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...B!tch...who just saw her hated rival with the same prom dress.

1. The fact that we are half way through the season and we are STILL unable to defend ANY kind of pass in the middle of the field underneath the safeties, just fries my ass It was unpleasant to see Keller catch about 3 of this kind of pass in game 2, but it was somewhat understandable,given the youth of the secondary at THAT time of the year. BUT its not game two anymore and its freakin' COLT McCOY throwing the passes to guys I never heard of before. And its not just the TE's. It seems like any receiver who wanders into the soft underbelly of the Pats defense in that part of the field is assured of free look. Yeah, he'll take a good lick....but only after he gets his 15-20 yd reception....usually on 3rd down.

Now I was only a HS coach, but I know damned well that there are coverages you can use that can eliminate that threat (albeit leave other areas weaker). Now if this just happened a couple of time a game, I'd feel better, but HOW MANY TIMES have we watch a 3rd and long get converted by one of those passes. HELLO....anyone home!!! Don't you think that teams will keep one throwing it, until the day comes that we start to DEFEND IT.

2. And if that's not frustrating enough, while every team from Colt McCoy to freakin' Ryan Fitzpatrick can seemingly complete that kind of throw with ease, we have a freakin' HOF QB who seem incapable of even attempting it. No our bread and butter seems to be throwing the ball 30 yds SIDEWAYS for 5 yd gains!!!!!!!!

Somehow, despite the so calledbroad complexity of our massive offensive playbook, seam passes in the middle and deep passes to the outside don't SEEM to be in there anymore. Every now and then we see a pass to Hernandez in that area....but there seems to be a one play LIMIT on how many times Brady can throw that pattern..

3. And speaking of the offensive pass game, what ever happened to throwing the deep back shoulder ball into man to man coverage. That's the pass where the ball is purposely slightly underthown, so the WR has to comeback for it a bit. Its an excellent pattern against the kind of man to man coverage we are seeing. Just another pass that DOESN'T seen to be in our repartoire.

4. And aren't you getting tired of watching the highlights every week and seening long passes being completed to receivers who seem to be fairly well covered, just because the QB gave them a chance to "make a play". Isn't that allowed on the Pats. Have we taken that play out of the books because most of our receivers are smaller than the CBs that cover them.

5. And don't tell me that our receivers are too young or inexperienced. How can we say that when we watch Rivers and Manning throw completions to practise squad WRs and TEs we have never heard of, or will likely ever hear of again. Don't tell me these guys are better than Brady...or are they?

I have watched Tate make great catches 3 or 4 deep passes. Unfortunately most of them were out of bounds, but that's not his fault. It shows the skill is there, we just have to target him more than 3 times a game. Tate is a guy who was supposed to be better than Hakeem Nicks.....well not so far he isn't....and I think its because he isn't getting enough chances.

6. Bottom line I'm getting tired of watching us have to complete 3 passes inorder to get one first down. I'm tired of watching other teams complete passes against us, that we seem incapable or reluctant to throw it. So THIS week, I want to see us DEFEND that damned seam pass.....AND THEN, I want to see us throw it against someone...more than once.

7. And I'm sick and tired of watching all the teams I hate win games they should be losing. The Jets are gifted their second game in a row by the Lions, while the Raider squeak by in a game they easily could have lost. So not only does my team get crushed last week, NONE of the teams I wanted to lose....LOST.

Hey, I'm old, so I deserve to be cranky occasionally.

There....I feel better.

That being said, we ARE 6-2 though after last week, it seems hard to believe. Just a few comments on that game.

a. Yeah we sucked, but that was clear for anyone to see, so that's all I'll say on that.
b. Peyton Hillis looked like the best back we've seen this season. The Pats have been an excellent tackling team to that point in the season, and I don't remember any back getting so much yardage AFTER first contact. What a nice back, very nimble too.
c. As much as I hate to say it, that 4th down sneak play with 3 layers of shifting was BRILLIANT - by the time the ball was snapped, we had no chance. The play on the GL was almost as good.
d. Tip of the cap to "the rat" and his minions. That was as good a game plan as I've seen from an opponent, in all 3 aspects of the game (O, D, ST's) during the BB era. Granted they had the extra week, but STILL.....

