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RT @RyanHannable: Thanks to Martellus Bennett, Johnny Manziel attends AFC championship and documents experience on social media https://t.c…

RT @Trags: In a career of great games, Tom Brady puts up one of his best to reach 7th Super Bowl. My column - WEEI https://t.co/bTAVtrE9wH…

@FlanneryBrian I'll get some sleep and think about it

@FlanneryBrian I think Ryan. But I don't know. Feel like that's the type of job Ryan always gets.

RT @ninko50: AFC champs!!! But we aren't done yet, one more to go!!!#SuperBowl #SuperBowl https://t.co/XKF0u0Jy0W

AFC champs!!! But we aren't done yet, one more to go!!!#SuperBowl #SuperBowl https://t.co/XKF0u0Jy0W

RT @CSNNE: Tom Brady allows himself to enjoy win vs. #Steelers : '[Bleep], you've got to be happy now' - @PhilAPerry #Steelers https://t.co/…

@dokerjams I appreciate those words, Bill. I also try to make sure to never take this for granted.

I wore a teal suit tonight. Watch me talk about the Patriots' defense in it. https://t.co/hnqGK3fNT4

"Sights and sounds" feature focuses on big day for @ChrisHogan_15 in Patriots' win. https://t.co/ysllAnSeSc

RT @ImaginationAgcy: @MartysaurusRex tying Jett's shoes post #playoffs WIN! @Barbie Your commercial was right. Real men 💗football but daugh…

@Jackie_Pepper @ABC Except didnt DT move to eliminate federal DV programs on day 1?

RT @DonBanks: The playoffs have been mostly routs, but Super Bowl has something old, something new for a matchup: Snap Judgments:

So happy ashleyboccio was able to come today! So thankful for her and everyone else that came… https://t.co/2AEA1l5jvI

@TMurph207 Early bird gets the worm. Or in this case, 9 catches for a Patriots playoff record 180 yards and 2 TDs.

RT @BenVolin: Nice goal line D and all, but Patriots are just taking away clock and timeouts from the offense. Steelers get the ball to sta…

Ohhhh BTW..... screenshotted this just to refresh everyone on what's up .... keep score folks https://t.co/RIC0nTNPef

RT @KevinMcNamara33: Kevin McNamara: Patriots ace so-called 'toughest test' to reach record-ninth Super Bowl #Patriots https://t.co/YPE7I1h…

RT @mikemcdermott76: Falcons' Ryan will try to do what Steelers' Roethlisberger couldn't -- beat the Pats https://t.co/I2CK7FpmHc via @bria

RT @KevinMcNamara33: Patriots not taking another trip to Super Bowl for granted #Patriots https://t.co/NoNR9oLbu3

RT @brianmacp: The goal-line stand that won the Patriots the AFC title: https://t.co/AimpP7SHjj

RT @DanWetzel: New England heads to the Super Bowl again, this time with Roger Goodell as the sideshow: https://t.co/wxoUcIkUeW


Is There Anyone Hoping For a Move Up In The First Round?

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by mgteich, May 6, 2014.

  1. manxman2601

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    I don't want to give up a 2nd in this deep draft but I'd give up a 3rd for someone with top 10 athleticism like Barr or Shazier.
     
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    AzorianPats In the Starting Line-Up

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    Me personally, I'd rather stand pat in the first, and try and move in another pick in the second. This draft is deep
     
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  3. betterthanthealternative

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    If Clowney is examined and is found to have a heart, or Lava Lava Lenny drops a bit, then yes. But there don't appear to be any other game changers for whom that kind of sacrifice is worthwhile.
     
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    I think we end up trading out of the first round, adding either multiple picks in rounds 2-3 of this year's draft, OR getting a 2015 first rounder out of the deal.
     
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    I dreamed with the Pats picking at #16
     
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    KontradictioN So... back to it! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    My concern with Donald is against the run. He needs to improve his lower body strength to be able to stand up blockers and clog running lanes. I think he'll enter the league as a pass rusher in sub-packages but it should take at least a season (maybe two) before he's capable of becoming a three down guy.
     
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    This just in.
    Coach Belichick's presser this morning on the upcoming NFL Draft.

    Reporter: Coach, which positions are you looking to shore up in this year's draft?
    BB: Every position is important, so we'll be looking everywhere.

    Reporter: OK, but can you at least tell us whether you're going to focus on Offense or Defense?
    BB: All three phases of the game are important, so we'll be looking at Defense, Offense and Special Teams.

