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A couple days ago, I was talking to my brother, who lives in Los Angeles. Somewhere in the conversation, I mentioned how the Chargers were moving to Los Angeles. Not only didn't he know that, he didn't realize the Rams had moved there last year.

So yeah...enjoy that level of dedication Deano
 
So that's how Norv stuck around all these years...Best part of the article.

As much as Marty Schott. would find a way (almost like clockwork) to lose in the playoffs, it did seem odd to fire him given SD had 14 wins as well as how damn hard it is to find an HC that can consistently produce winning seasons. 'He doesn't win enough in the playoffs' is certainly an understandable complaint but it's one of those proverbial first world problems. Sooo many organizations would be glad to have a team that most often disappoints in the playoffs versus rarely being in sniffing range of the playoffs.

I think the same thing happened in SF with Harbaugh. Both situations are owners who don't understand the uncommon value of having a HC that produces winning seasons and playoff appearances. These two placed too much value on HCs that say "yes sir, whatever you say sir".

As far as the article, it's definitely a scorcher that paints a REALLY bad picture of the Chargers' owner - a picture that may be entirely true. But the article is also full of anecdotal ranting. The Chargers are in the lower third in attendance. While maybe Spanos should have still paid for and built a new stadium in San Diego, when stadiums are a cost of 1 to 1.5 billion dollars, what the attendance potential is in relation to a 1+ billion dollar investment is a fair thing to be concerned with in San Diego.
As far as whether the Rams or Chargers will work in LA? I don't know but I'll say this -- put a Patriots, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Denver etc type repeated playoff team on the field for several consecutive seasons and LA is likely to be a major win foe that franchise,
 
As much as Marty Schott. would find a way (almost like clockwork) to lose in the playoffs, it did seem odd to fire him given SD had 14 wins as well as how damn hard it is to find an HC that can consistently produce winning seasons. 'He doesn't win enough in the playoffs' is certainly an understandable complaint but it's one of those proverbial first world problems. Sooo many organizations would be glad to have a team that most often disappoints in the playoffs versus rarely being in sniffing range of the playoffs.

I think the same thing happened in SF with Harbaugh. Both situations are owners who don't understand the uncommon value of having a HC that produces winning seasons and playoff appearances. These two placed too much value on HCs that say "yes sir, whatever you say sir".

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This part. What winning coaches bring to a fan base is HOPE. Hope that this year will be THE YEAR. The fans have seen the winning seasons, have seen the team make it to the playoffs and know, just know,deep down inside that their team can go all the way and bring that Lomardi to THEIR town.

That's a powerful thing, hope. It's what drives fans to buy up tickets, to wear the laundry proudly, and purchase bucket loads of swag.

I attended a lecture once where one of the speakers was Ed Neiman, of the Neiman-Marcus company. He was talking about how businesses fail. He said that the surest way to fail in business was to place profit at the top of your list. In his words, going into business to make a profit was the surest way to fail.

Think about that for a minute. He wasn't saying you could NOT make a profit. What he is saying is that in order to succeed in business, you have to provide a product and/or service, for which people are WILLING to pay you a profit. That may seem like semantics, but it isn't.

For example, a business that sells, say, toasters, for $9.99 might seem like a great deal. But if you have to buy a new one every year because it breaks down, then it isn't so hot. Paying $40 for a toaster that will last you at least 10 years, and maybe many more, will actually be a savings to you of $60 over those 10 years. Not a lot, but it's a quality issue.

Same with a winning football franchise. Once the fans know that you are providing a product FOR them, and it's a top-flight quality product, they will buy in, and pay you that premium, that profit, because they understand that you put their interests into the equation, and not just lining your pockets.

So hope sells. Performance sells. Quality always sells. Great business leaders know that, and great franchises succeed, even through the down years, because the fans understand they they are seen as more than just meat-based ATM's.

The Chargers deserved better from ownership. Much better. Instead, they got owned by a guy with no skin in the game, who sees them as a tax-write off, and a source of arm-candy and bling for his personal pleasure.

Until that changes, the once-proud Chargers franchise will just be another football team.
 
A couple days ago, I was talking to my brother, who lives in Los Angeles. Somewhere in the conversation, I mentioned how the Chargers were moving to Los Angeles. Not only didn't he know that, he didn't realize the Rams had moved there last year.

