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Mike Mayock updates his top 20 rankings.

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I'm really amazed at the wide range that different mocks/rankings have Ayers at. Anywhere from Top 15 to 2nd round. IF he made it to the Patriots at #23, I would not be shocked if they took him ala Mayo last year where you have a guy seemingly under the radar to the casual observers.
 
I'm actually stunned he has Pettigrew that high. I have a hard time believing a guy who might have been about the seventh-best tight end in last year's draft is the seventh-best player in this year's.
 
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I'm actually stunned he has Pettigrew that high. I have a hard time believing a guy who might have been about the seventh-best tight end in last year's draft is the seventh-best player in this year's.

Mayock is definitly carrying his jock strap to the NFL draft.

Veron Davis was pick #6 so they should be around the same value. Who would you rather have?
 
Mayock is definitly carrying his jock strap to the NFL draft.

Veron Davis was pick #6 so they should be around the same value. Who would you rather have?

At the time? Davis, no question. He was an elite athlete from a Pro-style offense. Pettigrew doesn't have his athleticism, nor his production.

Pettigrew looks to be Chris Baker to me. Nice Tight End...but one you're always going to try to upgrade.
 
Moreno is were he belongs should we be suprised if he makes it out the top 20. He appears to have all the skills of an elite RB.
 
Look at who has shot way up to #5.

Well, at least Mayock isn't suffering from groupthink.

I agree that Pettigrew isn't a top-10 player by any means. He's a good solid player, but not the kind of special talent to rate the #7 overall. No chance he goes before the likes of Raji & Orakpo.

Notable absences from the top 20: Oher, Everette Brown

Notable teammates: Anybody struck by the fact that no two pundits can agree on which of the three USC linebackers is the elite talent? There's always one rated top-20, but roll the dice on which one.
 
Some might be high, but if Maylock put someone in the top 10, he will be drafted before we draft at 23. Consider the board still available at 21. Note that he has the LB run starting at 19 with Cushing and English at 19 and 20.

BTW, Fred Jones of Huddle had us drafting Jackson, with Matthews and Laurinitis being considered. I would note that in his mock Maualuga is long gone.

We would have our choice for these 19 at 23 and our choice of at least 8 at 34!!!
This, of course, presumes that we haven't already traded up for Brown.
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LEFT AT 23 PER MAYLOCK (19 players)
OT: Oher!!!, Britton, Beatty
DE: Everret Brown!!!, Jackson
RB: Wells
LB: Maualuga, Matthews, Laurinitis, Maybin, Sintim, Barwin
WR: Nicks, Heyward-Bey
DB: Sean Smith, Alphonso Smith, DJ Moore, Darius Butler
 
Well, at least Mayock isn't suffering from groupthink.

I agree that Pettigrew isn't a top-10 player by any means. He's a good solid player, but not the kind of special talent to rate the #7 overall. No chance he goes before the likes of Raji & Orakpo.

Notable absences from the top 20: Oher, Everette Brown

Notable teammates: Anybody struck by the fact that no two pundits can agree on which of the three USC linebackers is the elite talent? There's always one rated top-20, but roll the dice on which one.

There also seems to be little agreement on who the top 3-4 OLB prospects are. Mayock has Ayers as a top-5 talent and Cushing and English top 20, but no Everett Brown, Aaron Maybin or Clay Matthews, not to mention Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim or Michael Johnson.
 
There also seems to be little agreement on who the top 3-4 OLB prospects are. Mayock has Ayers as a top-5 talent and Cushing and English top 20, but no Everett Brown, Aaron Maybin or Clay Matthews, not to mention Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim or Michael Johnson.

Mayock will update his rankings several times before the draft. When Gosselin comes out with his top 100, we can compare both, and only then will we have an accurate assessment of who the GMs are high on. After all, they're the ones making the picks.

Side note: Pay close attention to all the reported late risers -- especially after the private workouts have completed, right up to draft day. I regret ignoring some of these reports in past drafts...as many of the risers have affected day one in particular.

