NFL Week 9 Thread (with TV Maps)

[jmt57]

Week 9 NFL Maps are out. As is always the case, some stations can and will change the game they decide to air between now and Sunday.

H/T to JP Kirby at 506 Sports for taking the time to put this together.

National Broadcasts:

• Thursday Night: 1-6 Oakland @ 1-7 San Francisco (Fox/NFLN)

• Sunday Night: 3-3-1 Green Bay @ 6-2 New England (NBC)

• Monday Night: 3-4 Tennessee @ 3-4 Dallas (espn)

CBS Single Game

Early:
Red: 4-2-1 Pittsburgh @ 4-4 Baltimore; Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts
Blue: 7-1 Kansas City @ 2-5-1 Cleveland; Greg Gumbel, Trent Green, Bruce Arians
Yellow: 3-5 NY Jets @ 4-4 Miami; Andrew Catalon, James Lofton
Late:
Green: 5-2 LA Chargers @ 4-3 Seattle; Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon
Orange: 5-3 Houston @ 3-5 Denver; Tom McCarthy, Steve Beuerlein

Fox Early Game

Red: 3-4 Atlanta @ 5-2 Washington; Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis
Blue: 3-4 Detroit @ 4-3-1 Minnesota; Thom Brennaman, Chris Spielman
Green: 4-3 Chicago @ 2-6 Buffalo; Chris Myers, Daryl Johnston
Yellow: 3-4 Tampa Bay @ 5-2 Carolina; Kenny Albert, Ronde Barber
Gray: NO GAME due to local home game on CBS

Fox Late Game

Red: 8-0 LA Rams @ 6-1 New Orleans; Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
Gray: NO GAME due to local home game on CBS


Week Nine Odds as of Wednesday Night
(Give or take a half point depending on where you shop)
Raiders at Niners (-2½), [45½]
Lions at Vikings (-4½), [49]
Chiefs (-8½) at Browns, [51½]
Steelers at Ravens (-3), [47½]
Buccaneers at Panthers (-6½), [55]
Jets at Dolphins (-3); [45]
Falcons at Redskins (-1½), [47]
Bears (-10) at Bills, [37½]
Texans at Broncos (-1), [46]
Chargers at Seahawks (-1½), [48]
Rams at Saints (-1½), [59½]
Packers at Patriots (-5½), [57]
Titans at Cowboys (-6½), [41]


Bye Week:
5-3 Bengals
4-4 Eagles
3-5 Colts
3-5 Jaguars
2-6 Cardinals
1-7 Giants

 

[Wheelman]

I'm rooting for every fan not to show up at any stadium, not to tune in to any game and take a stand against the corrupt 32. What else would I root for?

 

[FortressX]

Chargers/Seattle should not be on so early.
Very unfair to West Coast.

I wonder what kind of ratings Fox will get for their late game ?
Will they beat Pats/Packers ratings ?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Cleveland kc is the clear game of interest for us, but obviously not getting my hopes up there. Stranger things have happened though and it is a post shakeup game so we’ll see how fired up they are in Cleveland.

Wonder which steelers team shows up in Baltimore, those are always fun to watch. Its a bigger game for Baltimore, if they fall to 4-5 their season is in jeopardy given how inconsistent they are.

Rams saints the marquis game of the season to date, the rams have been flirting with that first loss for a few weeks now, I think this week is where it happens but I still have the rams as nfc favorites.

I am a redskins fan this year, would love to see The eagles watching the playoffs from the local chuck e cheese

 

[DarrylS]

Oakland Vs. San Francisco, probably the worse matchup prime time ever... one thing for sure that media darling mediocre coach, John Gruden, will be working on some idiotic snippets that the press will fawn over...

 

[jmt57]

Way-too-early playoff picture from playoffstatus.com.

Patriots:

• 26% probability of #1 seed
• 32% probability of #2 seed [ie, 58% probability of bye]
• 17% for #3, 10% for #4 [ie, 85% probability of winning AFC East]
• 8% probability of making playoffs as wild card, 8% for missing playoffs.
• Pats magic number for winning the division is now five.

