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It's taken me a bit longer to get to the point when I can get this started. I hadn't even gone to the site to check on other's comments. But it's Monday and it's time to face the reality of this game, both the good (and there WAS a lot of good) and bad. Clearly there was a lot of good, just as a lot of bad reared its ugly head in the 2nd half. Let's unpack it all and hope it leads to better things.

It has been a while since this team has seen some adversity and adversity is the fire on which great teams are hardened. We took a step back today that's for sure. We have a tough AWAY game next week against another MVP QB, who is rounding into that mvp shape after an injury filled season. I will be interested to see how this team responds this week. All is not lost, though the bye week seems like it's off the table. So let's unpack this mess and see if we can make some sense of it.

It couldn't have started better. 3 three and outs to START the game in stark contrast to most of the season, and 4 scoring drives, all on the ground. Stevenson was having his best game of the year. The OL were creating visible holes to run thru and for the first time (it seems) our RB's were getting to the 2nd level without being touched. We even had a nice drive at the end of the half to answer the only Buffalo score. Though, I wonder about the strategy of trading the 4 more points we might have gotten from a TD vs the risk of leaving Buffalo with about a minute left if we failed to move the ball. I understand the calculation, and it's not wrong most of the time, but given how the game was going at THAT point, I might have gone all out for the TD and saved some time for the Red zone.

So how does a team that usually makes the better adjustments after half time come out and allows 28 points and scores only 7 and not give up a TO? I think it comes down to these factors.

1. Key injuries - Losing Williams has hurt more than expected. Going from one of the best run defenses in the league to one of the worst right after his injury can't just be a coincidence. And then there was the fact Spillane never got off the bench accounts for the other part of the problem. He has been a ROCK in the middle during the run. Well, the rock wasn't there, and other people had to move and leave position where they have thrived to compensate, and the second level got a little bit weaker all around and with a guy like Cook, just a little bit can make all the difference.

2. Drake Maye - Maye actually LOOKED like an up-and-coming 2nd year 23-year-old tackling a new system and coaching staff. The pinpoint accuracy wasn't always there. The picture-perfect decision making didn't always show up. He was sacked 3 times and imo on 2 he seemed to have run himself INTO the sack when he had a opportunity to run away from it. Horror of horrors the kid made some WRONG decisions. But what was worse was that he had a chance to get his FIRST game winning 4th quarter drive and failed... miserably. There was the chance to make an MVP statement and he bombed, plain and simple

3. The receiving corps - This one is a bit nitpicking to say the least. There were 2 plays where missed catches dearly cost the Pats. The most obvious was the Henry "drop" on the final drive. It wasn't a great pass, and behind him, but one he usually makes and MIGHT have been the spark that got them going. 2nd, was a long pass in the endzone that hit Hollins' hands. Granted it would have been a remarkable catch in a game when Hollins had already made multiple remarkable catches, but it's the kind of a timely catch that our receivers have been making all year. Like I said, I'm nitpicking here. And how about Boutte getting only ONE target?

4. Coaching - Not saying I had the answers, but it seemed all year Josh was scheming our receivers open and suddenly in THIS game that wasn't happening very often, and I don't know why (though I plan to watch again later this week). So naturally I'll blame Josh for it. BTW GREAT job on the scheming up the run game. Then there was the stat they showed where they noted the Pats had called 6 designed runs this season for Drake and added another yesterday, that is WAY too few. 2-3 per GAME should be more like it. First, he's good at it, 2nd if you make it a real threat, then it will open up other things because you have to defend it,

5. On the defensive side, I saw early in the game the use of the 5-man front with someone on the nose a few times on run downs and it was pretty successful. I don't remember seeing much in the 2nd half except a few times on passing down when they were looking to blitz. Also, there were a LOT of missed tackles on Allen in the backfield in this game, but that's on the players. They should have had at LEAST 3 more sacks and that would have made a difference.

6. The refs - I don't usually cite the refs because I expect bad or suspect calls to go against because they also go for me at times. Take for example the long pass on the first TD drive that a case could have been made wasn't a catch was missed. But a case could also be made that AFTER that play the refs spent the rest of the game trying to make up for that call. What I cannot abide is when they made several ticky tack calls AGAINST the Pats and then let EGGREGIOUS holding calls go unnoticed time and time again. It was infuriating and needs to be called out.