Finally a few comments on the Steeler game:

Its hard to think that after watching the Browns game that the Pats could somehow manage a win against the Steelers.... in Pittsburgh. At the Razor I might feel differently, but this is still a Pats team that hasn't faired well on the road to begin with, and now with a gimpy Brady, coming off a real dud on the the road the week before, I'm not holding out much hope for a win. Right now I'd just like to see them play a competitive game, a better game, regardless of the score.

For me that game we HAVE to win is the Colts game. No excuses there, if we are to be considered a true playoff contender.

Still, if this season has taught us anything is that any team can beat any team on a given Sunday, but our path to win has been clearly marked. We CANNOT turn the ball over. We must take the ball away a few times. We must play flawless special teams, and NOT take critical penalties. We do that and we can win a close game. Its the old Parcells formula. Just stick around so you are there at the end of game, and anything can happen

Now I have go and google Peyton Hillis to find out where this kid came from. Enjoy.
 
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Nothing more to add. That whining session pretty much covered everything I've been thinking too. Good job
 
That was some rant...
 
Sorry, couldn't read the whole thing but I skimmed and I think I got the right idea....

The Pats and the NFL piss me off
We're 6-2 though
Browns played good
Steelers game is not must win but go Pats!
Oh...and I saw that you're old
 
i've been po'd about the exact same things. thanks for saying it for me.
 
Great post Ken. The Raiders are driving me batsh!t. And then you add to it the value of someone like Seymour (playing at a high level) to this current Pats roster for reasons that have been noted ad nauseum here it becomes a little more annoying.

It's also at times like this that I wonder who they would have taken with the 1st rounder Goodell STOLE in 2007.

It also seems like they are playing from behind more than ever which sort of goes with your overall point, but I fully concede I may be imagining that.
 
I 100% support the OP's opinion. It really is ridicul9ous to see 3rd and long become more frightening then 3rd and short. Hell, I would like to see the Patriots stop anybody on 3rd down. We know the have the talent, so WTF!!!

Parcell's used to say that for every rookie you start, you will lose a game. Well, I count 3 rookies on defense and 2 rookies on offense....so, yeah.
 
Heh, now THAT is how you rant kiddies.
 
Thanks for these idle thoughts. You articulated in an excellent manner the thoughts of many of us, especially in the rant section.

The point on how no-name QB's complete 10+ yds against us on 3rd downs, whereas our HOF QB is more often leading his team out of the field on 3rd towns is a sad but valid one.

Hopefully that trend is reversed from tomorrow.

And, I feel we will return with an emphatic W tomorrow.

GO PATS!!
 
RE: Peyton Hillis....yes, he did look great last week. Is he an emerging star? It'll be interesting to see how he and the Browns O-Line look against the Jets D tomorrow.
 
I 100% support the OP's opinion. It really is ridicul9ous to see 3rd and long become more frightening then 3rd and short. Hell, I would like to see the Patriots stop anybody on 3rd down. We know the have the talent, so WTF!!!

Parcell's used to say that for every rookie you start, you will lose a game. Well, I count 3 rookies on defense and 2 rookies on offense....so, yeah.

I'll take it !! 11-5 could win the Division and should make the Pats playoff bound....

Nobody here believes this team is SB bound as of yet....but lights could start going on with the rookies and second year guys.....Branch may regain his old
form and get healthy fast....Taylor might have big games down the stretch....


Plenty to be excited about with this year's team and next year's also with a plethora of high picks....

Guess all we can do now is sit back and enjoy the ride......
 
100% agree with OP.

I blame a deeply flawed defensive coaching and game planning by BB. He is doing the same coverage for last 3 years and his team continues to be taken advantage of. His team is giving up HOF worthy (for opposite QBs) 70%pass completion and 95 passer rating, ON AVERAGE. Dead last (or near there) on 3rd downs. Year after year. Any other defensive coordinator with that track record would have been fired.

I am all for mixing it ups and changes. You could not get any worse. Looks like all the new rule changes (by Polian and Goodell) checkmated BB.

Thanks for these idle thoughts. You articulated in an excellent manner the thoughts of many of us, especially in the rant section.

The point on how no-name QB's complete 10+ yds against us on 3rd downs, whereas our HOF QB is more often leading his team out of the field on 3rd towns is a sad but valid one.

Hopefully that trend is reversed from tomorrow.

And, I feel we will return with an emphatic W tomorrow.

GO PATS!!
 
