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Yeah, instead Kraft picks his head coach based on how good he makes him feel during a spiritual trip to Israel.

What’s the difference, really?

Mayo was a legitimate head coaching candidate. Other teams wanted to interview him. The general feeling is (or was) he is going to be a good head coach some day. There is some logic behind making him the heir apparent. And let's face it, Belichick sped up the ascension.
 
Agreed that I am making assumptions, if they do can him then I would be eating some crow.

Kraft traded Drew and Brady, two people he said were like sons.

He admitted a mistake, and fired Pete to hire Bill after passing up on him initially.

That's why I think Vrabel's coming. Very similar situations.
 
My bad. Every thread turns into a Kraft/Mayo discussion.
 
Mayo was a legitimate head coaching candidate. Other teams wanted to interview him. The general feeling is (or was) he is going to be a good head coach some day. There is some logic behind making him the heir apparent. And let's face it, Belichick sped up the ascension.
In my opinion… not to be rude… but Mayo was getting those opportunities to fill the “checkmark” for the Rooney Rule. I don’t think any team was actually very interested in bringing him on, but it was enough to make Kraft panic and put a succession clause in his contract.
 
My bad. Every thread turns into a Kraft/Mayo discussion.
Good point, and it’s partially my fault. Let’s get it back on track.

Jete suck, Rodgers sucks, they’ll be worse next year with Sexy Rexy
 
If Rodgers is back with the Jets next year (the Jets might not be able to afford to cut him), Garrett Wilson might ask for a trade. Wilson hates Rodgers. Imagine the Jets losing one of the better WRs in the league over keeping this over the hill washed out diva.


As good as Wilson is, and as questionable a character as Rodgers is, I will always blame the WR in these situations. Do what the QB wants you to do. Don't freelance on the QB. If he tells you where to be or how to get open, DO IT! Only the QB knows what it takes to get you the ball in the optimal position. This makes me think much less of Garrett Wilson.
 
As good as Wilson is, and as questionable a character as Rodgers is, I will always blame the WR in these situations. Do what the QB wants you to do. Don't freelance on the QB. If he tells you where to be or how to get open, DO IT! Only the QB knows what it takes to get you the ball in the optimal position. This makes me think much less of Garrett Wilson.
Is it actually about on-field stuff, though, or is it personal?

Rodgers got plenty of production out of Wilson. Seems more like Wilson just hates Rodgers as a person.
 
Is it actually about on-field stuff, though, or is it personal?

Rodgers got plenty of production out of Wilson. Seems more like Wilson just hates Rodgers as a person.
I can't imagine why?

 
It’s worse with Mayo.

The Jets do have talent and already fired their coach AND GM. They’ll replace both in a few weeks and there will be a reason to think things will improve.

With the Pats, they have almost no talent and the coach and GM are unqualified idiots who the ownership seems dead set on keeping just to stroke their own ego.

So sad to say it but the Jets have it better.
Disagree entirely, the Jets have put all of thier chips into a 2 year window and one was Arod out for the season 5 mins in and the other he got old and looks pathetic. Have you seen thier cap situation? They are F#$%ed for the next 3 years. So that young "talent" they currently have will be gone when its time to resign them. I also question how talented they actually are when they've only won 4 games. More names, noise, and ratings then substance which sums up the Jete in a nutshell. They suck. Always have, always will.

At least with the patriots there is hope it can turn around. The resources are there. Will they blow it? Probably, the leadership has been really bad for years now but at least a path to relevance is visable and viable. 11 out of 10 times i would rather be in the patriots situation over the jets paying old broken players to not play for your team.
 
In my opinion… not to be rude… but Mayo was getting those opportunities to fill the “checkmark” for the Rooney Rule. I don’t think any team was actually very interested in bringing him on, but it was enough to make Kraft panic and put a succession clause in his contract.

Usually guys to fill the Rooney Rule are eventually hired for head coaching positions for the most part. The guys brought in for the Rooney Rule are not just random minority coaches. They are usually good coaches getting more exposure before they are eventually hired. There are plenty of minority coaches that do not get interviews.
 
Is it actually about on-field stuff, though, or is it personal?