Currently, Ayers is an early riser who doesn't seem to be dropping.
 
Note that neither Maualuga nor Laurinitis are even rated in the top 20...
 
I think Laurinitis has been in the 21-30 range for the last month.

I think most others still have Maualuga in the top 20.

It will be interesting to watch the rankings of DE/OLB's move as we get closer to the draft As another poster said, the interesting lists are this one and Gosselins. The final mocks from Huddle are also well-done (or have been over the last several years). Of course, I mention Huddle because today's mock had us picking a DE (Jackson)!
 
I don't see Connor Barwin or Clint Sintim sniffing the 1st round. I think English, Ayers and the 3 USC LBs are all mid-late 1st rounders.
 
Vontae Davis = Big Brother Vernon Davis

Workout warriors. No way he is a better pro prospect than Malcolm Jenkins. :banned:
 
Vontae Davis = Big Brother Vernon Davis

Workout warriors. No way he is a better pro prospect than Malcolm Jenkins. :banned:

I agree, but someone will take him high(10-15) based solely on his measurables.
 
There also seems to be little agreement on who the top 3-4 OLB prospects are. Mayock has Ayers as a top-5 talent and Cushing and English top 20, but no Everett Brown, Aaron Maybin or Clay Matthews, not to mention Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim or Michael Johnson.

its shocking that there is no Everett Brown. All I was hearing before was Ayers as a late first rounder or second rounder, would you take him if hes there at 23?
 
I agree, but someone will take him high(10-15) based solely on his measurables.

There's no need to take him solely on his measurables. You can justify taking him 10-20 solely on on-field performance. His measurables suggest he has a very high ceiling...perennial pro-bowl type in time. But I think he'd still be a first rounder if he ran and jumped in the middle of the CB pack. If he were there at #23, I'd have zero problem with Belichick drafting him.

As far as his brother is concerned, Vontae can only learn from Vernon's mistakes. The reports I've read regarding Vontae during Combine week was that he came off as very humble in interviews.

I've mentioned this before, but Belichick burned a supplemental pick on J'Juan Cherry, who might be the biggest turd that's been on the team in the last decade, but couldn't wait to sign and keep re-signing his brother Je'Rod, who was a solid citizen, team leader, and future coach. If people start judging us based on our sibling's behavior, I, for one, am in deep, deep trouble.
 
There's no need to take him solely on his measurables. You can justify taking him 10-20 solely on on-field performance. His measurables suggest he has a very high ceiling...perennial pro-bowl type in time. But I think he'd still be a first rounder if he ran and jumped in the middle of the CB pack. If he were there at #23, I'd have zero problem with Belichick drafting him.

As far as his brother is concerned, Vontae can only learn from Vernon's mistakes. The reports I've read regarding Vontae during Combine week was that he came off as very humble in interviews.

I've mentioned this before, but Belichick burned a supplemental pick on J'Juan Cherry, who might be the biggest turd that's been on the team in the last decade, but couldn't wait to sign and keep re-signing his brother Je'Rod, who was a solid citizen, team leader, and future coach. If people start judging us based on our sibling's behavior, I, for one, am in deep, deep trouble.

True, but he has some measurables that don't seem to translate on the field. Like the 25 bench press. Do we really want a muscle bound CB?
 
There's no need to take him solely on his measurables. You can justify taking him 10-20 solely on on-field performance. His measurables suggest he has a very high ceiling...perennial pro-bowl type in time. But I think he'd still be a first rounder if he ran and jumped in the middle of the CB pack. If he were there at #23, I'd have zero problem with it.

I'd have a big problem with it. We don't need a CB - certainly not in the 1st round - and I don't think he fits the Pats at all. Darius Butler would be a much more reasonable pick at #23, if we somehow ended up taking a CB. Belichick places a premium on consistent performance from his players, and Davis is anything but consistent.
 
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