Elsewhere in AFC:

• Six teams (Raiders, Bills, Browns, Jets, Broncos, Jaguars) already have a probability of 90% or more of missing the playoffs.
• Four other teams have a probability of 64% or more of missing the playoffs: Colts (84%), Titans (73%), Dolphins (68%) and Ravens (64%).
• The 2nd place Chargers (73%) have a higher probability of making the playoffs than 1st place Houston (69%) or 1st place Cincinnati (67%).

4-4 AFC teams currently on the outside looking in:

• Baltimore plays Pittsburgh on Sunday. Currently the Ravens are given a 17% chance of winning the AFC North, 19% of being a wild card, and 64% chance of missing the playoffs. A win increases their odds of making the playoffs to 45%, while a loss drops that probability to 23%.
• Miami is generously given a 12% chance of winning the AFC East, and 32% probability of making the playoffs. A loss to the Jets would drop their playoff chances to 19%.

NFC

• The Rams have a 99+% probability of making the playoffs and 97% chance of winning their division, with half the regular season games yet to be played.
• The Saints (88%) and Redskins (82%) are near locks to make the playoffs.
• Half the conference have been given a 79% probability or greater of missing the playoffs. That list includes the last two NFC champions, Philly and Atlanta.
• The Cardinals, Niners and Giants are all given a less than 1% chance of making the playoffs.

NFC South

• 6-1 New Orleans is graded as having a 64% probability of winning the division and 25% chance of being a wild card.
• Carolina is one game behind at 5-2, but their odds are only 31% for winning the NFCS and 67% for making the playoffs.
• A loss to the Bucs drops Carolina's playoff probability to 55%.

NFC North

• 4-3 Chicago is given a 36% probability to win the division and 50% odds to make the playoffs.
• If the Bears beat Buffalo their playoff odds increase to 57%. A loss to the Bills coupled with wins by Green Bay and Washington decreases Chicago's playoff chances to 41%.
• 4-3-1 Minnesota: 32% probability to win the division, 44% to make the playoffs.
• If the Vikings beat Detroit their playoff odds increase to 51%. A loss to the Lions coupled with a win by Chicago decreases Minnesota's playoff chances to 30%.
• 3-3-1 Green Bay: 20% probability to win the division, 33% to make the playoffs.
• If the Packers beat New England their playoff odds increase to 44%. A loss to the Patriots coupled with Chicago and Minnesota victories decreases Green Bay's playoff chances to 36%.
• 3-4 Detroit: 11% probability to win the division, 15% to make the playoffs.
• If the Lions beat Minnesota their playoff odds increase to 20%. A loss coupled with victories by Chicago and Green Bay decreases Detroit's playoff chances to 8%.

 

[jmt57]

Some NFL offensive team stats and rankings through eight weeks:

Scoring Offense​

Points Per Game:
1.) 36.2 - Chiefs
2.) 33.4 - Saints
3.) 33.0 - Rams
4.) 29.9 - Patriots
5.) 29.1 - Steelers
32.) 10.9 - Bills

Average Scoring Margin:
1.) +13.6 - Rams
2.) +10.6 - Chiefs
3.) +7.5 - Ravens
4.) +7.3 - Saints
5.) +7.1 - Bears
6) +6.8 - Patriots
32.) -14.1 - Bills

Touchdowns per Game:
1.) 4.5 - Chiefs
2.) 3.9 - Saints
3.) 3.8 - Rams
4.) 3.7 - Steelers
5.) 3.6 - Buccaneers
6.) 3.5 - Bengals
7.) 3.4 - Patriots
32.) 0.9 - Bills

Red Zone TD Scores per Game:
1.) 3.2 - Chiefs
2.) 3.1 - Saints
3.) 2.9 - Rams
4.) 2.6 - Colts, Ravens
6.) 2.5 - Bengals
7.) 2.4 - Patriots
32.) 0.8 - Bills

Red Zone TD Scoring Percentage:
1.) 77% - Bengals
2.) 75% - Steelers
3.) 74% - Seahawks
4.) 72% - Ravens
5.) 70% - Chiefs
6.) 70% - Falcons
7.) 67% - Panthers, Saints
9.) 66% - Patriots
32.) 37% - Jets

Yards per Point (Offense Efficiency):
1.) 11.7 - Saints
2.) 11.7 - Chiefs
3.) 12.5 - Bengals
4.) 12.8 - Patriots
5.) 13.1 - Jets
32.) 22.7 - Bills