7 Take aways, or lack thereof. - Every year you get teams like the Bears and Broncos who have huge pluses in TO ratio and that has helped them in winning a LOT of their games or rather keeps them from losing them. We didn't lose any TO's on Sunday but if you want to look at the difference in the 2 Bills games just look at the TOs We have had teams which seemed to be good at taking the ball away but why that happens cannot be counted on. Every team is teaching their tacklers to punch at the ball

8. KO coverage - Someone on the Bills spotted something on the tape because our usually reliable KO coverage shat the bed and gave up over 40 yds in returns on average. 2 times in a row the KO was brought back to our side of the 50 on the first 2 drives of 2nd half. We didn't have any TO's but those 2 returns in particular were like TOs to some degree in that with just one play they completely changed field position.

Now, this wasn't a disaster either. We lost a game by 4 points to one of the heavy favorites for the superbowl with the MVP QB who threw for just 197 yds There were some good things,

1. Tre Henderson continued his upward trajectory. I actually saw him make someone miss a tackle on a cut back instead of just blindly running straight ahead as hard as he can. His 2 long TD's were his usual just running away from everyone and were spectacular. It should also be mentioned that Stevenson averaged 8ypc as well as the OL opened some gaping holes today. Those were the 3 obvious standouts today, Henderson, Stevenson, and the OL

2. Mack Hollins looked like an elite #1 out there today. Well, that may be an overstatement, but he made some great grabs and seemed to be more open more often than our other receivers. BTW- Boutte had just ONE target and made a great catch. Why didn't he get more?

On to the Ravens - We go and play another desperate team, on the road, with an improving defense that just pitched a shutout (yeah, I know it was against the Jete, but I'm trying to make a point here). It will be a real hostile environment. I think I hate the Ravens more than any other team, they are a sneaky backstabbing organization. First to bend the rules and first to run to the league and claim foul, RLKAG!!!!!!!!\

At any rate, let us see how we react to a bad game, How we respond to this adversity, Is Drake just another nice young QB prospect, or is he really the "second coming",
 
Defense, missing two key players who helped turn the defense around got exposed a bit. They had a fantastic draft and free agency, but the roster was very thin to begin with and they lack depth.

We were 2-2 before Gonzo came back. They don’t really have the depth to fill in for key injuries.

Only thing I really took away from the game is that a young LB who can cover needs to be a priority along with OL.
 
Yeah Drake had a tough second half but so did the coaching staff. Take the reins off the kid, and if he sees he can run let him.
 
Great stuff here, and not too much to disagree with for my part.

I feel like the whole "not playing a full 60 minutes" is possibly part of that young team/rebuild experience that should hopefully get ironed out. It'd be ideal if we can do this in time for the playoffs, because we will need to be that team that ran up a 21-0 score for at least 3 quarters, if not 4, in order to win this whole damned thing.
 
Defense, missing two key players who helped turn the defense around got exposed a bit. They had a fantastic draft and free agency, but the roster was very thin to begin with and they lack depth.

We were 2-2 before Gonzo came back. They don’t really have the depth to fill in for key injuries.

Only thing I really took away from the game is that a young LB who can cover needs to be a priority along with OL.

I keep hearing people say "yeah, well, Buffalo was missing people too", but that's the point of this. We don't yet have the depth to cover for those injuries. We'll get there, hopefully. Being able to patch up injuries was a major, and underrated, factor in our dynastic run.
 
I keep hearing people say "yeah, well, Buffalo was missing people too", but that's the point of this. We don't yet have the depth to cover for those injuries. We'll get there, hopefully. Being able to patch up injuries was a major, and underrated, factor in our dynastic run.
The Pats were slaughtering them in the first half… then got complacent. It wasn’t a lack of talent… more experience.
 
Agree just about all of this, and with this point especially:
"We lost by 4 points to one of the heavy favorites for the superbowl with the MVP QB who threw for just 197 yards."

Around here we're seeing some "they crapped the bed/it was worse than the score indicated/etc." reactions. When we beat them earlier in the year, it was a 3-point game. This was a 4-point game. Something tells me we see them in January, and my guess it that it will be a battle again.

I got a little bit of the feeling that we wanted to calmly, professionally try to be the last team to score... a little bit stiff, a little bit conservative... We did put up 31 for the length of the game, but we couldn't put up 7 when we needed it. On D, we performed like I wish I could afford to travel, with zero stops.

The main thing here isn't the outcome, though a victorious Bills-thrashing would have been great... it's what you can/can't read into it. For this season at least, are we keeping Drake Maye in high-percentage, no-mistakes territory a little too much? Is that the reason for the 300-yard ceiling? (He had a lot of leeway before that ceiling applied here... I think he threw for under 150... granted, against an elite pass D... but do we get to see another gear this year, perhaps in the post-season?) Or is this the time that we're molding his game to the NFL, avoiding heroics? Somebody else can break down how much was Drake and how much was coaching, re: being mistake-free vs. a hero... but yes, the game was bigger than him this time out. You want the QB to take charge of a game in that situation and it did not happen. Lack o' Magic.

