Do we care about who the players are poll

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Which is why I said it's 'biggest part' of what they try to build into the roster instead of what they require to be on the roster. Few people know better than Belichick they can't all be Brady that the LTs do happen and exceptions are made for them but they are extremely rare. It's highly unlikely in the world according to Belichick any WR could merit LT type indulgence.

Although I'm sure at least a smidgen of BB is thankful he got to coach LT pre-Twitter and pre-Goodell.

Regards,
Chris

 

[TheRainMaker]

Aaron Hernandez was "a hard worker and good teammate" who had cleaned up his act until he wasn't at all and never had been.

AH was a turd when he was drafted. Was also babysat at Florida by Teebo and Pouncey and even that wasn’t enough.

I care that the owner is a spineless, easily manipulated fool who rides the coattails of the greatest QB and coach in NFL history.

I’m surprised there’s not one rebuttal on this.

 

[Deus Irae]

Care, and welcome, are probably poor word choices for the way that I, personally, look at it (and that is in no way the fault of the O.P.), but I do get the point of the question. So, with those limitations noted, I'll take option "a".

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

AH was a turd when he was drafted. Was also babysat at Florida by Teebo and Pouncey and even that wasn’t enough.

I’m surprised there’s not one rebuttal on this.

Maybe it is un-rebuttal-able

 

[mosslost]

I remember hoping Hernandez would get off on a technicality. That duel TE combo was sick (literally in Hernandez case)

 

[TheRainMaker]

I remember hoping Hernandez would get off on a technicality. That duel TE combo was sick (literally in Hernandez case)

Rolling Stone predicted he’d get off as well. They couldn’t prove AH pulled the trigger, but found him guilty anyway.

Regardless, he played his last down in the NFL.

 

[shmessy]

I remember hoping Hernandez would get off on a technicality..........

WHY????

 

[fxmallon]

Players who are questionable for smoking grass or have a pot possession charge are super fine with me. Players accused by women of sexual assault or "domestic" violence of any kind are not, because I know just how few women actually report such malfeasance, that those who do, I am fully committed to believing and backing.

 

[aluminum seats]

You're poll is incomplete.

Where's the option for:

" I value character highly and want good guys on my team; A good lockerroom with everyone selflessly focused on the job and not their egos = winning".???

It's worked (for the most part) for 20 years.

.....plus you are also missing the required RLKAG.

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Appreciate the response and I see a lot of positive feedback for it, but I feel like your proposed question is the kind of response that tons of people would choose which is also sort of horse&#%

Good guys and winning!! Sure, that’s great. But the point here is sometimes that’s not the choice. Antonio Brown makes the Pats better. The Pats narrowly lost a Super Bowl which if they had won Aaron Hernandez is a possible MVP. That’s the question here.

 

[Ivan]

I can deal with stupid sh.t, but not with amoral behavior. They can give a guy like Josh Gordon as many shots as they want, fine with me, but players who cause harm can take a f.cking hike.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I'm not growing a garden...

 

[Ivan]

Appreciate the response and I see a lot of positive feedback for it, but I feel like your proposed question is the kind of response that tons of people would choose which is also sort of horse&#%

Good guys and winning!! Sure, that’s great. But the point here is sometimes that’s not the choice. Antonio Brown makes the Pats better. The Pats narrowly lost a Super Bowl which if they had won Aaron Hernandez is a possible MVP. That’s the question here.

I think it’s a more interesting discussion than it is a poll, because it’s a gray area, not specific choices. There’s a big difference between a positive PED test and whipping your child, or raping women. I can deal with people who make mistakes, but not with truly bad people, so I’m ok with the first, and not ok at all with the second.

 

[aluminum seats]

I think it’s a more interesting discussion than it is a poll, because it’s a gray area, not specific choices. There’s a big difference between a positive PED test and whipping your child, or raping women. I can deal with people who make mistakes, but not with truly bad people, so I’m ok with the first, and not ok at all with the second.

Fair point, but a poll is clarifying too.

Actually, I wonder if it should have just been the first and last choices, have to choose one.

 

[primetime]

What about the option where it's completely out of my hands and thus the moral character of people I watch play a game on TV on Sundays doesn't affect me in any meaningful way? These guys (This is how I feel but I also respect people who won't root for bad people, and understand NFL owners or personnel guys refusing to employ bad people.)

 

[Doctor DDS]

Prefer good guys and if everyone had the character of a McCourty, Slater or Brady while also being exceptional players that would be ideal. But since that is not reality I am generally fine with them having players with a questionable past. Because of the kind of money they make and the type of people that some hang out with the chances of "money grab" allegations are heightened so I am fine waiting to see how things play out before jumping to any conclusions.

The things I like least about having questionable players or events is the non stop media focus on it. I understand why they do it as it sparks interest but it takes away from actual football talk and that is part of what makes the football season enjoyable to me.

 

[Calhoun44]

The coddling and look-the-other-way attitude starts in youth sports and continues until someone, (hopefully) finally says "It's not okay". If parents and school administrators at would stop valuing sports over education and ethical behavior this problem would greatly diminish. As long as the dumb jock stereotype is allowed to continue we will see stupid things happening when players go pro and get handed a boatload of money. It's not everyone, obviously, but it is allowed to happen way too much.

 

[Triumph]

Charles Manson had a hell of an arm.

 

[Soliel]

I chose the option about I wouldn’t want them anymore but only if convicted of any allegations such as Browns. I agree with the poster who brought up the drug thing. That wouldn’t be enough, I mean a bad conviction of capital offenses. I know Browns aren’t capital offenses but, if true, I don’t want the player. Anything short of truely evil things wouldn’t bother me.

 

[mosslost]

WHY????

because I love Patriot touch downs

 

[shmessy]

because I love Patriot touch downs

So you’ll root for a murderer to get off on a technicality as long as he can score touchdowns for the Pats? You’re not funny.

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