Yards per Point Margin:
1.) +5.1 - Chiefs
2.) +3.8 - Patriots
3.) +3.7 - Rams
4.) +3.7 - Seahawks
5.) +2.7 - Bengals
32.) -9.5 - Bills

Points per Play (Offense Efficiency):
1.) .586 - Chiefs
2.) .520 - Saints
3.) .503 - Rams
4.) .477 - Chargers
5.) .459 - Bengals
6.) .448 - Patriots
32.) .181 - Bills

Total Offense​

Yards per Game:
1.) 468 - Buccaneers
2.) 443 - Rams
3.) 425 - Chiefs
4.) 418 - Steelers
5.) 412 - Packers
11.) 382 - Patriots
32.) 233 - Cardinals

First Downs per Game:
1.) 25.9 - Buccaneers
2.) 25.2 - Rams
3.) 24.4 - Saints
4.) 24.1 - Chiefs
5.) 23.9 - Steelers, Ravens
11.) 22.4 - Patriots
32.) 13.8 - Cardinals

Third Down Conversions per Game:
1.) 7.5 - Colts
2.) 7.0 - Ravens
3.) 6.6 - Falcons
4.) 6.4 - Jaguars
5.) 5.9 - Bears
9.) 5.4 - Patriots
32.) 3.0 - Cardinals

Third Down Conversion Percentage:
1.) 52.2% - Colts
2.) 50.0% - Falcons
3.) 47.1% - Chiefs
4.) 47.0% - Buccaneers
5.) 46.7% - Ravens
10.) 43.0% - Patriots
32.) 26.1% - Cardinals

Yards per Play:
1.) 6.9 - Chargers
2.) 6.9 - Chiefs
3.) 6.8 - Buccaneers
4.) 6.7 - Rams
5.) 6.3 - Falcons
15.) 5.7 - Patriots
32.) 4.1 - Bills

Punts per Offensive Score:
1.) 0.4 - Saints
2.) 0.4 - Chiefs
3.) 0.5 - Rams
4.) 0.7 - Colts
5.) 0.7 - Patriots
32.) 2.6 - Cardinals

 

[jmt57]

More team stats via TeamRankings.com:

Scoring Defense​

Points per Game
1.) 17.1 - Ravens
2.) 17.6 - Cowboys
3.) 18.1 - Titans
4.) 18.7 - Seahawks
5.) 19.1 - Redskins
12.) 23.1 - Patriots
32.) 33.3 - Buccaneers

Touchdowns per Game:
1.) 1.9 - Titans, Cowboys, Ravens
4.) 2.0 - Jaguars, Eagles
6.) 2.1 - Texans, Rams, Seahawks
9.) 2.4 - Redskins, Bears
11.) 2.5 - Patriots, Giants, Vikings
32.) 4.3 - Buccaneers

Red Zone TD Scores per Game:
1.) 0.9 - Titans
2.) 1.0 - Cowboys
3.) 1.3 - Bears
4.) 1.4 - Jaguars, Rams
16.) 1.9 - Patriots, Packers, Broncos, Panthers, Texans, Cardinals
32.) 3.3 - Falcons

Red Zone TD Scoring Percentage:
1.) 33% - Titans
2.) 37% - Cowboys
3.) 41% - Eagles
4.) 43% - Giants
5.) 43% - Vikings
14.) 57% - Patriots
32.) 88% - Buccaneers

Yards per Point (Defense Efficiency):
1.) 18.7 - Titans
2.) 18.1 - Eagles
3.) 17.9 - Cowboys
4.) 17.5 - Seahawks
5.) 17.2 - Ravens
9.) 16.6 - Patriots
32.) 12.5 - Buccaneers

Points per Play (Defense Efficiency):
1.) .274 - Ravens
2.) .287 - Cowboys
3.) .294 - Titans
4.) .309 - Seahawks
5.) .313 - Redskins
11.) .350 - Patriots
32.) .525 - Buccaneers

Total Defense​

Yards per Game:
1.) 294 - Ravens
2.) 313 - Jaguars
3.) 314 - Cowboys
4.) 322 - Redskins
5.) 327 - Seahawks
25.) 383 - Patriots
32.) 448 - Bengals

