Jags players arrested in UK bar brawl; game starts in 12 hours

[PP2]

I don't know if that's ever going to happen for a lot of these companies. Amazon for instance is a distributor and cloud provider. Apple more then likely won't ever fully bring manufacturing back, not with how little they spend in labor costs in Asia. Trumps plan to set a minimum salary for imported IT workers wasn't terrible, but i don't know if it had much of an effect.

For the most part a lot of manufacturing is going to move towards automation. Even the fast food industry is heading that way. in the next 10-15 years there are going to be a LOT of people displaced in the workforce by simple machines, we're(as a people) going to need to find jobs for them, otherwise they become dead weight on a system already being strained.

The really interesting thing about amazon is how little they actually make in terms of profits, while at the same time the owner continues to out pace the rest of the elite in terms of straight cash homie. It would be interesting to see what he does with his $156 billion dollars If i had maybe 2 of those billion and 5 years, I bet i could solve a good chunk of the homelessness.

He spent a good chunk renovating his 7th mansion. I could imagine 2-3 being fun, but 7 is just senseless.

 

[chasa]

Re: the bolded, if I had to take a guess, my guess would be that a generous percentage of them begin moving towards trades (I.E., electricians, plumbers, welders, etc). Because the country has placed a premium on higher education, there's a saturation of candidates in fields that require degrees while skilled trade jobs are dwindling.

That's the dream. It's a shame more guidance counselors didn't push students in that direction when i was in school.

Everything was college first, without anyone even suggesting that there were other options.

It was either go to college get a degree, or you will end up at mcdonalds flipping burgers for the rest of your life. If someone had told me that i could make close to 6 figures welding, I'm pretty sure i would have made some different life choices.

 

[JackBauer]

How did we go from a Jags bar brawl to debating the merits of capitalism?

 

[Kontradiction]

Possibly, but for the most part, the capitalism economy in this country is rigged so that it works downwards. If you're trying to rise out of poverty, you're really going against the current. If you're a person of color.. well, good luck.

If you’re a person of color, you have scholarship opportunities available to you based on your color alone. There are also student loans you can take out or you can pay your own way. When I went to get my MBA, my parents made it clear that they were done and that I had to do it on my own. I researched jobs that offered tuition reimbursement, applied, got hired at one, and worked the two year probationary period in their call center until I qualified for their reimbursement plan. I had to save and front the money for my first few semesters before the reimbursements came in. Then I had to work full time in a job where I ended up topping out at just over $1,300 bi-weekly while eating a **** sandwich day after day in a call center for a utility company while taking anywhere from six (fall) to nine (spring and summer) credit hours per semester. It took two and a half years longer than it have had I just gone full time as a student and taken out loans, but I eventually graduated, moved up in the same company, and am now in management where I make a very healthy salary.

The moral is: it can be done. This country allows people the resources to get out of poverty. People are remarkably resourceful when they need to be. When the chips are down, but you want it bad enough, you’ll find a way. But it’s not easy and you have to work your ass off for it. And that last sentence is why too many are content to sit on their asses with their hands out.

 

[Tony2046]

I don't know if that's ever going to happen for a lot of these companies. Amazon for instance is a distributor and cloud provider. Apple more then likely won't ever fully bring manufacturing back, not with how little they spend in labor costs in Asia. Trumps plan to set a minimum salary for imported IT workers wasn't terrible, but i don't know if it had much of an effect.

For the most part a lot of manufacturing is going to move towards automation. Even the fast food industry is heading that way. in the next 10-15 years there are going to be a LOT of people displaced in the workforce by simple machines, we're(as a people) going to need to find jobs for them, otherwise they become dead weight on a system already being strained.

The really interesting thing about amazon is how little they actually make in terms of profits, while at the same time the owner continues to out pace the rest of the elite in terms of straight cash homie. It would be interesting to see what he does with his $156 billion dollars If i had maybe 2 of those billion and 5 years, I bet i could solve a good chunk of the homelessness.

The automation displacement argument has been around since the days of the industrial revolution and Henry Ford's assembly line.

A few things to keep in mind when discussing automation replacing or displacing people:

1. Manufacturing is not moving towards automation. It's already there and has been there for decades.

- Yes it's improving. PLC's, Robotics, Pneumatics etc... are getting better and in my experiences quite reliable. But you will always need an operator, a technician and an engineer.

