Darren McFadden to Vist Patriots

[SamBamsFan]

We should be figuring that about half of these visits are fakes, this is the time of year where the only information out there is mis-information.

McFAdden may be on our short list, maybe not.

Someone with a better memory than I could fill in the blanks, but I remember a story about when Red Auerback went to scout someone he really liked, Parrish maybe, he left in the first half of the game so no one would know he liked him.

It was Dave Cowens.

 

[tombonneau]

Not sure why folks are citing already having Maroney, Morris & Faulk in the fold as a reason NE doesn't need a RB. Last time I checked Faulk & Morris were on the wrong side of 30. One already missed half the season with an injury.

NE might not need another starting caliber RB in 2008, but it likely could in 2009, and definitely will in 2010.

Let's not forget, you are talking about the same regime that traded up for Dan Graham and two years later drafted another TE in the first.

 

[jays52]

Eeeexcellent. That's how you get Gholston to fall to us. Make Ratgina think we're enamored with McFadden. He's obsessed with the Patriots to the point where it gets him off of his game. He'll take McFadden just to prevent us from getting him if he thinks BB loves the kid. Dance you fat puppet, dance!

 

[apple strudel]

Not sure why folks are citing already having Maroney, Morris & Faulk in the fold as a reason NE doesn't need a RB. Last time I checked Faulk & Morris were on the wrong side of 30. One already missed half the season with an injury.

NE might not need another starting caliber RB in 2008, but it likely could in 2009, and definitely will in 2010.

Let's not forget, you are talking about the same regime that traded up for Dan Graham and two years later drafted another TE in the first.

Because good coaches like BB pick apart teams that have glaring weaknesses. The biggest weakness on this team is OLB and there are good OLB candidates this high in the draft. It's also a position that's worth the money spent on a number 7 pick. The Pats are a better team in the next few years with a high pick at OLB than at RB. Of course, IMHO.

Edit: I can use my native language to convey ideas clearly and succinctly. After 2 tries.

 

[sebman2112]

anyone the pats bring in to visit means they are at least -considering- drafting them, doesnt mean that they will, they could have a bad visit and the pats eliminate them from consideration.

To say the pats wouldnt even consider McFadden like alot of people have said is dumb, hes the best player in the draft and if he is sitting there at #7 there will be few players they would take over him.

It doesn't really mean they are considering drafting him.

Generally it just means they want to get a better read on him, and their draft board isn't set.

Also, I doubt the Patriots think McFadden's anything close to the best player in the draft. Heck, I bet they even have Stewart and Mendenhall as better fits for them.

 

[sebman2112]

Not sure why folks are citing already having Maroney, Morris & Faulk in the fold as a reason NE doesn't need a RB. Last time I checked Faulk & Morris were on the wrong side of 30. One already missed half the season with an injury.

NE might not need another starting caliber RB in 2008, but it likely could in 2009, and definitely will in 2010.

Let's not forget, you are talking about the same regime that traded up for Dan Graham and two years later drafted another TE in the first.

We're talking about the 7th overall pick, not late first rounders. And, Graham turned out to be a Blocking TE, with some receiver ability, so they still needed more of a receiving threat at TE (Watson). BB's also got a thing for TE's, and I almost expect he'll draft another one this year.

I do agree that NE could possibly look to add another RB, but in my opinion that back would either be a bruiser to compete with Morris, or a RB/WR to groom behind Faulk. Faulk and Morris still have at least one or two years left in them though, so it's not a pressing need.

Also, there is some depth at the RB position in this years class, which is another reason they wouldn't be interested in spending a top ten pick on a RB.

 

[ALP]

anyone the pats bring in to visit means they are at least -considering- drafting them, doesnt mean that they will, they could have a bad visit and the pats eliminate them from consideration.

