OT: Pansy Football

[Kdo5]

Soccer is a good sport, the reason I think people hate it is because of the European fans...most are European fans who call Football a pansy sport with lots of pads etc. Its just exchanges and arguments back and forth. Both are good sports. They are both tough. Football more so obviously...

There are some terrible refs who will call out yellow or red cards for an aggressive slide tackle but I've seen a few brutal things that have happened on a soccer field in videos. It takes a lot to be a Soccer player and it takes a lot to be a Football player. Which do I like more? Football, its my favorite sport out there but I dont think Soccer is half as bad as people here make it out to be. Football is far better than what the European fans will say it is. Both are byassed and will both hate each others sport but me...

They are both good sports, the arguments wont persuade anyone, I guarentee it.

 

[zzzzzz]

As far as I´m concerned their football is older than our. And the name makes way more logic to a sport that the athlete actually kicks the ball with his feet other than throw, run, stop, throw, run , stop .Having said that I still don´t like. :bricks:

 

[primetime]

"not popular in the US"-soccer happens to the #1 youth sport in the US, as far as players taking dives and soccer being a "pansy sport" I sure would like to see some you guys running around for 90 minutes and seeing how long it would take you to get up from a kick to your leg.

Let me first say I like soccer. I'm a pretty passionate fan and enjoy the sport. It's behind football, hockey, and baseball, but I'd rather watch a Hotspur game than a Celtics game.

For your first point, you clearly just made that up. Soccer's strongholds in the US are the east coast and California. Little league baseball is far more popular in these areas than soccer. Same goes for basketball. I would bet Pop Warner football is more popular, especially in California. In the northeast, hockey is more popular amongst boys, and lacrosse might be more popular too. In the US, soccer's a middle class suburban sport (sort of like hockey), unlike in the rest of the world where it's the everyman's sport.

As for the kick to the leg thing, rugby players manage to play at a high pace (without some of the standing around/walking that's present in soccer) for 80 minutes straight, and the game is far more directly physical than soccer. They don't take dives.

 

[Seymour93]

In the US, soccer's a middle class suburban sport (sort of like hockey), unlike in the rest of the world where it's the everyman's sport.

Bingo, that's exactly the problem. Ask small town, white or black males and 9 out of 10 couldn't have the slightest clue who Ronaldinho or Wayne Rooney or even Landon Donovan are.

Here in my town, a lot of kids play kid league soccer until they're about ten and suddenly they stop (the only people who keep playing are the Mexicans). They stop because they have no one to idolize, IMO. There are no American Messi's or Beckham's. Being the self-obsessed nation that we are, it's hard for kids to want to follow the footsteps of some well-groomed, flamboyant Euro. This is where Major League Soccer comes in. America will never accept soccer as a legit sport until it gets a first-rate professional, televised league.

 

[Mike the Brit]

OK Mike, I'll see your photo of the poor soccer guy getting his balls grabbed and raise you this one:



Who would you rather be?

The one wearing this:

 

[Mike the Brit]

If you're squeamish, don't read this ...

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s22/e11178/sport_lng0_spo22_evt11178_sto764765.shtml


In the Bundesliga, you had to feel sorry for midfielder Chavdar Yankow at the weekend. The Hannover player received an injury that is surely the worst nightmare for the majority of the world's male population.
The horrific incident occurred in the tenth minute of Hannover's game with Frankfurt. Yankow himself explains:
</IMG>"I ran towards the ball and my opponent, the Frankfurt striker Köhler, kicked his foot into my penis," the player said.
Yankow carried on playing, despite the usually debilitating feeling one has after having taken a blow to the nether regions.
The Bulgarian went on to gain instant hero status with the home crowd when after a few minutes, he noticed that his shorts were full of blood.
</IMG>"I quickly ran to the side line," he continued. "But I felt no pain."
In the dressing room he realised what had happened. The skin of his penis had been ripped four centimetres. But the midfielder wasn't finished there - he actually came back out to finish playing the first half after having glued (yes, glued!) the wound and put a plaster on it.
At half time, the plaster was changed and he came back out for the second half a new man (but only just, a few centimetres more and it could have been a different story). And just to prove the point, he went on to score the second goal and seal victory for Hannover.

 

[PATSNUTme]

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s22/e11178/sport_lng0_spo22_evt11178_sto764765.shtml


In the Bundesliga, you had to feel sorry for midfielder Chavdar Yankow at the weekend. The Hannover player received an injury that is surely the worst nightmare for the majority of the world's male population.
The horrific incident occurred in the tenth minute of Hannover's game with Frankfurt. Yankow himself explains:
</IMG>"I ran towards the ball and my opponent, the Frankfurt striker Köhler, kicked his foot into my penis," the player said.
Yankow carried on playing, despite the usually debilitating feeling one has after having taken a blow to the nether regions.
The Bulgarian went on to gain instant hero status with the home crowd when after a few minutes, he noticed that his shorts were full of blood.
</IMG>"I quickly ran to the side line," he continued. "But I felt no pain."
In the dressing room he realised what had happened. The skin of his penis had been ripped four centimetres. But the midfielder wasn't finished there - he actually came back out to finish playing the first half after having glued (yes, glued!) the wound and put a plaster on it.
At half time, the plaster was changed and he came back out for the second half a new man (but only just, a few centimetres more and it could have been a different story). And just to prove the point, he went on to score the second goal and seal victory for Hannover.

Wow. That is amazing!




Amazing that they could get glue and plaster to stick in such a small area of a soccer player.