So yeah...enjoy that level of dedication Deano
Bill Simmons said it best
 
As much as Marty Schott. would find a way (almost like clockwork) to lose in the playoffs, it did seem odd to fire him given SD had 14 wins as well as how damn hard it is to find an HC that can consistently produce winning seasons. 'He doesn't win enough in the playoffs' is certainly an understandable complaint but it's one of those proverbial first world problems. Sooo many organizations would be glad to have a team that most often disappoints in the playoffs versus rarely being in sniffing range of the playoffs.

I think the same thing happened in SF with Harbaugh. Both situations are owners who don't understand the uncommon value of having a HC that produces winning seasons and playoff appearances. These two placed too much value on HCs that say "yes sir, whatever you say sir".

As far as the article, it's definitely a scorcher that paints a REALLY bad picture of the Chargers' owner - a picture that may be entirely true. But the article is also full of anecdotal ranting. The Chargers are in the lower third in attendance. While maybe Spanos should have still paid for and built a new stadium in San Diego, when stadiums are a cost of 1 to 1.5 billion dollars, what the attendance potential is in relation to a 1+ billion dollar investment is a fair thing to be concerned with in San Diego.
As far as whether the Rams or Chargers will work in LA? I don't know but I'll say this -- put a Patriots, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Denver etc type repeated playoff team on the field for several consecutive seasons and LA is likely to be a major win foe that franchise,

I feel bad for Schottenheimer. I get that the playoff record is terrible, and you are what you are. But when you really break it down, I think he had some terrible luck too.

During his Cleveland run, he had Bernie Kosar, and would lose to Marino and Elway. He had The Fumble game. And his last year, he started 4 different QBs and had one of his backups in for the playoff loss.

In KC, he had oooooold guys like Steve DeBerg, Dave Krieg, old Joe Montana, and Steve Bono. Then they ran into the Bills dynasty, losing twice to those Super Bowl Bills teams, once to the Broncos Super Bowl team.

In San Diego, they lost in 2004 to the Jets, and in 2006 to us, both at home. That probably cemented the playoff loser status.

But generally, he often ran into HOF QBs while almost never having one of his own. The closest he got was old Joe Montana, and a breakout year of Drew Brees. Otherwise he's going against Marino, Elway, Kelly, and Brady with Bernie Kosar and Steve Bono and similar. There should be no surprise that he didn't win many of those match-ups.
 
I feel bad for Schottenheimer. I get that the playoff record is terrible, and you are what you are. But when you really break it down, I think he had some terrible luck too.

During his Cleveland run, he had Bernie Kosar, and would lose to Marino and Elway. He had The Fumble game. And his last year, he started 4 different QBs and had one of his backups in for the playoff loss.

In KC, he had oooooold guys like Steve DeBerg, Dave Krieg, old Joe Montana, and Steve Bono. Then they ran into the Bills dynasty, losing twice to those Super Bowl Bills teams, once to the Broncos Super Bowl team.

In San Diego, they lost in 2004 to the Jets, and in 2006 to us, both at home. That probably cemented the playoff loser status.

But generally, he often ran into HOF QBs while almost never having one of his own. The closest he got was old Joe Montana, and a breakout year of Drew Brees. Otherwise he's going against Marino, Elway, Kelly, and Brady with Bernie Kosar and Steve Bono and similar. There should be no surprise that he didn't win many of those match-ups.

Couldn't agree more. IIRC, Marty also didn't have a whole lot of choice in his draft picks at KC or SD, with ownership coming down hard on who THEY wanted to get.
 
Living in LA, I'm glad we've got two teams in town now.

Means I get to watch the Patriots play twice in a year (sometimes) without having to fly to Massachusetts. Again.
 
That's one ass ripping article. Holy cow.

Ass ripping, indeed:
Los Angeles is built on apathy. It has perfected the art of letting you know it doesn’t give a **** about you. Everyone comes here to “make it,” and, because it’s so hard to do that, no one has the time or the sympathy to give a **** about you. You never even get a “no” in Los Angeles, because a “no” takes almost a second, and **** you if you think you’re worth that. In fact, Los Angeles gives a **** about you only once you’ve become successful enough that the approval is no longer something you need. Apathy always seems better than hatred until you realize that at least someone has to put in effort to hate you.
 
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