    Reporter: Is there a reason you put Defense first on your list.
    BB: The order was alphabetical. I could do it backwards if you want.

    Reporter: What kind of a player are you looking for?
    BB: Someone who can help the team and is willing to work hard.

    Reporter: Do you plan to trade up in the first round?
    BB: We'll do whatever is in the best interests of the team.

    Reporter: How about trading down? Are you thinking of doing that?
    BB: We'll do whatever is in the best interests of the team.

    Reporter: You're really not going to tell us anything at all, are you?
    BB: Every position is important, so we'll be looking everywhere. All three phases of the game are important, so...

    Reporter: [runs screaming from the room]
     
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  8. manxman2601

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    I curious how you can take that view on Donald but then be such a fan of Easley who is much worse against the run. Are we just talking relative value?
     
  9. meatface

    meatface In the Starting Line-Up

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    I have absolutely no idea what i want the Pats to do and no idea whatsoever of what they will do, I wish this was all done with two weeks ago
     
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    KontradictioN So... back to it! PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I don't know that Easley was much worse against the run at all. Specifically what games did you watch that gave you that impression? And yes, it's a mixture of relative value on top of level of competition.
     
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    It's a general question of discipline. Easley constantly wants to win the race to become quickest upfield and doesn't play his gap. Donald is much more disciplined and controlled in the way he plays. Neither are strong but unless my requirement is solely for my DT to get upfield at any cost, I'm more comfortable with Donald on my DL. Doesn't mean I don't like Easley which I do in a sub package role, I'm just not sure about him as an every down guy.
     
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    That sort of push upfield and winning your match-up on an explosive first step is Muschamp's style in the trenches. But yes, relative value does have a lot to do with it. I don't want Easley before the 2nd because I don't think he's capable of being a three down DL just yet. I view him primarily as a sub-rusher that can line up at the 3-tech and cause a lot of problems there, which is exactly why you would want him in the 2nd. Donald, on the other hand, has the potential to go in the top 10. If you're expending that kind of draft capital, you want him to be able to come in and not get pushed around against the run, which was his problem against more physical OG's (and not gap integrity). If Donald adds some more lower body strength and bulks up, he should be able to better take on the run. But that shouldn't be expected out of him right out of the gates.
     
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    Unless it is the Jags, browns, or raiders pick in next year's first I don't want it, take the player's now.
     
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    Big Barr fan. I think that would be a good move.
     
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    Even though it is a 'deep' draft, if the players in the 2nd and 3rd round are not going to contribute immediately, then why bother trading back. The Pats are built to win in the next 1-2 years. If that does not happen, then you rebuild again.

    Thus, I think they will trade their 2nd and 3rd round picks for someone's 1st round. I think KC will be willing, and maybe even AZ if Shazier is not there.

    I would rather have a second 1st round pick that will contribute immediately this year, than a second and third rounder that may not be an impact player immediately. My guess is that they go all in on defense again like they did 2 years ago, with Jones and Hightower. If Belicheck is still in the mood for prospects and projects, then I guess he can go the other way and trade his pick for a 2nd and 3rd, but what are we going to do with those picks if they do not contribute immediately. They will be useful for depth and nothing else.
     
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    It would not be the worst thing ever am I gonna be mad if we don't no. But it would be nice to trade up and pick up a high first round player.
     
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    That's nice and all but it does NOT compute.The Pats 2nd pick has an assigned value of 284. The Pats 3rd round pick at 93 carries a value of 128. The assigned value of pick # 32 of the first round is 590. Our 2nd and 3rd round picks only amount to 379. That's over 200 value points SHORT of the 32nd pick in the 1st round. Perhaps you'd be willing to throw in BOTH 4ths too, but that would still be over 120 value points short...and we can't trade the second of the 4th's because it's a comp.

    So, no. The Pats cannot trade a 2nd and a 3rd and move into even the LAST pick of the first round.
     
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    I'm trying, but just can't get excited for this draft. I'll likely be watching the Bruins game instead.
     
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    Cruddell doesn't give a shyt about us long time NFL fans, Tunes. We'll be in nursing homes sipping oatmeal while this league reduces to the lowest common denominator, WWE level entertainment. The sport part of the game has been disfigured and bastardized by this greed driven stooge.
     
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    Moving the draft to May has been a disaster for the game, but Herr Goodell wants to see the TV ratings before possibly putting it back in April next year. Once again, the fantasy geeks will determine how things go.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/08/goodell-sees-real-value-in-may-draft/
     

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