 

[BruschiOnTap]

Soccer is anything but a pansy sport. They play 90 minutes, practically straight through, with no TV timeouts and only 3 substitutions allowed per side per match. On top of all that, think of all the pressure to lose games, in that corrupt Italian league. ;-)

Golf is the ultimate pansy sport, followed closely by baseball (we play two games in one day! let's do shots of whiskey before the game! Look how many hot dogs John Kruk ate in the 7th inning stretch!) overprivileged white dudes in Dockers and fat guys in pyjamas should barely even qualify as sports

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Have you ever seen a girls soccer game? Talk about wasting large patches of perfectly good grass.

I concede two things about soccer:

1-It can be very rough from the HS level on up.

2-It is a very popular "gateway" sport for little kids, most of whom move on to football, basketball or baseball in junior high.

Two things I hate about soccer:

1-Soccer nuts resenting everyone who doesn't fall in love with their sport.

2-The overt racism fans in Europe demonstrate during games i.e. 20,000 people in Germany making baboon noises when a black player has the ball. Anyone who watched the episode of "Real Sports" on HBO knows what I'm talking about. And this doesn't even take into account the poor bastard from Columbia a few years back that screwed up in a match and ended up dead or the never ending violence we've already seen in this year's World Cup and every WC before that. As a hardcore NFL fan I would be embarassed if this was going on in the sport I love, yet soccer enthusiasts here in the US either don't know about it or ignore it.

 

[primetime]

Have you ever seen a girls soccer game? Talk about wasting large patches of perfectly good grass.

Watch girls lacrosse. It makes girls soccer seem 1000x times more exciting by comparison. They can't check so they just run with the ball up and down the field and shoot. Add to this that there's no shot clock as in men's lacrosse. I've seen a goalie hold the ball for literally an entire half after her team went up 2-0. Yeah, what a brilliant game.

 

[Seymour93]

2-The overt racism fans in Europe demonstrate during games i.e. 20,000 people in Germany making baboon noises when a black player has the ball. Anyone who watched the episode of "Real Sports" on HBO knows what I'm talking about.

Actually that happened in Spain and since then FIFA and the Spanish Football Association have taken measures to combat racism, including fines and forcing the home team to play in an empty stadium. Kick Racism Out of Football

And for the thread starter, watch this pansy tackle...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dBjy4jO-Dd4&search=solskjaer tackle

 

[AllabouttheVinces]

And for the thread starter, watch this pansy tackle...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dBjy4jO-Dd4&search=solskjaer tackle

Nice! Good closing speed...and he caught him before the penalty area. A bit reminiscent of Ben Watson coming clear across the field against Denver for a saving tackle. Too bad the ref blew the call on that one - I still say it was in the end zone for a touchback.

 

[OldEnglandPatriot]

Unless someone has something original or genuinely funny to say, I just don't see the need to play 'my sport's better than yours' or more pathetically 'your sport is no good because it's for pansies'.

It must be one of the least productive discussions in all of sports.

Football is a great sport. It combines strategy, brute strength, grace, speed, overweight players, bravery, athleticism in a mix that is unrivalled in any other game.

Soccer is also a great sport. It's simple, elegant, can be played without tons of equipment or elaborate gameplanning, can be excelled at whether short or tall, skinny or 'built'.

I love them both.

 

[PatsSteve1]

Unless someone has something original or genuinely funny to say, I just don't see the need to play 'my sport's better than yours' or more pathetically 'your sport is no good because it's for pansies'.

It must be one of the least productive discussions in all of sports.

* I agree. I love football, but I enjoy soccer, too. Having been to some matches in person, you really see the skill of players better in person. That's true of most sports anyway although baseball, to me, isn't much better in person than TV. I went to some WC ganes in Orlando when it was in the US and liked watching it even though it was mid summer in the middle of the day and hotter than hell. You could see it affected players. Everyone has their preferences with sports and just about evrything else. Some people actually like watching golf on TV -

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Actually that happened in Spain and since then FIFA and the Spanish Football Association have taken measures to combat racism, including fines and forcing the home team to play in an empty stadium. Kick Racism Out of Football

And for the thread starter, watch this pansy tackle...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dBjy4jO-Dd4&search=solskjaer tackle

No, there have been similar incidents in Germany and Great Britain as well. It's not isolated to Spain.

The guy has excellent speed but I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be impressed by him tripping up another dude.

 

[Seymour93]

No, there have been similar incidents in Germany and Great Britain as well. It's not isolated to Spain.

On a large scale? Maybe in Germany, although I doubt it, and definitely not in Britain within the past 15 years or else I would've heard about it. A year or two ago some idiot threw a banana on the pitch at a black goalkeeper in the lower leagues and Dwight Yorke was racially abused by two ********s at Blackburn but that's it. Unlike in Spain, those were isolated incidents and stuff like that is bound to happen anywhere including our country. For example, after a girls high school basketball game in the 2004/05 season some students of an all white school in my district were accused of laying stuffed monkeys with banana skins around the locker rooms of a predominantly black team. There were calls by the local media and outraged citizens to ban the accusers' high school from the playoffs, but nothing was done by the authorities.

Besides Spain, the only other major Western European country that has a problem with racism in football is Italy. Black players there have been racially abused by more than one or two asshats in the crowd on multiple occasions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/africa/4476412.stm

The guy has excellent speed but I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be impressed by him tripping up another dude.

Tripping, tackling, whatever... It was meant to show the thread starter that soccer is not a game for pansies.

 

[Bostonian1962]

I would rather watch two flies making out.

Another reason to be thankful that we are Americans.

Who wouldn't? You ever seen two common house flies lock lips? HOT!!!!!