- Automation is absolutely necessary. It doesn't usually displace the employee rather it makes the employee more productive which allows the company to compete.

2. Automation usually only happens after some growth. New businesses or small businesses do not fully automate until they have established some level of growth. There's a threshold in which it makes sense to automate an assembly process. The more flexible a company needs to be the less automated it will be.

- If a company makes plastic forks then it makes sense to invest in a fully automated process.

- If a small company makes personalized forks then the process becomes less automated and would need people to finish, inspect, hand pack and ship the product. (That's overly simplified to demonstrate the point)

4. For every fast food chain that automates their process there's a mom and pop restaurant that needs a cook or busboy. Pretty much the same in any business. Larger automated companies are less flexible product wise than smaller more customized companies.

Bringing manufacturing back to the US would help solve or reduce a lot of the social issues we have today. imo. Reducing or eliminating corp tax rates would be a wonderful step in that direction. Basically expand the workforce and decrease government aid.

Anyway that's the gist of it.

 

[Raymond]

Not made up here. A relative, in law works in a very high end restaurant in Jax. The jags players trash the place regularly to include removing paintings on the wall and fight over the bill.
He always talks about how the Pats would never let their players pull crap like that.

 

[Kontradiction]

Not made up here. A relative, in law works in a very high end restaurant in Jax. The jags players trash the place regularly to include removing paintings on the wall and fight over the bill.
He always talks about how the Pats would never let their players pull crap like that.

Which restaurant?

 

[The Brandon Five]

I don't know if that's ever going to happen for a lot of these companies. Amazon for instance is a distributor and cloud provider. Apple more then likely won't ever fully bring manufacturing back, not with how little they spend in labor costs in Asia. Trumps plan to set a minimum salary for imported IT workers wasn't terrible, but i don't know if it had much of an effect.

For the most part a lot of manufacturing is going to move towards automation. Even the fast food industry is heading that way. in the next 10-15 years there are going to be a LOT of people displaced in the workforce by simple machines, we're(as a people) going to need to find jobs for them, otherwise they become dead weight on a system already being strained.

The really interesting thing about amazon is how little they actually make in terms of profits, while at the same time the owner continues to out pace the rest of the elite in terms of straight cash homie. It would be interesting to see what he does with his $156 billion dollars If i had maybe 2 of those billion and 5 years, I bet i could solve a good chunk of the homelessness.

It's a good thing they get to use prison labor. That might have brought him down to a miserly $150 billion. Six instead of seven mansions. The horror!

 

[Kontradiction]

It's a good thing they get to use prison labor. That might have brought him down to a miserly $150 billion. Six instead of seven mansions. The horror!

Do you watch 60 Minutes? They did a report last night about one of the last major strongholds in Syria that ISIS has since abandoned. They put a woman in charge of rebuilding the town and she estimated that the costs would be around $200M and that she believed there were still ISIS sleeper cells living in the town that could come back to power if they didn't get it rebuilt fast enough. Crazy to think that a guy like Bezos could solve that problem without even breaking a sweat.

 

[chasa]

It's a good thing they get to use prison labor. That might have brought him down to a miserly $150 billion. Six instead of seven mansions. The horror!

shhh you might get called a socialist ignoramus, for having the gall to say someone shouldn't have 7 homes.

 

[chasa]

Do you watch 60 Minutes? They did a report last night about one of the last major strongholds in Syria that ISIS has since abandoned. They put a woman in charge of rebuilding the town and she estimated that the costs would be around $200M and that she believed there were still ISIS sleeper cells living in the town that could come back to power if they didn't get it rebuilt fast enough. Crazy to think that a guy like Bezos could solve that problem without even breaking a sweat.

I think that's the part that is pissing people off. He COULD do a lot of things, instead he had workers pissing in bottles because giving them breaks was hurting the bottom line, honestly I'm still amazed they moved to a $15 minimum wage, i guess the bad press they were getting was starting to hurt the bottom line.

 

[1960Pats]

I thought this thread was about the Jags players acting up at a bar in London and skipping out on the bill. The snowflakes dumped it into the crapper pretty quickly.

 

[1960Pats]

I think that's the part that is pissing people off. He COULD do a lot of things, instead he had workers pissing in bottles because giving them breaks was hurting the bottom line, honestly I'm still amazed they moved to a $15 minimum wage, i guess the bad press they were getting was starting to hurt the bottom line.

