[NEM APPROVED THREAD] Is Josh McDaniels the GOCOAT?

[sb1]

Was gonna start a new thread but it might fit here. I think this might be Josh's best season (so far) as an OC to date.

 

[DC Patriots]

Was gonna start a new thread but it might fit here. I think this might be Josh's best season (so far) as an OC to date.

2007?

 

[sb1]

2007?

Yeah but he had way better players that year. A lot of OC's would be really productive with that roster.

I actually think he's getting more out of this year's offense than he should be getting if that makes sense...

 

[TommyD4207]

Yeah but he had way better players that year. A lot of OC's would be really productive with that roster.

I actually think he's getting more out of this year's offense than he should be getting if that makes sense...

Honestly, 2008 was the year I was like 'Yeah, he's not just riding the bus'.
Matt Cassel set the all-time franchise record for pass yds vs. the Jets that year.

Edit: #2 is Mac Jones on that list btw, also Josh McDaniels as OC.

 

[Triumph]

Was gonna start a new thread but it might fit here. I think this might be Josh's best season (so far) as an OC to date.

The Browns game was a master class at switching schemes.

@ Tampa, the Pats attacked the Bucs with speed.

 

[Patjew]

At the time I was spending far more time on The Sporting News forums, and before that the original Boston.com Pats forum than here at PatsFans, so other oldtimers can better answere that question. Ring6 was a moderator here then, he could answer that question better than I.

But as I recall, NEM had an obsessive hatred of Josh McDaniels (as well as Charlie Weis). Not just obsessive, but bordering on delusional and paranoid. He derailed many threads into profanity-laced tirades filled with personal attacks. While he added perspective about his love for quick slants and in cuts, he also flooded the board with threads and posts, because he was consumed with setting forum records for the highest post count, and becoming PatsFans forum member of the year. The only person he hated more than McDaniels and Weis was president Bush, so he was interjecting a lot of political talk into football threads as well.

Again, it's been a while, but I believe he was banned from the main forum, but given a chance for a reprieve by still being able to post on other forums. Then he couldn't restrain himself, kept registering under new names (like NEMisis, or something like that), using the same identical writing style and topics to make it obvious who he was.

A very passionate Pats fan, he had an official Patriots fan club in Arizona, but also seemed to have his demons. FreeTedWilliams can tell you more about 'New England Mike' than I can; I'm going off a hazy memory.

It is probably not an awesome idea to call the message board owner's house and give his wife a hard time.

 

[signbabybrady]

2014 was Josh's best year and I don't think it's close. Just look the defenses he beat that playoffs and the gadget plays he dialed up. Peak performance.

Only a Bill hater would try to suggest this year has already surpassed 07, 08, 14,16, or 18.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Ah, NEM.
Back when I was younger (yet still older then than most posters here) and more stupider than now I used to waste bandwidth (an archaic expression) wrestling with pigs. He and I usually had polar opposite opinions on nearly everything.
He did not like me.

 

[reflexblue]

It is probably not an awesome idea to call the message board owner's house and give his wife a hard time.

When i posted he couldn't control himself it was calling ians home phone (multiple times) is what i had in mind.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Ave atque value for all the faithful departed: HarryBoy, Joker, NEM

 

[Zuma]

NEM and I mostly discussed politics when we emailed each other (he didn't want to talk in Patsfans.com DM's at that point). Good guy...I appreciated his Patriots enthusiasm.

 

[Triumph]

NEM and I mostly discussed politics when we emailed each other (he didn't want to talk in Patsfans.com DM's at that point). Good guy...I appreciated his Patriots enthusiasm.

Lots of NE fans in AZ.

I knew people that went to Colorado or Arizona in the winter every year.

 

[Thelonious]

I think the guy is brilliant. It can be frustrating to watch plays which, though they don't gain much, set up other plays (runnning into the line to no apparent purpose), but over time I have developed faith that he knows exactly what he's doing. And his success in developing/maximizing qb's is undeniable.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

He's a great offensive mind

 

[wahwho]

At the time I was spending far more time on The Sporting News forums, and before that the original Boston.com Pats forum than here at PatsFans, so other oldtimers can better answere that question. Ring6 was a moderator here then, he could answer that question better than I.

But as I recall, NEM had an obsessive hatred of Josh McDaniels (as well as Charlie Weis). Not just obsessive, but bordering on delusional and paranoid. He derailed many threads into profanity-laced tirades filled with personal attacks. While he added perspective about his love for quick slants and in cuts, he also flooded the board with threads and posts, because he was consumed with setting forum records for the highest post count, and becoming PatsFans forum member of the year. The only person he hated more than McDaniels and Weis was president Bush, so he was interjecting a lot of political talk into football threads as well.

Again, it's been a while, but I believe he was banned from the main forum, but given a chance for a reprieve by still being able to post on other forums. Then he couldn't restrain himself, kept registering under new names (like NEMisis, or something like that), using the same identical writing style and topics to make it obvious who he was.

A very passionate Pats fan, he had an official Patriots fan club in Arizona, but also seemed to have his demons. FreeTedWilliams can tell you more about 'New England Mike' than I can; I'm going off a hazy memory.

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I'd forgotten the details, but this description really makes me wonder what the difference is between that behavior and several current posters who make the board less fun to read and aren't banned. Maybe it's the profanity.

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[jmt57]

<delurk>

I'd forgotten the details, but this description really makes me wonder what the difference is between that behavior and several current posters who make the board less fun to read and aren't banned. Maybe it's the profanity.

</delurk>

Agree on your point, but see reflexblue's comment a few posts up.

 

[wahwho]

Agree on your point, but see reflexblue's comment a few posts up.

Yeah, that'll do it.

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Josh is very good.

No, not the best.

I've been forced to learn to take the good with the bad.

Like a lot of players and coaches, it was his effectiveness which led to getting him to the brink of lots of those non-championship seasons where he blew it.

Perhaps it was Belichick's call, but the fact is that Josh was the OC when they eschewed multiple extremely makeable field goals in favor of clearly futile fourth down and long situations late with a paper thin offensive line and the championship on the line in Denver, as well as giving Blount only a handful of carries.

And he dropped an injured Brady back to pass over fifty times in the Super Bowl against a Giants team whose only good ability was rushing the passer.

Also in the Super Bowl, the Patriots had the ball against an Eagles team that could not and did not stop them all day, with all their timeouts and the two minute warning, with the chance to score, control the clock, take the lead and win the game and championship. And on first down, instead of running the ball, he...dropped Brady back to pass. As my mind dejectedly spoke to me saying, "This is fatal", inevitably they gave up a strip sack and the game was lost.

I would say that one major factor in my considering Charlie Weis to be an equally good and effective OC is that Charlie not only ran the ball, but he knew when to do it in down and distance situations which kept the defense off balance and took pressure off the quarterback.

True about Cassel and Jones...and if the Patriots win the Super Bowl this year, well, I will be forced to put him right up there with the best OC's ever.

 

[XLIX]

Perhaps it was Belichick's call, but the fact is that Josh was the OC when they eschewed multiple extremely makeable field goals in favor of clearly futile fourth down and long situations late with a paper thin offensive line and the championship on the line in Denver, as well as giving Blount only a handful of carries.

um.... yeah I think it was the head coach's call whether or not to go for it or kick a FG.... Josh might have been the one to call the play in situations where they went for it, but Josh wasn't telling Bill whether or not to take 3....