Jackie MacMullen back to doing what she does best

[makewayhomer]

Re: "Man-hands" MacMullen back to doing what she does best

DB,
I phrased myself poorly. I should have said "Seymour authorized his employee to blame BB, instead of doing it himself."
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when did he do this? how do you know the trainer wasn't just talking without RS's permission?

the fact that people hate RS b/c he got injured is awful. it's football. people get hurt. RS got hurt playing a strange position that he wasn't used to.

and I've never heard any indication that a) he complained about playing offense or b) anyone is upset about his work ethic in rehab

 

[Funktopus]

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Timing of it too. Why now, Richard? I 'had' cut him slack because of the injury. Plenty. But I don't like excuses in the middle of things. If this came out off-season or next pre-season, fine. But now it just reeks of self-pity and insecurity. Just shut up and play.

When did MacMullen interview RS and his training coach Taylor? Was it this week? Or is MacMullen doing what she did last year and sandbagging quotes from weeks ago just to support her preferred timing?

-F

 

[ClevTrev]

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Originally Posted by ClevTrev
Anyone want to discuss how the Pats are going to defend the Jags? I think they'll commit to stop the run and force Garrard to pass, but that must be in some other thread I missed . . . .

Let me take your hand and help you out by guiding you over here:

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=73513

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=73427

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=73476

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=73462

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/showthread.php?t=73439

......and many more over the past 24 hours.

Thanks, shmessy, thought it was obvious that my question was "tongue in cheek" or pure sarcasm. I prefer CHFF to People Magazine, especially when people get ripped from incomplete and baseless information.

Yes, you've got a lot of journalists out there especially over the past two weeks going negative in some way about the Pats. I was interested in this one, as it confirmed suspicions about Seymours injury. Most of us have noticed that he's not been himself. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[aluminum seats]

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Oh my god, stop the madness. The hysteria here is off the charts. It was an article about Seymour struggling w/injuries this year, with a brief reference by his trainer that the offensive plays he was involved with contributed to him being banged up. That's it. Again:

"In fact, Seymour said, he will come back to New England early this summer to train with his teammates, even though KT has a full load of workouts planned. Seymour said the Patriots have never indicated to him they were unhappy with his decision to do the bulk of his offseason conditioning in South Carolina, where both he and Tanya were raised.

"Coach Belichick has always been understanding about it," Seymour said. "I have a young family. He knows that. He knows I'm working as hard as I possibly can."

You could cherry-pick THIS quote and say here's another Patriot player praising Belichick. Honestly, this thread reads like it's being written by sports talk radio mouthbreathers.

 

[ClevTrev]

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Timing of it too. Why now, Richard? I 'had' cut him slack because of the injury. Plenty. But I don't like excuses in the middle of things. If this came out off-season or next pre-season, fine. But now it just reeks of self-pity and insecurity. Just shut up and play.

Agreed, that's the only issue I'd take with this is that Seymour could have told the journalist to come back after the last game. Now, he's put himself in a situation where the other team has a confirmed physical problem and will go after him. He'd better be at his best.

To blame MacMullen for doing her job is wrong. She writes what people say, and this is hardly news that needs to be treated in a sensitive manner for the sake of national security. This is about a game.

 

[shmessy]

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Thanks, shmessy, thought it was obvious that my question was "tongue in cheek" or pure sarcasm. I prefer CHFF to People Magazine, especially when people get ripped from incomplete and baseless information.

Yes, you've got a lot of journalists out there especially over the past two weeks going negative in some way about the Pats. I was interested in this one, as it confirmed suspicions about Seymours injury. Most of us have noticed that he's not been himself. Nothing more, nothing less.

I have zero complaints about Seymour. I think he is great and a classy person. Along with that, I believe, with the two weeks rest, we may see him at his healthiest and most dominating over the next four weeks.

My problem is with Jackie the Sandbagger. She gets these pieces done and then sandbags them until the day of, or day before Patriot playoff games. She has a record, and the fact that she's been called on it in the past but CONTINUES to do the same thing shows a remarkable arrogance and disrespect towards her readership.

