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Herm Edwards to Chiefs?

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Tagliabue may get involved in Herm trade to KC

Found this over at JI
Deal for Edwards A Work In Progress


Edwards and Bradway could be parting company. By Nick Athan
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Date: Jan 4, 2006

Despite reports out of New York from WFAN radio that a deal is imminent that would clear the way for Herman Edwards to become the Chiefs 10th head coach, the Jets and Kansas City still have to bridge the gap on draft pick compensation that would appease both sides.

After Oklahoma Sooners Head Coach Bob Stoops officially announced that he’s not a coaching candidate for NFL job late Wednesday afternoon, the Kansas City Chiefs turned their efforts to trying to secure the services of New York Jets Head Coach Herman Edwards.

Early Wednesday morning Denver sports radio personality Dino Costa broke the news that the Chiefs and Jets had worked out a deal and that Kansas City would hold a press conference on Friday to announce Edwards as their new head coach. That report triggered an avalanche of internet fodder and caused cellular phones to light up from the Midwest to the East coast.

In the end Costa’s report might be true but as of Wednesday evening, the deal was still in a holding pattern somewhere over New York.

The question facing the Jets and the Chiefs is the actual status of Herman Edwards. The Chiefs position is simple. If the current Jets head coach is allowed to talk to other teams or he's going to be fired by the Jets as some have suggested, then technically Kansas City considers Edwards as someone who is or soon will be without employment.

Thus he technically could be free to negotiate with any team. That’s how his agent, Gary O’Hagan feels. In fact O’Hagan is attempting to get a cash settlement from the Jets so his client can negotiate with any team but more importantly he's attempting to make up for the bad contract his client signed with another agent three years ago.

Which makes the Jets look even more foolish for allowing this saga to drag out since October when they could have settled this matter months ago.

On the other hand, the Jets position is he’s not fired (yet) and they correctly point out that he has two years left on his contract, thus they can afford to play hard ball with his agent and the Chiefs.

But for the right price, they are more than willing to let Edwards walk to Kansas City. Even if Edwards quits, the Jets know they hold his rights for another two years.

This is where the fun begins.

Edwards has made it clear that (if he is going to stay in New York) he wants a contract extension and he wants to get paid as if the Jets consider him their long term head coach. As stated, Edwards has two years left on his current deal that will pay him a little more than $3 million. That's far below the current market value for experienced NFL head coaches. Especially one who has taken his team to the playoffs three out of the last five seasons.

In contrast on Tuesday afternoon, Washington Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams signed a three year contract extension that will guarantee him $8 million.

What’s wrong with this picture?

Daniel Snyder is willing to spend money while Jets owner Woody Johnson does not want to spend any of the money he inherited earlier in his life. That's his right.

At the core of the problem is the state of the Jets franchise. They are are owned by a trust fund baby, an architect and the General Manager who has ties to the enemy, that of course being the Kansas Chiefs. They can’t win in this deal.

But despite that obvious fact, the Jets think they have the upper hand with their lame duck coach. In reality they don't. They appear willing to keep their unhappy coach under any circumstance rather than give in to the obvious play.

Edwards knows his future is not with the New York Jets and everyone agrees he’s destined to be the Chiefs next head coach. Oh sure, Edwards can spew the company line to appease the media but NOT all of us are that stupid. Neither, to his credit, is Jets General Manager Terry Bradway. He’s going to play the only hand he has.

So now Bradway, who is scheduled to address the media Thursday morning to wrap up the 2005 season, will instead be blitzed by the New York media about the ongoing tug-of-war between the Chiefs (not the sharks) and the Jets over fair compensation for the services of Edwards.

Bradway has more than likely been instructed by team owner Woody Johnson to ask for a pair of first day draft picks for Edwards. The Chiefs have offered a fifth and sixth round pick and the Jets are holding out for a fourth and a fifth but the Chiefs are not budging.

In the end, this deal will likely get done but it will take NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue to get involved to settle the dispute.

The head of the most powerful sports enterprise on the planet does not want anything to interfere or distract the nation’s number one television market before the start of the NFL playoffs that are set to begin this Saturday in of all cities New York. He does not want the focus to be on the coaching riff between these two teams, not in his backyard and not when the national spotlight is on his sport.

So if the Chiefs and the Jets can’t get this deal done by themselves before Saturday morning, they’ll turn this over to the commissioner and he’ll likely make the final determination that will settle this off-the-field battle once and for all.