The team's 2 headed monster backfield has me giddy. And w Buffalo's highly rated pass D on the other side of the ball, good on the Pats to feed them both, though all offensive production decreased in the second half, home-run run aside. A quick google says Rham is ours for '26-'27? This will help Maye a lot during what we have to remember is a development curve.

What does Williams bring back with him when he returns, possibly 12/28? We know Campbell brings a big boost to the offense. Everybody has injuries, and ours are significant but not crippling. That said, we stand to see a big step up with these two. Reading on the Spillane decision, and reading how Vrabel talks about managing the other injuries, speaks to a measured and professional approach, i.e., not rushing guys back.
 
The Pats were slaughtering them in the first half… then got complacent. It wasn’t a lack of talent… more experience.

I'm looking forward to seeing some of the all-22 analysis out there, but my suspicion was that Buffalo keyed in on the areas where we were thin in the second half.

Complacency is definitely a factor...has been at least a few times.
 
Thank you, Ken!

Another Idle Thought.

The Patriots made a great challenge on the Brandin Cooks catch. And that was not the first one this season by any means. I'm remembering the Ellis punchout for a fumble, which they challenged and won, as another one that I didn't see. And I can't remember them losing a challenge.

That is enormously to the credit of John Streicher.

(One of the things I noticed in the later days of BB was that the Patriots' challenges weren't as sharp and well-judged -- a sign that it was time for Ernie Adams to retire, which he then did.)
 
It's taken me a bit longer to get to the point when I can get this started. I hadn't even gone to the site to check on other's comments. But it's Monday and it's time to face the reality of this game, both the good (and there WAS a lot of good) and bad. Clearly there was a lot of good, just as a lot of bad reared its ugly head in the 2nd half. Let's unpack it all and hope it leads to better things.

It has been a while since this team has seen some adversity and adversity is the fire on which great teams are hardened. We took a step back today that's for sure. We have a tough AWAY game next week against another MVP QB, who is rounding into that mvp shape after an injury filled season. I will be interested to see how this team responds this week. All is not lost, though the bye week seems like it's off the table. So let's unpack this mess and see if we can make some sense of it.

It couldn't have started better. 3 three and outs to START the game in stark contrast to most of the season, and 4 scoring drives, all on the ground. Stevenson was having his best game of the year. The OL were creating visible holes to run thru and for the first time (it seems) our RB's were getting to the 2nd level without being touched. We even had a nice drive at the end of the half to answer the only Buffalo score. Though, I wonder about the strategy of trading the 4 more points we might have gotten from a TD vs the risk of leaving Buffalo with about a minute left if we failed to move the ball. I understand the calculation, and it's not wrong most of the time, but given how the game was going at THAT point, I might have gone all out for the TD and saved some time for the Red zone.

So how does a team that usually makes the better adjustments after half time come out and allows 28 points and scores only 7 and not give up a TO? I think it comes down to these factors.

1. Key injuries - Losing Williams has hurt more than expected. Going from one of the best run defenses in the league to one of the worst right after his injury can't just be a coincidence. And then there was the fact Spillane never got off the bench accounts for the other part of the problem. He has been a ROCK in the middle during the run. Well, the rock wasn't there, and other people had to move and leave position where they have thrived to compensate, and the second level got a little bit weaker all around and with a guy like Cook, just a little bit can make all the difference.

2. Drake Maye - Maye actually LOOKED like an up-and-coming 2nd year 23-year-old tackling a new system and coaching staff. The pinpoint accuracy wasn't always there. The picture-perfect decision making didn't always show up. He was sacked 3 times and imo on 2 he seemed to have run himself INTO the sack when he had a opportunity to run away from it. Horror of horrors the kid made some WRONG decisions. But what was worse was that he had a chance to get his FIRST game winning 4th quarter drive and failed... miserably. There was the chance to make an MVP statement and he bombed, plain and simple

3. The receiving corps - This one is a bit nitpicking to say the least. There were 2 plays where missed catches dearly cost the Pats. The most obvious was the Henry "drop" on the final drive. It wasn't a great pass, and behind him, but one he usually makes and MIGHT have been the spark that got them going. 2nd, was a long pass in the endzone that hit Hollins' hands. Granted it would have been a remarkable catch in a game when Hollins had already made multiple remarkable catches, but it's the kind of a timely catch that our receivers have been making all year. Like I said, I'm nitpicking here. And how about Boutte getting only ONE target?

