John Harbaugh ridiculed for bypassing kneel-down to extend 100-yard rushing streak

[203Pat]

Extra point. T'was the point of yon post, m'lord.

 

[Koma]

When I first heard about this story, I thought the Ravens ran a play to get Jackson or one of their RBs 100 yards rushing. That would make more sense since hitting 100 yards a certain amount of times could trigger a bonus in their contract. As much as I want to be outraged by this and the league to open up an investigation into Harbaugh's participation in fantasy football/daily fantasy, I can't do it over a 5 yard run.

Just looking at the box score, midway through the 4th quarter, the Ravens went on a 6+ minute drive and kicked a FG to go up 23-7 with 1:54 left in the game. The Broncos responded by driving down to the Baltimore 5 where Lock threw an INT with 3 seconds left. Baltimore, who had 97 rushing yards at that point, ran the ball for 5 yards on the last play of the game. I get the Broncos being upset that the Ravens didn't do what they were "supposed" to do, but it was a run from the 20 to the 25. The Broncos were down 16 and had no realistic chance of winning on their last possession, why was it okay for them to try and score a TD? Couldn't they have just taken a knee and run out the clock? As far as the Ravens record, I had no idea who held this record previously and never would have guessed the 70s Steelers. It seems pretty inconsequential, all the way around.

In terms of classless things to do at the end of a game, this was a 1 on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the worst. Here's an example of a 10 (Buddy Ryan having Randall Cunningham fake a kneel down with a 10 point lead, a running clock and less than 15 seconds left in the 4th quarter):



I can't imagine the reaction and fallout if a coach did something similar today.

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

I will forever hate Hard Bawl after frame gate. He can suck an egg.

Can't stand his whiney ***.

 

[carmelo15]

It’s a classless move.

What are we 10’years old I’ll never get this idea it’s so stupid. Same thing in the nba the losing team gets to move the ball and attempt to score ok but the team winning has to take knees or not attempt jump shots. What kind of nonsense is this there grown man the game stops when the buzzer sounds

 

[carmelo15]

Are you serious? They had the game in hand. What are you talking about?

Why didn’t denver kneel ?

 

[carmelo15]

When I first heard about this story, I thought the Ravens ran a play to get Jackson or one of their RBs 100 yards rushing. That would make more sense since hitting 100 yards a certain amount of times could trigger a bonus in their contract. As much as I want to be outraged by this and the league to open up an investigation into Harbaugh's participation in fantasy football/daily fantasy, I can't do it over a 5 yard run.

Just looking at the box score, midway through the 4th quarter, the Ravens went on a 6+ minute drive and kicked a FG to go up 23-7 with 1:54 left in the game. The Broncos responded by driving down to the Baltimore 5 where Lock threw an INT with 3 seconds left. Baltimore, who had 97 rushing yards at that point, ran the ball for 5 yards on the last play of the game. I get the Broncos being upset that the Ravens didn't do what they were "supposed" to do, but it was a run from the 20 to the 25. The Broncos were down 16 and had no realistic chance of winning on their last possession, why was it okay for them to try and score a TD? Couldn't they have just taken a knee and run out the clock? As far as the Ravens record, I had no idea who held this record previously and never would have guessed the 70s Steelers. It seems pretty inconsequential, all the way around.

In terms of classless things to do at the end of a game, this was a 1 on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the worst. Here's an example of a 10 (Buddy Ryan having Randall Cunningham fake a kneel down with a 10 point lead, a running clock and less than 15 seconds left in the 4th quarter):



I can't imagine the reaction and fallout if a coach did something similar today.

Harbough said today that there’s no such thing as a 16 point touchdown so why throw it

 

[doesntmatter1]

I don't care one iota but I love when Harbaugh takes heat for anything considering he is possibly the biggest baby of all the nfl head coaches.

 

[1960Pats]

Don't like it? Stop them from gaining any yards.

On a play when nobody thinks you're going to run a play at the end game it shows a lack of respect for the other team and cheapens the record. This, btw, is the same guy who earned the name Harbawl after he cried like a baby because the Pats fooled him in the playoffs in 2014 with a legitimate play. He whined so much over that one that they used the AFCN stacked committee to change the rules so he couldn't get fooled again.

Did you have a problem with the Pats winning the toss in OT at KC and marching down the field for the winning TD in the 2018 AFCCG?

Brilliant strategic move by Harbaugh because his players will love him for doing this.
Helps bring the team together, an us versus them mentality.
If this were the patriots, everyone on this board would love Belicheck for doing this.
Broncos should have stopped him if they knew it was coming.

Love him or hate em, Harbaugh is a brilliant coach and his players will not forget this.

No way would I be celebrating the Pats if they pulled that at the end of a blowout.
I imagine that many people will remember that moment, not just the Ratbirds.

