OT: Cam Robinson traded to the Browns

[Rob0729]

I was hesitant to start a new thread for this, but since a lot of people including myself wanted the Pats to sign this guy in the offseason I thought it was worth the thread. A month in and the Texans see him as expendable. Probably a good thing the Patriots passed and drafted Will Campbell instead.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Texans are making this move because their second round pick - Aireontae Ersery - beat him out for the LT spot and CLE was willing to make the trade since they view Cam Robinson as an upgrade for their starting LT spot.

Will Campbell is justifying the pick by playing well, but I wouldn't use this move as validation of the pick. In fact, it's more accurately used in favor of those who wanted to pass on Campbell if we're being totally honest. CLE is acquiring a player who was available in free agency because they view him as a viable starter and HOU is willing to give him up because they view a guy drafted in the 2nd round as a viable starter. For people who didn't want to invest such a high pick in WC, this is two NFL teams offering validation to the idea of two of the possible lower investment alternatives to fill our need there.

 

[farn]

People jumped on the Texans as the new darlings. But impatience is prevalent. To anoint in year one is insane.

 

[Rob0729]

Texans are making this move because their second round pick - Aireontae Ersery - beat him out for the LT spot and CLE was willing to make the trade since they view Cam Robinson as an upgrade for their starting LT spot.

Will Campbell is justifying the pick by playing well, but I wouldn't use this move as validation of the pick. In fact, it's more accurately used in favor of those who wanted to pass on Campbell if we're being totally honest. CLE is acquiring a player who was available in free agency because they view him as a viable starter and HOU is willing to give him up because they view a guy drafted in the 2nd round as a viable starter. For people who didn't want to invest such a high pick in WC, this is two NFL teams offering validation to the idea of two of the possible lower investment alternatives to fill our need there.

I used Campbell as validation the Pats were right to pass on Robinson. Whether you agree with the Campbell pick, he is a big upgrade over Robinson.

 

[VrabelJr]

People jumped on the Texans as the new darlings. But impatience is prevalent. To anoint in year one is insane.

Same mistake people on this forum are making by caring too much about our record this year.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Texans are making this move because their second round pick - Aireontae Ersery - beat him out for the LT spot and CLE was willing to make the trade since they view Cam Robinson as an upgrade for their starting LT spot.

Will Campbell is justifying the pick by playing well, but I wouldn't use this move as validation of the pick. In fact, it's more accurately used in favor of those who wanted to pass on Campbell if we're being totally honest. CLE is acquiring a player who was available in free agency because they view him as a viable starter and HOU is willing to give him up because they view a guy drafted in the 2nd round as a viable starter. For people who didn't want to invest such a high pick in WC, this is two NFL teams offering validation to the idea of two of the possible lower investment alternatives to fill our need there.

I don't really think this counts as support for passing on Campbell, given that Houston is eating $9M in dead cap and getting a 2027 6 for Robinson and their 2027 7. Moreover CLE is only paying $2M(ish) for him.

 

[KCSVEN]

Texans are making this move because their second round pick - Aireontae Ersery - beat him out for the LT spot and CLE was willing to make the trade since they view Cam Robinson as an upgrade for their starting LT spot.

Ersery eventually beat him out as Robinson started game 1, got hurt, they moved Ersery to LT from RT.
At RT Ersery struggled horrifically and they decided he needed to play his natural LT position. He hasn't been great there but better than RT by a mile. He was Jacobs level bad at RT.
At this point they decided to stick with him over Robinson and Robinson wanted to start, thus the trade.

Robinson was a 1-year deal and Texans clearly thought he was not playing well, and he's also never played RT. Ersery also can't play RT so made sense to develop Ersery at LT for the future.

So rather than keep a disgruntled guy on the bench they traded him.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Cleveland could have had Robinson during free agency but didn't want him until they had an injury and were desperate. And Now the Texans are selling low, eating cap for not much of a draft pick because they knew he wasn't very good. That sounds to me more like an argument for why you spend high and get the best LT in the draft and are set for years.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Journeyman.

 

[n1997y]

Texans are making this move because their second round pick - Aireontae Ersery - beat him out for the LT spot and CLE was willing to make the trade since they view Cam Robinson as an upgrade for their starting LT spot.

Will Campbell is justifying the pick by playing well, but I wouldn't use this move as validation of the pick. In fact, it's more accurately used in favor of those who wanted to pass on Campbell if we're being totally honest. CLE is acquiring a player who was available in free agency because they view him as a viable starter and HOU is willing to give him up because they view a guy drafted in the 2nd round as a viable starter. For people who didn't want to invest such a high pick in WC, this is two NFL teams offering validation to the idea of two of the possible lower investment alternatives to fill our need there.

Hunh? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

You’re saying having a mediocre journeyman OT dumped at a financial loss in midseason somehow is an argument in favor of passing on an elite rookie LT prospect in the draft?

I think you’ve made the mistake of conflating “possibly barely good enough to get by as a viable starter” and “elite” as being the same.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The Browns being the Browns. Trading to actually make themselves worse than they already are. There's a good reason Robinson is always on the move, he sucks.

 

[Bill Lee]

For people who didn't want to invest such a high pick in WC, this is two NFL teams offering validation to the idea of two of the possible lower investment alternatives to fill our need there.

To me this is splitting hairs. For us LT was a position of need, and for everyone it's a premium position. We could have played around with the 'possible' lower investments but the reality is all we needed to do was hit on a quality starter and it'd all be worth it, and it looks like we did. On top of his play on the field, it's clear he's a high character guy with lots of leadership potential. I really hope no one is losing sleep over this pick.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

To me this is splitting hairs. For us LT was a position of need, and for everyone it's a premium position. We could have played around with the 'possible' lower investments but the reality is all we needed to do was hit on a quality starter and it'd all be worth it, and it looks like we did. On top of his play on the field, it's clear he's a high character guy with lots of leadership potential. I really hope no one is losing sleep over this pick.

Hell, one of the major reasons Belichick no longer has a job is that he insisted, for at least a couple of years, that the LTs available in the draft and in FA were overrated. . . .