has at least justified the experiment.

I didn't want to go into the season at guard with just the injured starters plus Mafi, Hines, and the rest. Reiff's play has deepened the position.

 

[slam]

Just thought I'd drop this here..

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/new...arrest-warrant-child-support-receiver-florida

Story about Antonio Brown.
I clicked so you don’t have to.

 

[n1997y]

Story about Antonio Brown.
I clicked so you don’t have to.

Too late. But I clicked away from it real quick. Thanks for trying.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Bill's press conference will be here, but yet again, it didn't start on time:

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[DaBruinz]

This is correct. Not to pump BB, but the coaching staff thinks Onwenu belongs at RG. But PatsFans keeps putting Onwenu at RT. I can't explain it, but the Pats coaches all seem to agree that Onwenu is a RG. It is not reluctance. That is their professional wisdom, understand it or not.

Onwenu was ok at RT. He played there because he was the best option the Pats had at the time. He was below average at LG. RG he was one of the top 5 in the league.

As a rookie, he played 12 games at RT and gave up 3 sacks, 1 hit, and 6 hurries in 286 pass blocking snaps.
In 2021, he played 5 more games at RT and gave up 2 hits and 2 hurries in 136 pass blocking snaps.

so, that's 3 sacks, 3 hits and 8 hurries in 422 snaps at RT

At RG in 2022, he gave up 1 sack, 2 hits, and 11 hurries in 634 snaps.

 

[mike_usagisan]

 

[Zuma]

Bill's press conference will be here, but yet again, it didn't start on time:

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[captain stone]

Agree in general, and that's certainly one option. Onwenu is all-star quality at guard and (I think?) average quality at OT, so we'd be weakening one position to strengthen another. Might still be the best bet, at least for a while.

If he had been healthy throughout camp, I could've envisioned a return to RT for Onwenu in order to accommodate Reiffer... I'd be surprised if that happens now, however; maybe later in the season perhaps...

I suspect that what looks like reluctance or stubbornness to us is the result of them having more information, experience, and wisdom than all of us combined.

Well that hasn't stopped them before, so...

 

[mike_usagisan]

 

[mike_usagisan]

 

[captain stone]

And it'll go on until he's been provided adequate time to learn how to pass block as an NFL OT, making the transition from college guard. There isn't any reason why he would be good at it at this point. So we wait and see. If he's going to get good at it, it'll probably be later in the year, or next, before that happens.

But does he have to go through this on-the-job training while actually starting and possibly risking his QB's health? Why can't he learn all that during the week, and then watch the games on Sunday from the sidelines?

 

[Love The Drake]

Yeah I’ve always been a fan of all Bill’s movies so when I had the chance to have a player with the same name as my favorite actor I jumped at the chance.
I mean what the hell if I’ve been able to sell thanks Dad Ferentz on this roster I figured I could have no problem selling Murray on the roster.

On an unrelated note myself, Bill, James and Myles all went to the Taylor Swift concert and had an amazing time.
Now that doesn’t guarantee any of them three an automatic roster spot added Bill.
However he then smiled and winked before adding doesn’t hurt their chances though.

 

[Family]

But does he have to go through this on-the-job training while actually starting and possibly risking his QB's health? Why can't he learn all that during the week, and then watch the games on Sunday from the sidelines?

His injury is to an ankle.

I would think the tackle position would be more challenging than guard from that standpoint.

 

[TheBeers]

Just thought I'd drop this here..

https://www.si.com/nfl/patriots/new...arrest-warrant-child-support-receiver-florida

Lol "former Patriots WR" yeah for like 20 minutes jeez

 

[mike_usagisan]

Lol "former Patriots WR" yeah for like 20 minutes jeez

I wonder if they do the same news item for each team he played on, but "former Buc WR" etc.?

 

[patfanken]

KWe can continue the Sow discussion forever.

I thought he looks off balance nearly all the time on passing, and that in a real NFL game, Sow will get chewed up.

He appears to be a quality run blocker, so I think he's an NFL starter, just not ever at the tackle position, except for maybe a few scattered games.

Lets remember that Sow is not only a rookie transitioning into the NFL. He is a rookie who is also making a position change. A very tough ask for a kid, SO you are going to get the bad AND the good. What needs to be looked at is how much he improves or doesn't week to week. In an ideal world he becomes the back up RT for this year as starts to LEARN his craft.

How this turns out will tell us how good a OL coach Klemm actually is. If he can turn a 4th round G into a starting NFL OT over the next 3 years we will have a good clue