4. Coaching - Not saying I had the answers, but it seemed all year Josh was scheming our receivers open and suddenly in THIS game that wasn't happening very often, and I don't know why (though I plan to watch again later this week). So naturally I'll blame Josh for it. BTW GREAT job on the scheming up the run game. Then there was the stat they showed where they noted the Pats had called 6 designed runs this season for Drake and added another yesterday, that is WAY too few. 2-3 per GAME should be more like it. First, he's good at it, 2nd if you make it a real threat, then it will open up other things because you have to defend it,

5. On the defensive side, I saw early in the game the use of the 5-man front with someone on the nose a few times on run downs and it was pretty successful. I don't remember seeing much in the 2nd half except a few times on passing down when they were looking to blitz. Also, there were a LOT of missed tackles on Allen in the backfield in this game, but that's on the players. They should have had at LEAST 3 more sacks and that would have made a difference.

6. The refs - I don't usually cite the refs because I expect bad or suspect calls to go against because they also go for me at times. Take for example the long pass on the first TD drive that a case could have been made wasn't a catch was missed. But a case could also be made that AFTER that play the refs spent the rest of the game trying to make up for that call. What I cannot abide is when they made several ticky tack calls AGAINST the Pats and then let EGGREGIOUS holding calls go unnoticed time and time again. It was infuriating and needs to be called out.

7 Take aways, or lack thereof. - Every year you get teams like the Bears and Broncos who have huge pluses in TO ratio and that has helped them in winning a LOT of their games or rather keeps them from losing them. We didn't lose any TO's on Sunday but if you want to look at the difference in the 2 Bills games just look at the TOs We have had teams which seemed to be good at taking the ball away but why that happens cannot be counted on. Every team is teaching their tacklers to punch at the ball

8. KO coverage - Someone on the Bills spotted something on the tape because our usually reliable KO coverage shat the bed and gave up over 40 yds in returns on average. 2 times in a row the KO was brought back to our side of the 50 on the first 2 drives of 2nd half. We didn't have any TO's but those 2 returns in particular were like TOs to some degree in that with just one play they completely changed field position.

Now, this wasn't a disaster either. We lost a game by 4 points to one of the heavy favorites for the superbowl with the MVP QB who threw for just 197 yds There were some good things,

1. Tre Henderson continued his upward trajectory. I actually saw him make someone miss a tackle on a cut back instead of just blindly running straight ahead as hard as he can. His 2 long TD's were his usual just running away from everyone and were spectacular. It should also be mentioned that Stevenson averaged 8ypc as well as the OL opened some gaping holes today. Those were the 3 obvious standouts today, Henderson, Stevenson, and the OL

2. Mack Hollins looked like an elite #1 out there today. Well, that may be an overstatement, but he made some great grabs and seemed to be more open more often than our other receivers. BTW- Boutte had just ONE target and made a great catch. Why didn't he get more?

On to the Ravens - We go and play another desperate team, on the road, with an improving defense that just pitched a shutout (yeah, I know it was against the Jete, but I'm trying to make a point here). It will be a real hostile environment. I think I hate the Ravens more than any other team, they are a sneaky backstabbing organization. First to bend the rules and first to run to the league and claim foul, RLKAG!!!!!!!!\

At any rate, let us see how we react to a bad game, How we respond to this adversity, Is Drake just another nice young QB prospect, or is he really the "second coming",
I think you summed it up pretty well. I do feel better after watching Evan's After Further Review. Henry and Hollins seem to make those catches every time; they just didn't this time. Give Buffalo credit for changing up the defense at halftime. While Maye could have been better, the only real criticism I have is not getting to the offside crosser. Evan noted it on a play crossing left to right and I remember in the game near the end he was sacked with a right to left crosser available in front of him. I know that might be getting to the 4th read but he had time, and the option was there.
 
As I’ve said in other threads, there seemed to be a lot of overreaction to the Buffalo loss.

The Pats were beating the Bills asses all first half, then inexplicably just completely came undone in the 2nd half.

Plus, there were some incredibly egregious calls that would have ended Buffalo drives or kept Patriots drives going deep into the Bills red zone. Had just one of those calls not gone against the Pats, we’d all be sitting here now with the AFC East title won and the media heads applauding the brave Buffalo comeback that just failed at the end.

There’s still a lot of football to be played and some of it is going to be in the postseason, something we’ve not said around here for a while.

