PostGame Thread Official Post Game Thread: Pats destroy the Browns

[sb1]

Rex Ryan: "Bill Belichick... this is the best job he's ever done coaching"

Ryan Clark loves him some Pats

 

[mgcolby]

This team if not for the Miami blunder would control it's own destiny for HFA. Looking at Tennessee's schedule it's somewhat hard to envision them dropping a game to any one but us. But given the way things have played out over the past few weeks serves as a reminder of any given Sunday.

With that said if NE holds court and wins out they win the division and have an outside shot at the 1 seed. (Using the assumption the Pats win the non Buf and Ten games.) If they beat Ten and split with the Bills they still have a good shot at the division and the 2 seed.

The folks that overlooked how talented this team was at the beginning of the year are seeing it now. As Rob posted earlier in the thread, and as I stated before, they had to learn how to win. They had to cleanup the uncharacteristic penalties at crucial moments and stop putting the ball on the ground. They seemed to have figured that out.

 

[long distance]

Good performance by our O-line yesterday:

Good might be an understatement . esp. coming from cheerleader

 

[Pape]

What does that have to do with this year’s team? They don’t have Derrick Henry and the Patriots defense is vastly improved over last season. I’m not dismissing Tennessee, they have the best record in the AFC, but what happened in previous meetings really doesn’t have anything to do with this season. Had they beaten them convincingly earlier this season it might be a different story, but this team at this time is completely different.

It has nothing to do with this year's team. It was an attempt to explain to goheels, who I quoted, why the Titans "owned BB for whatever reason" in the last two games. A historical perspective, if you will.

 

[n1997y]

If I saw it correctly, High was the guy in Baker's face when he threw the INT to Dugger.

yes, I think he took advantage of a road grader at nose tackle when Barmore pushed two defenders back into the pocket to clear the way, and then High looped in around him. Baker didn’t have much space or time.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Thats great news, neck and spinal injuries are far and away the most disturbing thing about football. Good to hear it’s not a worst case scenario.

 

[JMC00]

Good might be an understatement . esp. coming from cheerleader

and that win rate wasn't buffed by playing some team like the lions, browns have been the top pass rush, saw they had like a 58% pass-rush win rate

 

[ashley]

T Brown is the man:

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Trent Brown is a moose.

sign his name on pro bowl roster

 

[Rob0729]

Great post. A couple of comments.

Young QBs have a much harder time reading zone defenses.

Couple that with consistent pressure from the front 4/5 and you get what we've seen the last few weeks out of Mayfield, Taylor, Herbert and Darnold.

Hes the better long-term prospect at RB no question. What a great situation they have.

Inexperience. Reading coverages. Reading protections. Checking out of bad plays. No question he has been improving.

See I don't see those as glaring weaknesses though. He does a pretty good job reading coverages and protections especially for a rookie. I am talking about something that if you do it against him and effectively, you can make him play like absolute crap. Again going back to Brady, if you can pressure him a lot up the middle or you are hitting him on every play, he can definitely play awfully. It is really hard to achieve and few teams do, but you know if you are successful at it you know Brady is likely to have a clunker. I don't see that if you really do a great job disguising you coverages or protections that Jones is going to fall apart.

Jones does have a weakness that when it is discovered will be glaring and will be a way to really throw him off his game if done successfully. Every QB has at least one. I don't think we know what it is just yet. I don't see him turtling like Herbert, Darnold, or Mayfield did the last three weeks with disguised coverages and protections.

 

[BTTA]

Anyone who thinks that they current winning streak is because the Pats have adopted a different scheme, or game planning process, or use of their talent, has no idea how the Patriots work.

They are doing EXACTLY what they were doing early in the season: slowly, gradually building out the breadth of their options on the field, and learning how to do that together. This is like learning martial arts - there is a plan, and it starts with very basic stuff and you get your @ss kicked for a while. Then, through discipline and very small incremental gains, turn a corner.

 

[Rob0729]

Rex Ryan: "Bill Belichick... this is the best job he's ever done coaching"

Ryan Clark loves him some Pats

What did Rex say about Jones' pea shooter now?

 

[sb1]

What did Rex say about Jones' pea shooter now?

He still called him a pea shooter

 

[NG Pats Fan]

it’s quite clear mac Jones arm talent was severely underrated by “experts”

he can make any throw with efficiency And he may have the best touch psss in the nfl besides brady

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Trent Brown makes Connor McDermott look like an infant

 

[ashley]

Trent Brown is a moose.

sign his name on pro bowl roster

Some more Trent Brown love, look at this block:

 

[Rob0729]

He still called him a pea shooter

I did watch it. But Rex at least gets it. His arm strength or lack there of is overrated because he as intangibles that makes him special. He even said that Jones has great anticipation and throws the ball before the receiver is open or "throws the receiver open".

 

[RobertWeathers]

See I don't see those as glaring weaknesses though. He does a pretty good job reading coverages and protections especially for a rookie. I am talking about something that if you do it against him and effectively, you can make him play like absolute crap. Again going back to Brady, if you can pressure him a lot up the middle or you are hitting him on every play, he can definitely play awfully. It is really hard to achieve and few teams do, but you know if you are successful at it you know Brady is likely to have a clunker. I don't see that if you really do a great job disguising you coverages or protections that Jones is going to fall apart

Jones does have a weakness that when it is discovered will be glaring and will be a way to really throw him off his game if done successfully. Every QB has at least one. I don't think we know what it is just yet. I don't see him turtling like Herbert, Darnold, or Mayfield did the last three weeks with disguised coverages and protections.

OK let me try to make my point this way.

What was the difference between 2001 Brady, 2007 Brady and 2016 Brady?

 

[sb1]

I did watch it. But Rex at least gets it. His arm strength or lack there of is overrated because he as intangibles that makes him special. He even said that Jones has great anticipation and throws the ball before the receiver is open or "throws the receiver open".

I'm waiting for Ryan Clark to buy a Pats jersey and wear it to these shows. LOL. He's not a guy I would have pegged to fanboi our team...

 

[Sicilian]

Anyone who thinks that they current winning streak is because the Pats have adopted a different scheme, or game planning process, or use of their talent, has no idea how the Patriots work.

They are doing EXACTLY what they were doing early in the season: slowly, gradually building out the breadth of their options on the field, and learning how to do that together. This is like learning martial arts - there is a plan, and it starts with very basic stuff and you get your @ss kicked for a while. Then, through discipline and very small incremental gains, turn a corner.

My instructor used to teach forms that way. He'd show me the first four moves of it, and make me do them OVER AND OVER until they were perfect. Then he'd give me the next two, and I'd do the first six moves OVER AND OVER. It was infuriating at times, but by the end there was no doubt you knew the form.