First Downs per Game:
1.) 16.9 - Bears
2.) 17.6 - Cowboys, Eagles, Ravens, Rams
6.) 18.0 - Jaguars
7.) 18.2 - Texans
23.) 21.6 - Patriots
32.) 26.2 - Chiefs

Third Down Conversions per Game:
1.) 2.8 - Vikings
2.) 4.0 - Chiefs, Panthers
4.) 4.2 - Eagles, Ravens
26.) 5.6 - Patriots
32.) 8.2 - Bengals

Third Down Conversion Percentage:
1.) 25.6% - Vikings
2.) 31.2% - Ravens
3.) 33.0% - Eagles
4.) 33.0% - Jets
5.) 34.0% - Chiefs
26.) 42.9% - Patriots
32.) 55.9% - Bengals

Yards per Play:
1.) 4.7 - Ravens
2.) 5.0 - Jaguars
3.) 5.1 - Cowboys
4.) 5.1 - Texans
5.) 5.2 - Bills
20.) 5.8 - Patriots, Rams
32.) 6.8 - Raiders

Opponent Punts per Offensive Score:
1.) 1.9 - Ravens
2.) 1.6 - Cowboys
3.) 1.4 - Bears
4.) 1.3 - Rams
5.) 1.2 - Texans
21.) 0.9 - Patriots
32.) 0.5 - Bengals

 

[jmt57]

Other Miscellaneous Statistics:​

Turnover Margin per Game:
1.) +1.4 - Seahawks, Browns
3.) +1.0 - Redskins, Bears
5.) +0.9 - Rams, Panthers
10.) +0.4 - Patriots
32.) -1.9 - Forty Niners

Takeaways per Game:
1.) 2.8 - Browns
2.) 2.4 - Bears
3.) 2.3 - Seahawks
4.) 2.0 - Patriots
5.) 2.0 - Colts
32.) 0.6 - Forty Niners

Giveaways per Game:
1.) 0.6 - Falcons
2.) 0.8 - Rams
3.) 0.9 - Chargers, Seahawks, Redskins, Chiefs
7.) 1.0 - Panthers, Saints
23.) 1.6 - Patriots
32.) 2.7 - Buccaneers

Penalties per Game:
1.) 4.8 - Patriots
2.) 4.9 - Titans
3.) 5.1 - Rams, Bears
5.) 5.7 - 49ers, Panthers
32.) 9.4 - Steelers

Penalty Yards per Game:
1.) 37.9 - Patriots
2.) 40.7 - Titans
3.) 42.3 - Bears
4.) 43.6 - Rams
5.) 47.2 - Cardinals
31.) 68.1 - Packers
32.) 84.0 - Steelers

Opponent Penalties per Game:
1.) 8.4 - Steelers
2.) 8.2 - Colts
3.) 8.1 - Redskins
4.) 8.0 - Bengals
5.) 7.7 - Buccaneers
22.) 6.1 - Patriots
32.) 4.9 - Packers

Opponent Penalty Yards per Game:
1.) 73.6 - Buccaneers
2.) 73.1 - Colts
3.) 67.9 - Redskins
4.) 66.9 - Ravens
5.) 66.6 - Bengals, Lions
16.) 57.2 - Patriots
32.) 41.0 - Packers

Net Yards per Punt Attempt:
1.) 43.7 - Eagles
2.) 43.7 - Saints
3.) 43.2 - Colts
4.) 42.5 - Seahawks
5.) 42.4 - Chiefs
28.) 37.7 - Patriots
32.) 35.3 - Chargers

Opponent Net Yards per Punt Attempt:
1.) 33.7 - Rams
2.) 34.0 - Chiefs
3.) 35.9 - Dolphins
4.) 36.5 - Saints
5.) 36.7 - Patriots
32.) 44.0 - Buccaneers

Average Starting Field Position (Line of Scrimmage) on Offense:
1.) 31.8 - Saints
2.) 31.5 - Rams
3.) 31.3 - Texans
4.) 30.9 - Chargers
5.) 30.8 - Colts
15.) 29.0 - Patriots
32.) 25.2 - Buccaneers
32-team average: 28.4

Yards per Offensive Drive:
1.) 43.2 - Rams
2.) 42.7 - Chiefs
3.) 41.3 - Saints
4.) 39.5 - Buccaneers
5.) 39.1 - Falcons
9.) 35.8 - Patriots
32.) 20.0 - Bills
32-team average: 32.6