The loss has happened and the Pats aren’t the only team in the history of the game to blow a 21 point lead and lose.

They have to forget about it now and focus on beating the Ravens.
 
On to the Ravens - We go and play another desperate team, on the road, with an improving defense that just pitched a shutout (yeah, I know it was against the Jete, but I'm trying to make a point here). It will be a real hostile environment. I think I hate the Ravens more than any other team, they are a sneaky backstabbing organization. First to bend the rules and first to run to the league and claim foul, RLKAG!!!!!!!!\

At any rate, let us see how we react to a bad game, How we respond to this adversity, Is Drake just another nice young QB prospect, or is he really the "second coming",
Just a nit, but it was the Bengals the Ravens just shut out.
 
1. Tre Henderson continued his upward trajectory. I actually saw him make someone miss a tackle on a cut back instead of just blindly running straight ahead as hard as he can. His 2 long TD's were his usual just running away from everyone and were spectacular. It should also be mentioned that Stevenson averaged 8ypc as well as the OL opened some gaping holes today. Those were the 3 obvious standouts today, Henderson, Stevenson, and the OL
I am not shutting up about the fact that, with the ball, all three timeouts, the two minute warning, in four down territory, needing a touchdown, facing a defense that can not stop the run but is ranked second in the league against the pass, McDaniels...dropped the quarterback back to pass repeatedly, suicidally, virtually conceding the contest.
 
I am not shutting up about the fact that, with the ball, all three timeouts, the two minute warning, in four down territory, needing a touchdown, facing a defense that can not stop the run but is ranked second in the league against the pass, McDaniels...dropped the quarterback back to pass repeatedly, suicidally, virtually conceding the contest.
Fair criticism. Although they flip side of that is, their secondary is depleted, their pass rush is opportunistic at best (most pressure was due to Maye holding the ball and not being decisive), and if your QB is actually an MVP candidate, you have to feel secure enough to put it in his hands.

You do have a point though, what's to say Henderson doesn't rip off another 70 yarder.
 
It's taken me a bit longer to get to the point when I can get this started. .................... I think it comes down to these factors.

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8. KO coverage - Someone on the Bills spotted something on the tape because our usually reliable KO coverage shat the bed and gave up over 40 yds in returns on average. 2 times in a row the KO was brought back to our side of the 50 on the first 2 drives of 2nd half. We didn't have any TO's but those 2 returns in particular were like TOs to some degree in that with just one play they completely changed field position.
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At any rate, let us see how we react to a bad game, How we respond to this adversity, Is Drake just another nice young QB prospect, or is he really the "second coming",

At least one X poster (forget who) identified the culprit in KO coverage as Caleb Murphy.
He was cut on Mon, 15 Dec 25 at 4pm.
circumstantial evidence; but seems 'consequential rather than coincidental"

Particularly, since they replaced the LB with another LB on 16 Dec with the second transaction.

Patriots Waive LB Caleb Murphy​

The Patriots announced that they have waived LB Caleb Murphy. Murphy was claimed by New England off waivers from the Los Angeles Chargers on Oct. 20, 2025.​



The New England Patriots announced that they have signed LB Chad Muma off the Indianapolis practice squad.

[ps/edit: it may not have been tape study; but rather just piss-poor execution by a guy who didnt deserve to be off the PS, apparently.]
 
For some reason many of the games here don't seem to understand that reason Drake Maye hasn't been leading game winning drives is because he has them ahead every week. And last year he was surrounded by absolute dogshit and they were getting their asses handed to them every week.

My younger brother had it right, as he would always say to me " I love the Patriots, it's their fans who suck."
 
For some reason many of the games here don't seem to understand that reason Drake Maye hasn't been leading game winning drives is because he has them ahead every week. And last year he was surrounded by absolute dogshit and they were getting their asses handed to them every week.

My younger brother had it right, as he would always say to me " I love the Patriots, it's their fans who suck."
He is a smart guy.
 
For some reason many of the games here don't seem to understand that reason Drake Maye hasn't been leading game winning drives is because he has them ahead every week. And last year he was surrounded by absolute dogshit and they were getting their asses handed to them every week.

My younger brother had it right, as he would always say to me " I love the Patriots, it's their fans who suck."
Well said
 
I think we were shown to be what any reasonably objective observer will have said all along we are: a rebuilding team which, though the rebuild is obviously not complete, has made remarkable progress over the course of the season.

If you expect your every hope and happy delusion to be fulfilled or for perfection to be the order of every day, you are just bound to be disappointed. It's hard to see clearly when you are madly waving pom poms in front of your eyes.
 
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