 

[ClevTrev]

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I have zero complaints about Seymour. I think he is great and a classy person. Along with that, I believe, with the two weeks rest, we may see him at his healthiest and most dominating over the next four weeks.

My problem is with Jackie the Sandbagger. She gets these pieces done and then sandbags them until the day of, or day before Patriot playoff games. She has a record, and the fact that she's been called on it in the past but CONTINUES to do the same thing shows a remarkable arrogance and disrespect towards her readership.

Why, because they want her to write what they want to read? Remember, she'd have had bupkis today had Seymour told her to see him after the last game.

As aluminum seats correctly notes, the hysteria on this is off the charts.

 

[PantsB]

God the people on this board who have a thing against Seymour are some whiny fools.

Seymour is a future HoFer. He didn't say anything. Get over your Borges-esque petulant *****ing.

 

[shmessy]

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Why, because they want her to write what they want to read? Remember, she'd have had bupkis today had Seymour told her to see him after the last game.

As aluminum seats correctly notes, the hysteria on this is off the charts.

We'll have to agree to disagree then.

I, however, think it is wrong to manipulate one's readers by sandbagging. I have no complaints about WHAT was written. But about timing a provocative piece (that may have been done weeks or months prior) for the day of, or day before the first playoff game. If this was the first time, big deal. But she has done this in the past and has been criticized for it. Doing this again today, she is saying "eff you" to her readers.

Regarding your point that she'd "have bupkis today" without the Seymour story, I can't imagine that the 16-0 Patriots are that bereft of storylines for this 3 times per week "journalist".

 

[shmessy]

God the people on this board who have a thing against Seymour are some whiny fools.

Seymour is a future HoFer. He didn't say anything. Get over your Borges-esque petulant *****ing.

Another person who is mistakenly reading some of these complaints as anti-Seymour. Look at the thread title. Look at the majority of the complaints here.

MacMullen. Not Seymour, dude.

I completely agree with you about Seymour. I think he's great and a huge asset to the team. I hope he plays as long as he wants and retires someday as a Patriot. I can't spell it out any more simply for you.

 

[Clonamery]

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Agreed, that's the only issue I'd take with this is that Seymour could have told the journalist to come back after the last game. Now, he's put himself in a situation where the other team has a confirmed physical problem and will go after him. He'd better be at his best.

To blame MacMullen for doing her job is wrong. She writes what people say, and this is hardly news that needs to be treated in a sensitive manner for the sake of national security. This is about a game.

If Pony hadn't started a thread I never would have read the article. I don't read her. She has sunk to the level that her paper floats at in the world of media. I knew her in college when the world was young and sports "seemed" clean....and so too journalism.

 

[ClevTrev]

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We'll have to agree to disagree then.

Yep.

But about timing a provocative piece (that may have been done weeks or months prior) for the day of, or day before the first playoff game.

Read the article again, the information was gathered in the last week.

From the BG article by MacMullen: "It is Saturday, one week before the Patriots play the Jacksonville Jaguars in the AFC playoffs, and Seymour's wife, Tanya, and their four small children have already migrated to South Carolina for the winter. Their spacious home a few miles south of Gillette Stadium seems desolate without them."

The original interview done with Seymour this past Saturday with supporting quotes gathered this week, and the article written for press today. She was doing her job. She had willing interviewees. It is what it is . . .

 

[spacecrime]

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I want every one who take in the wrong tell him if they had worked in a company for a while and never ever said 1 crap about it. i do but does not mean i leave my job.

Ha ha. Tell you what. What would happen if were on of the highest paid employees in your company, and a leader. And then when your company was about to do something huge, some acquisition or equally something important, and the day before bids were announced or whatever the analogy might be, in the national media you gave insider information that company policy said should never be given to the press, and criticized the company official in charge of this big project, and further said the the way he and your company did business was faulty.

 

[dhamz]

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When MacMullen published the Ted Johnson piece this offseason, she stated that she only went with it after receiving permission from Ted. It seems likely she affords the same courtesy to other high profile athletes who allow her exclusives.

If I recall, the Johnson piece was written months before it ran. It was originally set to run the day of the season opener. It was then held for Super Bowl week.

 

[shmessy]

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Yep.