Average Starting Field Position (Line of Scrimmage) on Defense:
1.) 24.8 - Rams
2.) 24.9 - Chiefs
3.) 25.3 - Texans
4.) 25.5 - Saints
5.) 25.9 - Panthers
30.) 31.4 - Patriots
32.) 32.8 - Forty Niners
32-team average: 28.4

Yards Allowed on Defense per Opponent Drive:
1.) 24.6 - Ravens
2.) 27.8 - Texans
3.) 28.4 - Vikings
4.) 28.5 - Browns
5.) 28.6 - Bears
13.) 31.1 - Patriots
32.) 41.5 - Falcons
32-team average: 32.6

Current odds to make it to NFC Championship Game,
per Football Outsiders:
72.2% - Rams
35.4% - Saints
27.9% - Panthers
20.0% - Bears
16.7% - Redskins
8.1% - Seahawks
7.5% - Packers
4.9% - Vikings
3.0% - Cowboys
2.5% - Eagles

Current odds to make it to AFC Championship Game,
per Football Outsiders:
70.7% - Chiefs
43.7% - Patriots
18.1% - Texans
15.9% - Chargers
15.6% - Steelers
12.2% - Ravens
8.5% - Bengals
6.7% - Dolphins
3.1% - Colts
2.3% - Broncos
1.3% - Titans
1.2% - Jaguars

Current odds to win NFCCG and appear in Super Bowl,
per Football Outsiders:
49.3% - Rams
15.1% - Saints
12.0% - Panthers
8.3% - Bears
5.6% - Redskins
3.2% - Seahawks
2.8% - Packers
1.7% - Vikings
0.9% - Cowboys
0.8% - Eagles

Current odds to win AFCCG and appear in Super Bowl,
per Football Outsiders:
49.1% - Chiefs
18.5% - Patriots
7.4% - Chargers
6.6% - Texans
6.0% - Steelers
4.9% - Ravens
2.3% - Dolphins
2.5% - Bengals
1.0% - Colts
0.9% - Broncos
0.4% - Jaguars
0.3% - Titans

Current odds to win the Super Bowl,
per Football Outsiders:
28.0% - Chiefs
27.5% - Rams
8.5% - Patriots
7.0% - Saints
5.5% - Panthers
3.7% - Bears
3.4% - Chargers
2.8% - Texans
2.6% - Steelers
2.1% - Ravens
2.0% - Redskins
1.5% - Seahawks
1.2% - Packers
1.0% - Dolphins
0.9% - Bengals
0.7% - Vikings
0.4% - Colts
0.4% - Broncos
0.3% - Cowboys
0.3% - Eagles
0.1% - Jaguars
0.1% - Titans

 

[Wax Frog]

Rams saints the marquis game of the season to date

Are you implying Raiders/49ers was the Marquis De Sade game?

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Are you implying Raiders/49ers was the Marquis De Sade game?

That was the game of the century , the raiders-9ers have bigger fish to fry than game of the season

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Chargers/Seattle should not be on so early.
Very unfair to West Coast.

Whachoo talking bout, Willis?

Regards,
Chris

 

[farn]

NE v GB will start at what was - yesterday - 10:20pm at my place... getting old for his.

I think NO v LAR could be a good one. NO has a good shot.

 

[Wheelman]

It's time Cleveland. Hue Jackson is gone. Now you can actually play and beat the chiefs! Go do it!

 

[Foxypats]

wouldn't it be great and the biggest shock ever if the Brown beat the Chiefs ?

 

[oldrover]

wouldn't it be great and the biggest shock ever if the Brown beat the Chiefs ?

 

[Foxypats]

Ryan fitzmagic with a pick

 

[TomPatriot]

Osweiler misses an open Dola.

 

[nabwong]

So far this season we’ve had

1. A player retire at half time
2. A coach takes a time out to retire

Can we have Jon Harbaugh fired sometime during the game?

 

[102 Pat]

NE v GB will start at what was - yesterday - 10:20pm at my place... getting old for his.

I think NO v LAR could be a good one. NO has a good shot.

Agreed, the 9:20pm kick off usually means it's close to 1am before the game ends. I'd love to be able to watch games in the Eastern time zone.