NE top drafting Pro-Bowls, All-Pros since 2000

[long distance]

Its not a full account of NE drafting by any means .. but while people are more busy counting busts . below article offers a good look at great drafting success of BB&co . especially taking in consideration that they had by far the lowest basic draft capital (being by far the most successful team in the period).

Of course Brady makes for big part of it but that doesn't negate the success with many other picks as well and gives a good context of it within the league. Apart from making top success with lowest basic draft capital it is also interesting note that Pats created for themselves the 2nd most draft picks - confirming once more the importance of quantity not just the quality of draft picks people mostly covet..

.. just to show there is no GOAT roster building era without good/great drafting..

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Patriots have drafted most Pro Bowls, third-most All Pros since 2000

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

>>>Overall, New England has selected 153 players over the course of the last 16 drafts<<<
BB's trades result in the Pats having about 9.6 picks per draft while the average team has 8 picks (7 rounds and 32 compensatory picks) resulting in a better chance of a successful draft. On the flip side, I'll bet the Pats have had the worst average drafting position of the last 16 years by virtue of their excellent regular season record.

 

[Galeb]

That's pretty amazing when you consider two first rounders have been stolen and they've had, by far, the worst draft position since.

 

[Froob]

That's pretty amazing when you consider two first rounders have been stolen and they've had, by far, the worst draft position since.

Also been in the SB 3 times during the new pro bowl era, so our guys who weren't voting in wouldn't get spots filling in the conference winners guys who won't be playing. And being in the AFC championship game almost every year guys wouldn't want to go anyways.

 

[jah]

I'd rather count the number of players who have been to a Pro Bowl/voted as All Pro rather than count Brady 14 times.

 

[Soliel]

I'd rather count the number of players who have been to a Pro Bowl/voted as All Pro rather than count Brady 14 times.

You have to count him that many times.lol

 

[BTTA]

Ian needs to have a policy against the posting of these articles. First, it was the article showing that the Pats pay out the most high contracts by position in the AFC East, by far. We know that's not true because we know that the Pats are cheapskates. Now this article which also just can't be true because we know that Belichick and company suck at drafting. The Board knows all it needs to know. Enough with the research and facts.

 

[borisman]

"We are building a team, not collecting (Pro Bowl) talent".

 

[Soliel]

Anyone would suck at drafting when the best picks they have are like #31_32 and # 63 or so. He finds people some how but the obvious guys are gone once bill gets to pick... On top of that, roger always takes the first round pick away.

 

[tasmlab]

I'd rather count the number of players who have been to a Pro Bowl/voted as All Pro rather than count Brady 14 times.

Another 28 selections are racked up just by Slater, Mankins, Light, Seymour and Wilfork.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's really horrible that Belichick drafts great players. It is so upsetting to so many in this forum.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Another 28 selections are racked up just by Slater, Mankins, Light, Seymour and Wilfork.

That's interesting. I think it's useful to report both the # of pro bowl / all pro selections and the number of different players (draft picks) who earn those nominations. I think you give slightly more credit to the Patriots (or any team) for drafting a multi-pro bowler in someone like Mankins than a different team that drafts a G who makes it to 1 pro bowl season.

 

[BobDigital]

I wish It would list the players and probowlers.

Just FYI (probowls and all pro players BB drafted.

Brady 12 - 2
Slater 6 - 1
Mankins 6 - 1
Seymour 5 - 3
Wilfork 5 - 1
Gronk 4 - 3
Gost 4 - 2
Light 3 - 1
Mayo 2 - 1
Meriweather 2
McCourty 2
Samuel 1 - 1
Koppen 1
Collins 1
Hightower 1
Jones 1
(Butler if you wanna add him has 1)

So idk how they have their numbers. I count 56 and 16 (not counting Butler)

Boston/New England Patriots All-Pros and Pro Bowlers | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yes it is good for the Pats but I would argue those numbers are deceiving somewhat.

Gost/Slater - had little if any impact on the last 2 SB wins. (10 probowls 3 all pros)
Meriweather - Somehow got 2 probowls but he wasn't good. It was a function of the fame of the team than his play (2 probowls)

I would take those 12 probowls off the board as not mattering much. That brings it down to 44 probowls and 13 all pros.

So while that isn't bad lets also remember 12 probowls and 2 all pros were Brady. Talent BB didn't really identify or he would have taken him higher.

Personally I think people are right to look at his draft history and not be overly impressed. I don't think it is bad but he doesn't have a great eye for it either.

What BB excels at is coaching and salary management. No one person can be a master of everything.

 

[jah]

I wish It would list the players and probowlers.

Just FYI (probowls and all pro players BB drafted.

Brady 12 - 2
Slater 6 - 1
Mankins 6 - 1
Seymour 5 - 3
Wilfork 5 - 1
Gronk 4 - 3
Gost 4 - 2
Light 3 - 1
Mayo 2 - 1
Meriweather 2
McCourty 2
Samuel 1 - 1
Koppen 1
Collins 1
Hightower 1
Jones 1
(Butler if you wanna add him has 1)

So idk how they have their numbers. I count 56 and 16 (not counting Butler)

Boston/New England Patriots All-Pros and Pro Bowlers | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yes it is good for the Pats but I would argue those numbers are deceiving somewhat.

Gost/Slater - had little if any impact on the last 2 SB wins. (10 probowls 3 all pros)
Meriweather - Somehow got 2 probowls but he wasn't good. It was a function of the fame of the team than his play (2 probowls)

I would take those 12 probowls off the board as not mattering much. That brings it down to 44 probowls and 13 all pros.

So while that isn't bad lets also remember 12 probowls and 2 all pros were Brady. Talent BB didn't really identify or he would have taken him higher.

Personally I think people are right to look at his draft history and not be overly impressed. I don't think it is bad but he doesn't have a great eye for it either.

What BB excels at is coaching and salary management. No one person can be a master of everything.

Minor nitpick: do you really think Slater wasn't a major contributor to the last ring?

 

[BobDigital]

Minor nitpick: do you really think Slater wasn't a major contributor to the last ring?

The play he made that others couldn't or wouldn't in that super bowl isn't coming to mind. Maybe i forgot a play but i don't recall anything particularly.

 

[jah]

The play he made that others couldn't or wouldn't in that super bowl isn't coming to mind. Maybe i forgot a play but i don't recall anything particularly.

That seems like Packer fan logic (Rodgers > Brady because he pops on the highlight reel more often).

 

[50-yard-line]

The play he made that others couldn't or wouldn't in that super bowl isn't coming to mind. Maybe i forgot a play but i don't recall anything particularly.

If he forced a fair catch on a punt because he beat the blocking to get in the returner's face, he might have saved a big gain or even a TD.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Bu-bu-but I thought Bill The GM was sabotaging Bill the coach?

 

[patchick]

Another 28 selections are racked up just by Slater, Mankins, Light, Seymour and Wilfork.

True, but that kind of pattern is pretty normal. In fact, the Patriots' numbers don't seem to be particularly top-heavy.

For instance, Joe Thomas alone accounts for over 40% of the Browns' Pro Bowl appearances. And if I'm counting correctly, the top 6 Ravens (Lewis, Ogden, Reed, Suggs, Ngata, Yanda) account for as many Pro Bowl appearances as the 6 players you listed plus Brady!

 

[Wheelman]

The play he made that others couldn't or wouldn't in that super bowl isn't coming to mind. Maybe i forgot a play but i don't recall anything particularly.

I think it's important to note that Slater often commands double teams and sometimes even triple teamed.