And when its all over, each side will claim victory. The Jets will have a new head coach (someone the fans won’t like either) and the Chiefs will have the one man they truly wanted to succeed the recently retired **** Vermeil.

from chiefs.scout.com
 
What a great day to be a Patriot!

First off, the same people who have made all the last few years Jets picks, will still be picking, so no problems about them getting more picks.
Secondly, they are going to replace Herm with Haslett, no updrade there, and their are more than a few players on the JETS, that would play as hard for Haslett than they did for Herm.

Next the Bills are going to give the GM riegns over to Marv Levy, Marv Levy, I thought he was dead! Eighty years old, (80), I can see the meetings now,
with Marv spouting out suguestions for their new coach and his staff having to inform him, so Marv, But I pretty sure George Allen is dead.

Either way, that is four wins you can pencil in for next year, and the year after......
 
FreeTedWilliams said:
What a great day to be a Patriot!

First off, the same people who have made all the last few years Jets picks, will still be picking, so no problems about them getting more picks.

Roberson, Vilma, Rhodes, Houston...With the exception of Nugent, I think the Jets have drafted pretty well Post-Parcells.

Next the Bills are going to give the GM riegns over to Marv Levy, Marv Levy, I thought he was dead! Eighty years old, (80), I can see the meetings now,
with Marv spouting out suguestions for their new coach and his staff having to inform him, so Marv, But I pretty sure George Allen is dead.

That's funny. Like the time Monty Burns was trying to sign up softball ringers. "Cap Anson, Honus Wagner, Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown"...

"Sir, these players have all, well, moved on. In fact, your right fielder's been dead for ninety years."
 
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dryheat44 said:
Roberson, Vilma, Rhodes, Houston...With the exception of Nugent, I think the Jets have drafted pretty well Post-Parcells.



That's funny. Like the time Monty Burns was trying to sign up softball ringers. "Cap Anson, Honus Wagner, Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown"...

"Sir, these players have all, well, moved on. In fact, your right fielder's been dead for ninety years."

Nothing against old people(I just got my AARP card ) but is there like a geriatric movement going on in the NFL?
 
PatsChick87 said:
Nothing against old people(I just got my AARP card ) but is there like a geriatric movement going on in the NFL?

Seeing as Ralph Wilson has decided to take over as President of his franchise, Marv Levy is just a kid GM. Mularkey has been told he may or may not be kept on (depending I guess on whether or not they can find a more mature replacement), and if he is retained the youngster's coaching staff will be selected by the "senior" management.

As for the JETS/Chiefs, they can spin this any way they want and they'll still both come up losers. KC gets to replace a hugger with a couple of Superbowl rings with a hugger with none, and a losing record. And the JETS get to replace one coach who has never won a thing and is prone to media fueled late season meltdowns with another, who had an issue with playing his teams home games in Giants Stadium.....

 
Any front office that takes a 4th and a 5th for their head coach that still has 2 years left on his contract should be shot. (Even if that coach is Herm)
 
huskeralk said:
Sounds like Peterson is balking at the deal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2281478

Nah...that's the same thing all the stories are saying. Peterson is just trying to play cat and mouse with Bradway to see if he can get Herm for what he's really worth - nothing. And Bradway is just trying to get something for a guy who obviously wants out. And Herm's agent is just trying to squeeze a few dollars more out of either end of the deal.
 
T-ShirtDynasty said:
Any front office that takes a 4th and a 5th for their head coach that still has 2 years left on his contract should be shot. (Even if that coach is Herm)

Dude, this is Herm. A 4th. and 5th. is a heist for the Jets. Corky from Life Goes On has more value as a head coach than Herm Edwards.
 
huskeralk said:
Dude, this is Herm. A 4th. and 5th. is a heist for the Jets. Corky from Life Goes On has more value as a head coach than Herm Edwards.

I just wet myself!!!!!!!! Too funny!

Didn't KC give a 2nd and a 3rd to St. Louis for Vermiel?

Vermiel has taken two different teams to the Superbowl and won one of them. So if he is worth a 2nd and 3rd round pick, what Herm worth? A bar of soap?
 
Pats_Bryan said:
Martz, who, as far as I can tell, has no soul, will be snatched up by someone.