Rodgers got plenty of production out of Wilson. Seems more like Wilson just hates Rodgers as a person.
I mean, Im not going to defend Rodgers' personality, since I think a lot of these QBs including Brady are schmucks.

I'd never want to hang around with Rodgers, Favre, Brady, Manning, Marino, etc. They've proven to be first class dopes.

Maybe Bradshaw and Joe Kapp. I'd have dinner with them.

But it's very hard to find a normal human being when it comes to QBs.

That being said, Rodgers being high on mushrooms may be a sad look for many but so was Brady crying about all the hurt being drafted late caused his parents.
 
I wonder if anyone has ever existed who wasn't a fan of a team Rodgers played for that liked him? Brees. Brady, Manning... these guys were all likable in their own way. Rodgers just has a big ick factor to him which his fans try to ignore.
 
Is it actually about on-field stuff, though, or is it personal?

Rodgers got plenty of production out of Wilson. Seems more like Wilson just hates Rodgers as a person.

As good as Wilson is, and as questionable a character as Rodgers is, I will always blame the WR in these situations. Do what the QB wants you to do. Don't freelance on the QB. If he tells you where to be or how to get open, DO IT! Only the QB knows what it takes to get you the ball in the optimal position. This makes me think much less of Garrett Wilson.

From what I have seen, this is a Rodgers issue. Also, since Adams was traded, Rodgers has been shutting out Wilson. Here is a video from SNY showing how it seems to be more about Rodgers than Wilson. Looks like Rodgers is only throwing to Wilson during the scripted plays and once Rodgers has more leeway of who to throw to, Rodgers shuts out Wilson and only throws to Adams.

 
From what I have seen, this is a Rodgers issue. Also, since Adams was traded, Rodgers has been shutting out Wilson. Here is a video from SNY showing how it seems to be more about Rodgers than Wilson. Looks like Rodgers is only throwing to Wilson during the scripted plays and once Rodgers has more leeway of who to throw to, Rodgers shuts out Wilson and only throws to Adams.


I'm not sure how any of this changes what I was saying though. They are not on the same page. It's Wilson's job to get on Rodgers' page. It's the WRs duty.
 
It’s worse with Mayo.

The Jets do have talent and already fired their coach AND GM. They’ll replace both in a few weeks and there will be a reason to think things will improve.

With the Pats, they have almost no talent and the coach and GM are unqualified idiots who the ownership seems dead set on keeping just to stroke their own ego.

So sad to say it but the Jets have it better.

The reason the Jets have better talent is because they spent years at the bottom, and were able to get Garrett Wilson, Quinnen Williams, etc….yet they still unable to win despite adding their HOF QB. I agree that they have better talent, but they still grossly underperform year after year. The Patriots just arrived at the bottom, and I agree that Mayo isn’t the answer at Head Coach, but the lack of talent on this team is not due to Eliot Wolf’s decisions, and he got them their franchise QB in his first draft. I don’t like the idea of one and done for any coach, but there are always exceptions, and for Mayo to turn in a worse performance than the 23’ team is unacceptable. Especially when it was the defense that cost them games they should have won. I was willing to give the defense some slack when Mac Jones was leaving them on the field 3/4 of the time, but they actually got worse under Mayo and his coaching staff. He would have had a better argument for staying on had the defense improved under him, but he has no argument when the entire team played worse, despite the efforts of the rookie QB.

It takes time to build a long term contender, but you no longer have any time as far as fans are concerned, they want instant success, and nothing else will do. If you have the owners support and confidence in your plan you stick to it, no matter how much the fans *****, moan, and cry. If you don’t then you start acting like the fans, make decisions based upon desperation, and end up with a mediocre team that has already maxed out its cap space on mediocre players. And then the fans deny with every fiber of their being that they wanted the mediocre players the team is saddled with, and run the GM out of town.

I’m hoping they bite the bullet and make the necessary coaching changes, but they better get it right this time, and find a coach they can stick with long term. I think Wolf should be given at least 2 more years to implement his plan for rebuilding this team, but this offseason is likely to be make or break for him.
 
Rodgers did the honorable thing
 
Doubtful it will be the Raiders when Adams just left there to join him on the Jets.
Niners makes a lot of sense, if they decide to cut bait with Purdy. Although I think Purdy is better but he will cost a lot to extend.
 
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