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The deep passes make me wonder if Tom lacks confidence in Tate and the others. He threw a perfect strike to Tate that hit him in the numbers and would have converted a third down, but fell to the ground.

The more I think about it, the more it seems Tom is lacking trust in his receivers. Even his mechanics looked a bit off against Cleveland, like he was hesitating at times, which led to some errant throws. There were also some bad routes run by receivers which probably doesn't encourage his faith in them.

But it's early. Our most experienced receiver is coming back from major surgery. I should probably count Twiggy as our most experienced, but he hasn't played for us in 5 years...and the rest are kids in their first season, with Tate having played one game last year before getting injured.

Manning has worked in a lot of kids and deserves a lot of credit, but it hasn't always been an easy transition. Plus he always had a consistent foundation of Clark and Wayne to set the tone. Now Clark is gone, and Manning's completed less than 60% of his passes since the injury. It's a very small sample size of 2 games, but it's something worth keeping an eye on for Colts fans too.

I think one of the problems of a young team is they are inconsistent, they are up and down. They read the press clippings, they probably got full of themselves last week after reading all the wonderful things the world was writing about us. And they were humbled. I expect a good game against Pittsburgh.
 
It's as if Ken is channeling...That was almost NEMesque in it's focus and simplicity...
 
Great post Ken. The Raiders are driving me batsh!t. And then you add to it the value of someone like Seymour (playing at a high level) to this current Pats roster for reasons that have been noted ad nauseum here it becomes a little more annoying.

Richard Seymour 40 Tackles; 4.5 Sacks
Vince Wilfork 26 Tackles; 0 Sacks
Gerard Warren 12 Tackles; 2.0 Sacks
Mike Wright 11 Tackles; 4.0 Sacks
Clay Matthews 31 Tackles; 10.5 Sacks
Haloti Ngata 48 Tackles; 5 Sacks

Not sure if we could have paid him $12.5M, but clearly the talk that Seymour is done is a bit premature
 
Great post Ken. The Raiders are driving me batsh!t. And then you add to it the value of someone like Seymour (playing at a high level) to this current Pats roster for reasons that have been noted ad nauseum here it becomes a little more annoying.

It's also at times like this that I wonder who they would have taken with the 1st rounder Goodell STOLE in 2007.

It also seems like they are playing from behind more than ever which sort of goes with your overall point, but I fully concede I may be imagining that.

I could care less about how Seymour plays THIS year. He was never going to come back to NE after his contract was over. His demands didn't meet his value, it was as simple as that. The only year his play really mattered was last year....and that was pretty unforgetable IIRC.

I'm happy he's playing well, and I hope he gets his big contract somewhere next season (preferably not in the AFCE). Would he look good in a Pats uni right now. Of course, but who do you subtract from the team for that to happen, because there is only so much money to go around. Do you keep him instead of Wilfolk long term? Ty Warren? Brady? You weren't going to keep all of them plus Seymour.

So what if Seymour is having a good season. So what if he's a good influence in a lockerroom where anything would be an improvement. The point is that Seymour would have made little difference in 2009 and would have been gone in 2010. The point is that the Pats got some value in return for a diminishing asset. Why should we hate that the Raiders got some value in return. They are certainly paying top dollar for it.
 
I could care less about how Seymour plays THIS year. He was never going to come back to NE after his contract was over. His demands didn't meet his value, it was as simple as that. The only year his play really mattered was last year....and that was pretty unforgetable IIRC.

I'm happy he's playing well, and I hope he gets his big contract somewhere next season (preferably not in the AFCE). Would he look good in a Pats uni right now. Of course, but who do you subtract from the team for that to happen, because there is only so much money to go around. Do you keep him instead of Wilfolk long term? Ty Warren? Brady? You weren't going to keep all of them plus Seymour.

So what if Seymour is having a good season. So what if he's a good influence in a lockerroom where anything would be an improvement. The point is that Seymour would have made little difference in 2009 and would have been gone in 2010. The point is that the Pats got some value in return for a diminishing asset. Why should we hate that the Raiders got some value in return. They are certainly paying top dollar for it.

We hate the Raiders for it for the reason you ranted about--his play is contributing to their record=hurting our pick. It's more than a little frustrating the Raiders have improved (finally) when we have their pick. Ah well.

Your frustration about completions to the middle of the field is shared by many/all.....It's 3rd & 8! Get ready for the 12-yard completion! Drives everyone batty.
 
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