You seem to have taken a sharp left turn at Patsfans.com. This political message board would welcome your opposing views...

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[chasa]

I thought this thread was about the Jags players acting up at a bar in London and skipping out on the bill. The snowflakes dumped it into the crapper pretty quickly.

Calm down gramps, go have a worthers and take a nap. With any luck you'll still have medicare and social security in a few years.

 

[PP2]

Calm down gramps, go have a worthers and take a nap. With any luck you'll still have medicare and social security in a few years.

That will depend on the outcome of the midterms. If the GOP hold on and/or expand. Kiss medicare and social security goodbye.

 

[PP2]

If you’re a person of color, you have scholarship opportunities available to you based on your color alone. There are also student loans you can take out or you can pay your own way. When I went to get my MBA, my parents made it clear that they were done and that I had to do it on my own. I researched jobs that offered tuition reimbursement, applied, got hired at one, and worked the two year probationary period in their call center until I qualified for their reimbursement plan. I had to save and front the money for my first few semesters before the reimbursements came in. Then I had to work full time in a job where I ended up topping out at just over $1,300 bi-weekly while eating a **** sandwich day after day in a call center for a utility company while taking anywhere from six (fall) to nine (spring and summer) credit hours per semester. It took two and a half years longer than it have had I just gone full time as a student and taken out loans, but I eventually graduated, moved up in the same company, and am now in management where I make a very healthy salary.

The moral is: it can be done. This country allows people the resources to get out of poverty. People are remarkably resourceful when they need to be. When the chips are down, but you want it bad enough, you’ll find a way. But it’s not easy and you have to work your ass off for it. And that last sentence is why too many are content to sit on their asses with their hands out.

First of all, congratulations on your achievements. No small feat, indeed.

I'd like to get back to this when I have time to articulate my response. Hopefully sometimes tomorrow after the game.

 

[Kontradiction]

First of all, congratulations on your achievements. No small feat, indeed.

I'd like to get back to this when I have time to articulate my response. Hopefully sometimes tomorrow after the game.

I look forward to it.

 

[Soliel]

Yep and all that wealth is tied up in the army, or in banks in tax evasion areas. Very little of that money is being spent. as a result the united states continues to see a deficit rise.

I'm not saying everyone should get an equal share. However I am saying that Corporations hoarding all that money should pay their fair share of taxes and stop hiding billions overseas.

What can anyone do?
That whole redistribution of wealth idea is dumb

 

[DarrylS]

Re: the bolded, if I had to take a guess, my guess would be that a generous percentage of them begin moving towards trades (I.E., electricians, plumbers, welders, etc). Because the country has placed a premium on higher education, there's a saturation of candidates in fields that require degrees while skilled trade jobs are dwindling.

My 23 year old grandson who was never a good student and would never make it in any college, started last June in the Frost Insulaters Union out of the Boston Local, he works in the Providence area (gets 90% of what they make in Boston) and is doing well, does not really "love" the job, but the benefits are incredible. His hourly package is about $75.00 per hour, that breaks down into hourly wage about $23.00 per hour, medical insurance etc. etc. But the best part of his pay is that the employer pays $8.00 an hour into an annuity, that is about 16K into an annuity.. over 30 years the numbers are staggering. He also has a small landscaping business and banks all that money.. He gets yearly step increases and at a union meeting they decide how to allocate the money.. between hourly wage, annuity contribution etc.

Fortunately, he can keep his eyes on that prize even though as a 1st year apprentice he takes a lot of crap..

Noticed last night the change in TV Advertising on of the big local plumbing companies are advertising for help and will provide training, the same was true for a local garage door installer.. huge switch to do this on a national broadcast(I know it is local advertising). Skilled trades are the way to go right now, and folks may have to get their hands dirty..

 

[goheels22002]

Don't know why I'm making this thread but here goes:

NFL stars arrested by cops at 4am after 'nightclub brawl over £50,000 bar bill'

The Jags are not JAGs when it comes to having a pint at the pub. $62,000 bar bill. Brawl at 4:00 a.m. with a bunch of Hooligans.

I applaud their training regimen and encourage them to keep up the good work. I can't imagine how bad a headache must be for a hung over safety when 60,000 people are making as much noise as possible to disrupt the opposing team's offense. What a bunch of wankers.