I have to agree, Martz is evil. I don't know why, but the way he composes himself just says "I strangle children" to me. He's a vicious guy at least, we've seen that.
 
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huskeralk said:
Dude, this is Herm. A 4th. and 5th. is a heist for the Jets. Corky from Life Goes On has more value as a head coach than Herm Edwards.
You don't have to convince me, I think clearly Hermie Baby is the poster boy for all-talk-no-brains lovey-touchy-feely incompetence. However, the Jets FO holds all the cards. They've got their coach locked up for 2 more years, and KC actually WANTS him (why is beyond me) all they had to say was "We're not interested in letting him go, but we'll listen to reasonable offers." instead, they get into this pissing contest over how much he's actually worth. I'm not sure who's more incopentent, Herm or the entire Jests front office.

Would I give a 4th and a 5th for Herm "what clock?" Edwards? Hell no, but if the Jests can't get more than that from a team that has been drooling over Edwards for the last two months, then they're morons.

And by the way, yes... KC gave up a 2nd and 3rd for Vermeil, but he was actually retired at the time, NOT actively a head coach for the Rams (even though he was still technically under contract to the Rams). Hermie is THE active HC for the Jests and they're dcking around talking about a 4th and 5th? They're fools.
 
T-ShirtDynasty said:
Any front office that takes a 4th and a 5th for their head coach that still has 2 years left on his contract should be shot. (Even if that coach is Herm)


Say you tell KC that it's a 2nd and a 3rd and they say 'no'. You then either have Herm as your coach for at least another season or you fire him and KC gets him for nothing. If you want to keep your coach, it's a no-brainer, as you say. If you don't then you're ahead whatever you get -- someone is paying you to take away your trash.

Sounds to me that there is only one conclusion: the Jesters want to give Herm the bullet anyway.
 
Mike the Brit said:
Sounds to me that there is only one conclusion: the Jesters want to give Herm the bullet anyway.
Totally, but their mistake was letting KC know that. KC doesn't want to get into a bidding war with the other teams that may be interested in the Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' One... but by asking for a 4th and 5th, the Jests tipped their hand already and blew it.

Oh well... bring on Haslett.
 
Schefter on Total Access reports Herm is out as Jets HC, negotiations with KC are still ongoing to determine what he is worth to KC.
 
The Jests fans have been very bitter that BB did not want to be their head coach.

Now, maybe they will understand why he didn't want to coach there. BB knew that the owner and the front office were morons.
 
T-ShirtDynasty said:
Two Thoughts...

1) ...No, No, No, NO!!!!!!!! We want Hermie Baby staying right in the AFC East please. We NEED him here.

2) ...Why in the world would you give up draft picks for Herm 'what game clock' Edwards?!? There's GOT to be a better waste of your picks than that.

Exactly right! I came here to post this, but T-Shirt said it better than I could.
 
KC claims : "Huh? What?" -- NYJ Busted

[font=Arial, Helvetica] Let me make this quick: Kansas City president Carl Peterson is not in New York. He's not negotiating to make a deal for Jets coach Herman Edwards. And he hasn't asked for permission to speak to Edwards.[/font]
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[font=Arial, Helvetica] All I know is that there's no end to these stories about Edwards going to Kansas City -- provided, of course, the Jets gain something in return. But they're dealing with the wrong people. [/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica] A story out of the Kansas City Star late Thursday night reported Edwards cleaned out his office during the day and was waiting to speak to Peterson later, a source close to the situation said. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica] Peterson IS talking, but it's to prospective candidates in other parts of the country. He already spoke with Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders and now has started to address others on the list -- and, no, Herman Edwards is not one of them. [/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica] All I know is that all these reports of the Chiefs pursuing Edwards emanate from New York, not Kansas City -- and it sure looks like the work of a club preparing to move on without its head coach.[/font]


http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9144117
 
KC is holding all of the cards right now. The Jests have so soiled their relationship with the Herminator that I don't see any way he comes back. Whether or not he is worth a 4th and 5th is moot. All KC needs to do if they want him is wait. NJJ has really f'd up this whole thing.

As much as I'd like to see Herm stay with the Jests for all of the obvious reasons, I have to wonder what would happen with Donnie Henderson. If he follows Herm, that would be a pretty good blow to their D. KC already has the O so it would be logical. Has anyone heard anything about that aspect of the whole thing? I haven't and you would think that would be pretty big.
 
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