Montana/Young 19 seasons starters, 5 Rings

[mosslost]

Montana/Young 19 seasons as starters, 5 Rings

Everyone is always talking about getting our "Steve Young" for the Pats.

Well they combined for 19 starting seasons and 5 rings.

Brady has 15 starting seasons already, and 5 rings also.

At the time of Young's ONE ring (49er 5th) their combined starting years was.... guess what 15.

Montana/Young 5 rings ... 15 seasons

Montana/Young total 19 seasons.

Why do we need an "heir". Brady is his own heir.

 

[lurker1965]

Wait until the racist bastards of Boston realize Jacoby Brissett is black.

(Sorry, you said, heir to Brady...)

 

[mosslost]

Wait until the racist bastards of Boston realize Jacoby Brissett is black.

(Sorry, you said, heir to Brady...)

I don't get it.

 

[signbabybrady]

I love that there are now at least 100 different ways you can slice it and they all end with Tom Brady is the Greatest of All Time.

 

[mosslost]

just to sort of clarify, the TOTAL run of Montana/Young as starters is 19 seasons, in which they won 5 SB. (Won the 5 rings in the first 15 seasons)

So, if Brady makes it to 18 or 19 seasons, wins 5 or even a sixth... what difference does it make whatsoever if we did not get our "Young"? Brady could last longer than both their careers combined!

 

[ALP]

Because whatever Brady gets you, having a replacement to him like young did to Montana would be 3 decades of dominance and possibly 10 superbowls...

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Was thinking about this the other day. Tom Brady has won as many Super Bowls as 31 FRANCHISES. The only team with more than Tom is the Steelers, with 6.

Think about it.

In Montana and Young, you have 2 HOFers from one of the greatest dynasties in the league, and that franchise still has as many Super Bowls as Tom.

The Cowboys have been around for 51 years, made the playoffs 32 times, have several HOF QBs, their own mini dynasty with 2 titles in 3 years, and as a franchise, still don't have more than Brady.

Titletown will have 3 HOF QBs who have won Super Bowls, yet Brady has more Super Bowl wins than the entire Packers franchise.

It's unreal to think about. These franchises have been around for over half a century, and one single QB has won as many, if not more Super Bowls than almost all of them in 51 years of trying.

 

[lurker1965]

I don't get it.

Sorry, listening to local talk radio, and apparently E!SPN decided Boston was a racist city. Out of context that probably is a non-sequitur at best.

 

[Rusty Coupe]

Was watching a replay of SB XXIV and Denver was losing 27-3 to start the third quarter. Elway starts the first two drives of the second half with two horrible interceptions, and they go on to lose by 40 to Montana.

It makes me appreciate the Patriots a lot.

 

[Ivan]

I don't get it.

The media took a shot at the Patriots for not having a black starting QB anytime in recent history but ignored the fact that Bledsoe and Brady have been the starters for 25 of the last 26 years.

 

[pwes]

just to sort of clarify, the TOTAL run of Montana/Young as starters is 19 seasons, in which they won 5 SB. (Won the 5 rings in the first 15 seasons)

So, if Brady makes it to 18 or 19 seasons, wins 5 or even a sixth... what difference does it make whatsoever if we did not get our "Young"? Brady could last longer than both their careers combined!

Because at some point Brady is going to stop. Its not about how many years he plays but having a good-great replacement for him when he eventually hangs them up. Its hard to quantify when that would be now given how he plays but that's what people mean when they say they want a "Young" to follow Brady. They just dont want to become the Bills or Jets after Brady leaves, constantly cycling through QBs every 3-4 years

 

[mosslost]

Was thinking about this the other day. Tom Brady has won as many Super Bowls as 31 FRANCHISES. The only team with more than Tom is the Steelers, with 6.

Think about it.

In Montana and Young, you have 2 HOFers from one of the greatest dynasties in the league, and that franchise still has as many Super Bowls as Tom.

The Cowboys have been around for 51 years, made the playoffs 32 times, have several HOF QBs, their own mini dynasty with 2 titles in 3 years, and as a franchise, still don't have more than Brady.

Titletown will have 3 HOF QBs who have won Super Bowls, yet Brady has more Super Bowl wins than the entire Packers franchise.

It's unreal to think about. These franchises have been around for over half a century, and one single QB has won as many, if not more Super Bowls than almost all of them in 51 years of trying.

Another thing that is kind of amazing... Brady is going to end up roughly with the combined career stats of BOTH Montana and Young for TDs, Yards Passing, and fewer INTs.. Then BOTH of them combined. Probably better winning percentage and at least tied in SB trophies.

 

[mosslost]

Because whatever Brady gets you, having a replacement to him like young did to Montana would be 3 decades of dominance and possibly 10 superbowls...

My point is Young's "replacement" of Montana (1 ring, like 8 years sole starter), is going to be surpassed by Brady. Brady is his own heir if our comparison is Montana to Young. He will actually eclipse it, even in years started.. (More years starter than BOTH Montana and Young combined) Brady is the replacement.

 

[mosslost]

Because at some point Brady is going to stop. Its not about how many years he plays but having a good-great replacement for him when he eventually hangs them up. Its hard to quantify when that would be now given how he plays but that's what people mean when they say they want a "Young" to follow Brady. They just dont want to become the Bills or Jets after Brady leaves, constantly cycling through QBs every 3-4 years

It actually is about how many years he plays and at what level. Totally is only about that and only that.

Montana 11 years starter -4 rings
Young 8 additional years starter - 1 ring

Brady when all is said done probably 18 or 19 years - already has 5 rings.

Of course we want them to stay good after, but you are missing the point entirely.

 

[convertedpatsfan]

Because whatever Brady gets you, having a replacement to him like young did to Montana would be 3 decades of dominance and possibly 10 superbowls...

Looking back, it's a reminder that even the greatest of transitions doesn't mean great success.

Montana to Young, Favre to Rodgers are often cited as the best-case scenario of transitioning from a HOF QB. But upon further review, Young only won one more Super Bowl after taking over for Montana.

Rodgers won a Super Bowl early in his career, but has yet to make it back to the big game, something Favre did twice. While Rodgers is an athletic freak and a superhuman, he has yet to surpass Favre in so many ways. He's also only 5-6 in the playoffs since that Super Bowl victory.

So even if the next guy is a HOFer, there's still a pretty good chance he doesn't even go to multiple Super Bowls, let alone win them.