 

[1960Pats]

When I first heard about this story, I thought the Ravens ran a play to get Jackson or one of their RBs 100 yards rushing. That would make more sense since hitting 100 yards a certain amount of times could trigger a bonus in their contract. As much as I want to be outraged by this and the league to open up an investigation into Harbaugh's participation in fantasy football/daily fantasy, I can't do it over a 5 yard run.

Just looking at the box score, midway through the 4th quarter, the Ravens went on a 6+ minute drive and kicked a FG to go up 23-7 with 1:54 left in the game. The Broncos responded by driving down to the Baltimore 5 where Lock threw an INT with 3 seconds left. Baltimore, who had 97 rushing yards at that point, ran the ball for 5 yards on the last play of the game. I get the Broncos being upset that the Ravens didn't do what they were "supposed" to do, but it was a run from the 20 to the 25. The Broncos were down 16 and had no realistic chance of winning on their last possession, why was it okay for them to try and score a TD? Couldn't they have just taken a knee and run out the clock? As far as the Ravens record, I had no idea who held this record previously and never would have guessed the 70s Steelers. It seems pretty inconsequential, all the way around.

In terms of classless things to do at the end of a game, this was a 1 on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the worst. Here's an example of a 10 (Buddy Ryan having Randall Cunningham fake a kneel down with a 10 point lead, a running clock and less than 15 seconds left in the 4th quarter):



I can't imagine the reaction and fallout if a coach did something similar today.

When Denver drove down the field the last time they were within 16, just like the Pats were in the 28-3 SB. They still had a chance. Once the Ratbirds got the ball then the game was over.

 

[1960Pats]

What are we 10’years old I’ll never get this idea it’s so stupid. Same thing in the nba the losing team gets to move the ball and attempt to score ok but the team winning has to take knees or not attempt jump shots. What kind of nonsense is this there grown man the game stops when the buzzer sounds

I agree with that during competition. But not as a surprise for a cheap record at the end of a blowout.

I have to admit though that I like that it's a Harbawl doing it. Imagine the tears he would have had if this were done to his team. He'd probably have a rule changed.

 

[1960Pats]

Why didn’t denver kneel ?

They needed 16 points to tie.

 

[catent]

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[Kontradiction]

 

[Patsgofor4]

Yeah, nobody gets hurt on kicks.

Rob Gronkowski breaks forearm during Patriots' win

The New England Patriots won a game but lost a star player. Tight end Rob Gronkowski broke his forearm during Sunday's blowout victory over the Indianapolis Colts, Ian Rapoport reports.

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Yeah, but no. The extra point was going to be kicked no matter what, the only difference was that Bill let Flutie drop kick it instead of the letting Vinatieri kick it in the traditional manner, because there hadn’t been a drop-kicked extra point since the early 40s and Flutie was going to retire at the end of the season. It was actually safer to have him drop kick it because the snap went directly to him.

That was a totally different situation than Harbaugh’s decision to call an actual running play instead of kneeling down, and a totally different argument than having Gronk on the kick protection teams.

Congrats on your sarcasm and facts fail.

 

[captain stone]

Don't like it? Stop them from gaining any yards.

Unsurprising that scum like you would post something like that.

 

[captain stone]

I can tell a lot of young posters in this thread

they forget 07 when BB was ridiculed for passing in red zone up 45-7 in 4th quarter and going for it on 4th down

Patriots got Gronk the TE yardage record in 2011 by having Hoyer throw him a 22 yard pass instead of kneeling on it.

Which games were these? Be specific now.

 

[Sicilian]

There's a big difference between running up a score in a game where the clock still dictates that SOME play has to be run, and running a play that could risk injury (and I'm not talking about just to star players, but to anyone playing the game), that doesn't need to be run. If I'm up 20 points, and can't run the clock with kneel downs, and decide to throw a pass, it may be unwise, but it's running a play when a play needs to be run. Running the ball when a kneel down ends the game is running a play when it DOESN'T need to be run. There's a difference there in my eyes. This isn't a case of "just stop it" because there's no benefit to the success or failure of the play. There's only the risk of injury.

 

[Lavictoire]

I can tell a lot of young posters in this thread

they forget 07 when BB was ridiculed for passing in red zone up 45-7 in 4th quarter and going for it on 4th down

I think BB unleashed hell on the NFL that year after the spygate accusations.

 

[1960Pats]

Back when the Pats were accused of running up the score I defended them for a couple of reasons. One was because the season is a work in progress and the other is because one of the tie-breakers concerns points scored.
The Harbawl call is a chickensh!t move that fits him like a glove.

 

[1960Pats]

I think BB unleashed hell on the NFL that year after the spygate accusations.

The whole NYFL world was crying after the Pats whipped Joe Gibbs' Redskins team.