OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[sb1]

Some people would perceive it that way, others would point to the unblemished 4-0 Montana record. A super bowl loss is a big knock on any QB.

6 gold medals and 3 silvers >>>> 4 gold medals and 0 silvers

 

[Jangles]

He went 11-5 with a QB who hadn't started a game since HS. Case closed.

Imagine actually posting this low iq take

 

[sb1]

Bucs are going to lose some pieces too in FA, which is going to help

Maybe but the Pats need a lot of things to go right this offseason to be able to hang with the top teams in this league next season. The difference between Buffalo and us right now is like night and day.

Hopefully it does.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

"2015 Peyton Manning won a title"

Actually, the 2015 Broncos carried the corpse of a hall of fame quarterback to a title. Had he started all of those games, that team doesn't even make the playoffs. I'm not sure I recall a team that won a SB having to overcome such terrible QB play in my life. If you've seriously come so far as to use that as your argument for Brady "needing to prove he can win with another team" you're a certified moron.

Manning also led the Broncos to a super bowl appearance after having an MVP year. Point is that those QBs I've cited (Manning, Warner, Favre, and Montana) took their new teams deep into the playoffs.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Bucs are going to lose some pieces too in FA, which is going to help

Like who? Idk about that. I see them keeping Godwin. I don’t think the cap will be 174 or 176. I think it will be a little higher.

 

[Tottie]

Manning also led the Broncos to a super bowl appearance after having an MVP year. Point is that those QBs I've cited (Manning, Warner, Favre, and Montana) took their new teams deep into the playoffs.

You have no point. You are all over the map with your random opinions. Now manning gets credit for losing a Superbowl but if Brady loses it's bust. Maybe BB can put on the ol' pads and step in at QB.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Some people would perceive it that way, others would point to the unblemished 4-0 Montana record. A super bowl loss is a big knock on any QB.

How did Montana do in his 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th Superbowls?

 

[sb1]

You have no point. You are all over the map with your random opinions. Now manning gets credit for losing a Superbowl but if Brady loses it's bust. Maybe BB can put on the ol' pads and step in at QB.

That would probably be an improvement over our QBs in 2020.

 

[jal]

Can we move away from the Brady vs. Belichick discussion in this thread? There's literally another thread with that as the subject matter. I'd rather focus this thread on discussing Brady and the Bucs, who have a playoff game upcoming that would be interesting to discuss.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You have no point. You are all over the map with your random opinions. Now manning gets credit for losing a Superbowl but if Brady loses it's bust. Maybe BB can put on the ol' pads and step in at QB.

No, you're just slow. Manning is not heralded as the GOAT, whereas Brady is. Manning being 2-2 or 2-3 in the SBs isn't going to make much of a difference. If Brady loses another, he'd be a lot closer to being .500 in the big game, which for some people may be an issue as far as his legacy.

 

[PatsWSB47]

No, you're just slow. Manning is not heralded as the GOAT, whereas Brady is. Manning being 2-2 or 2-3 in the SBs isn't going to make much of a difference. If Brady loses another, he'd be a lot closer to being .500 in the big game, which for some people may be an issue as far as his legacy.

Jesus, he will have been in 10 Superbowls. Are you an idi....nevermind

 

[sb1]

No, you're just slow. Manning is not heralded as the GOAT, whereas Brady is. Manning being 2-2 or 2-3 in the SBs isn't going to make much of a difference. If Brady loses another, he'd be a lot closer to being .500 in the big game, which for some people may be an issue as far as his legacy.

Only for the likes of the Max Kellermans and Nick Wrights of the media

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Like who? Idk about that. I see them keeping Godwin. I don’t think the cap will be 174 or 176. I think it will be a little higher.

Shaq Barrett, Fournette, Gronk, Brown, Suh, and David will all be free agents to name a few

Which Tampa Bay Buccaneers are set to hit free agency in 2021?

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are closing in on a playoff berth for the first time in more than a decade, but some of their key players are only under contract through the 2020 season. Some of the team's biggest names on both sides of the ball are currently set to hit free…

bucswire.usatoday.com

 

[Tottie]

No, you're just slow. Manning is not heralded as the GOAT, whereas Brady is. Manning being 2-2 or 2-3 in the SBs isn't going to make much of a difference. If Brady loses another, he'd be a lot closer to being .500 in the big game, which for some people may be an issue as far as his legacy.

If the SB was some game that everyone played once a year you'd have a minor point. You have TO GET THERE!!!!!!! You don't just APPEAR IN THE SB!!! You need to battle through the playoffs and GET THERE!!!

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Jesus, he will have been in 10 Superbowls. Are you an idi....nevermind

I said it will be an issue for SOME. I didn't say me necessarily. Who's the idiot again who can't read?

 

[venecol]

imagine actually thinking that it’s better to lose earlier in the playoffs. this is the most stupid argument in any sport

Keep in mind who you're replying to: stupid is as stupid does.

 

[jal]

I don't think it's all gravy for Brady - he probably has to at least win this Washington game and play well in the playoffs to truly dispel doubters (at least in the near-term...time tends to give people more perspective). Obviously if he wins it all, might as well throw away the debate.

Regardless, to me his physical standard of play this year was more than enough to show that his qualities are highly portable to other teams.

 

[203Pat]

Some people would perceive it that way, others would point to the unblemished 4-0 Montana record. A super bowl loss is a big knock on any QB.

This post does it. The trolling is out of control. How this buffoon hasn't been banned from this thread is beyond me.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

If the SB was some game that everyone played once a year you'd have a minor point. You have TO GET THERE!!!!!!! You don't just APPEAR IN THE SB!!! You need to battle through the playoffs and GET THERE!!!

Manning was certainly derided for his poor performance in SB 48, and no one here gave him any credit for reaching the Super Bowl. The reality is no one gets credit for being a runner up in this world.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Shaq Barrett, Fournette, Gronk, Brown, Suh, and David will all be free agents to name a few

Which Tampa Bay Buccaneers are set to hit free agency in 2021?

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are closing in on a playoff berth for the first time in more than a decade, but some of their key players are only under contract through the 2020 season. Some of the team's biggest names on both sides of the ball are currently set to hit free…

bucswire.usatoday.com

They can sign a couple of those guys. They will lose some but they’re in better cap shape than the saints.