Read the article again, the information was gathered in the last week.
The original interview done with Seymour this past Saturday with supporting quotes gathered this week, and the article written for press today. She was doing her job. She had willing interviewees. It is what it is . . .

You're right.

And now, I will do something that Jackie Mac was too small to ever do regarding when she was called out about the Asante Samuel piece last year:

I admit, my point about "sandbagging" of this piece was incorrect. The interview took place 6 days ago. For a feature piece, that is not really 'sandbagging".

While she does have a history of sandbagging provocative pieces to run the day of or the day before big game, this is probably not one of them.

 

[aluminum seats]

Another person who is mistakenly reading some of these complaints as anti-Seymour. Look at the thread title. Look at the majority of the complaints here.

MacMullen. Not Seymour, dude.

I completely agree with you about Seymour. I think he's great and a huge asset to the team. I hope he plays as long as he wants and retires someday as a Patriot. I can't spell it out any more simply for you.

"Mistakenly reading" the comments as anti-Seymour? The original post which set the tone of the thread:

"...another Patriot willing to publicly blame BB for his injuries"

"Seymour denounces BB"

"and the rest of the story is just bull$hi# to cover his tracks"

Seymour should "stop making excuses to the press"

"Seymour is not a team player"

"His contract extension...has been a big blunder"

etc. etc.

I think it's safe to say this thread has anti-Seymour comments. A lot of them.

 

[ClevTrev]

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While she does have a history of sandbagging provocative pieces to run the day of or the day before big game, this is probably not one of them.

I agree the history here is one that requires scrutiny every time an article of this nature by this journalist appears. While she is the journalist, it is the managing editor who controls and makes the decisions as to when content goes to press.

I think she might be the one with a tattoo that says "Get Paid." Others may want to substitute another letter for the "P."

 

[shmessy]

"Mistakenly reading" the comments as anti-Seymour? The original post which set the tone of the thread:

"...another Patriot willing to publicly blame BB for his injuries"

"Seymour denounces BB"

"and the rest of the story is just bull$hi# to cover his tracks"

Seymour should "stop making excuses to the press"

"Seymour is not a team player"

"His contract extension...has been a big blunder"

etc. etc.

I think it's safe to say this thread has anti-Seymour comments. A lot of them.

Sure. And I also disagree with blaming Richard Seymour. My complaint (and as wrote, the majority in this thread's) complaint is not with him.

 

[spacecrime]

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Read the article again, the information was gathered in the last week.
The original interview done with Seymour this past Saturday with supporting quotes gathered this week, and the article written for press today. She was doing her job. She had willing interviewees. It is what it is . . .

From the BG article by MacMullen: "It is Saturday, one week before the Patriots play the Jacksonville Jaguars in the AFC playoffs, and Seymour's wife, Tanya, and their four small children have already migrated to South Carolina for the winter. Their spacious home a few miles south of Gillette Stadium seems desolate without them." .

Means nothing except that that last Saturday Seymour's kids were in SC. It does not say the interview took place there or then. It is a writer trick of the trade to make old stuff immediate and therefore more interesting, as in an article about D-DAY:

"It is Wednesday, June 6, 2007, and I am standing in Normandy on a ridge overlooking the beachhead. In a surprise move, Allied ships had unloaded troops in the surf just below me, and the exposed troops faced withering fire from Germans in bunkers located immediately to my left and right. Private Jewell's wife and kids were safe in South Carolina, but Jewell himself was hurt. "Medic," he cried ..."

Yes, Allied ships DID unload troops in the surf when the author was standing, but not on the day he was standing there, and he does not say it was that day.

Seymour may or may not have spoken on Saturday, but you can't tell from her article.

 

[shmessy]

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I agree the history here is one that requires scrutiny every time an article of this nature by this journalist appears. While she is the journalist, it is the managing editor who controls and makes the decisions as to when content goes to press.

I think she might be the one with a tattoo that says "Get Paid." Others may want to substitute another letter for the "P."

Okay, now. Let's keep it to her journalism. I already edited the thread title. It isn't a case of gender. She is a very talented writer and I do enjoy reading her work when it isn't under Joe Sullivan's agenda.