To say the pats wouldnt even consider McFadden like alot of people have said is dumb, hes the best player in the draft and if he is sitting there at #7 there will be few players they would take over him.

no, if the pats bring in someone, it either means that he may be available when they choose.....and nothing more

 

[mavfan2390]

If he is, then somebody will have themselves a wonderful player. I sure hope it's not the Patriots.

Here's how I think of it: if you could add any current player in the NFL to the Patriots roster, would it be a running back? Would any RB even sniff your top 10? Wouldn't you rather add, say, the 3rd best outside pass rusher than the #1 RB? So that's how you pass on a terrific runner -- knowing that the incremental value to the Patriots team isn't as high as other positions.

Patchick, I'm not comparing McFadden to Peterson, but the number 1 player I'd like to add to the Patriots is Peterson...ahead of everyone else in the NFL.

 

[patchick]

Patchick, I'm not comparing McFadden to Peterson, but the number 1 player I'd like to add to the Patriots is Peterson...ahead of everyone else in the NFL.

Wow! You really think Peterson would improve the team more than, say, Ware?

 

[mavfan2390]

Wow! You really think Peterson would improve the team more than, say, Ware?

Peterson is the best young talent to come into the league in about a decade. Yup, I'd take him over Ware. I feel that Peterson improves the team so much that it outweighs help even at a position of need (CB, OLB, ILB).

 

[patchick]

Peterson is the best young talent to come into the league in about a decade. Yup, I'd take him over Ware. I feel that Peterson improves the team so much that it outweighs help even at a position of need (CB, OLB, ILB).

Good stuff! I think Peterson's tremendous, I just can't imagine anybody improving the best offense in football history as much as a pass-rushing beast of an OLB would improve the defense.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Not sure why folks are citing already having Maroney, Morris & Faulk in the fold as a reason NE doesn't need a RB. Last time I checked Faulk & Morris were on the wrong side of 30. One already missed half the season with an injury.

A freak chest injury that occurred when two linemen fell on top of him.

In the worst case scenario you have an RB who you can trade for value.

No, as I've pointed out several times before, it is very difficult to trade a rookie after he's been drafted because of the rookie salary cap within the regular salary cap.

 

[mavfan2390]

Good stuff! I think Peterson's tremendous, I just can't imagine anybody improving the best offense in football history as much as a pass-rushing beast of an OLB would improve the defense.

Hmmm, I just don't buy that pressure on the QB is an issue for us, we were second in the league last season with 47 sacks, meanwhile the team with the best points against in the league was the Colts, and they only had 28 sacks.

I think we need better cover LB's though.


Then again I'm contradicting myself as I'm praying we draft Gholston, so ignore me.

 

[Crazyeechrispats1]

Eeeexcellent. That's how you get Gholston to fall to us. Make Ratgina think we're enamored with McFadden. He's obsessed with the Patriots to the point where it gets him off of his game. He'll take McFadden just to prevent us from getting him if he thinks BB loves the kid. Dance you fat puppet, dance!

I was thinking the exact same thing but unfortunately I don't believe manjudas is that stupid as much as I hope he is

 

[The Great Fork]

Not sure why folks are citing already having Maroney, Morris & Faulk in the fold as a reason NE doesn't need a RB. Last time I checked Faulk & Morris were on the wrong side of 30. One already missed half the season with an injury.

NE might not need another starting caliber RB in 2008, but it likely could in 2009, and definitely will in 2010.

Let's not forget, you are talking about the same regime that traded up for Dan Graham and two years later drafted another TE in the first.

They definitely need a complement to Maroney for the future. I'm not sure that you draft a guy to be the future complement at number 7 this year.

That said, I do agree that the RB position needs to be upgraded in upcoming years.

 

[dryheat44]

I love Maroney and yes he does deserve to be full time.

That said, there is always room for talent, at any position.

I mean if he is there and nobody is trading - my goodness, how do you pass on that potential talent??

WHAT IF HE IS REALLY SPECIAL AS MANY ARE SAYING???

What if Matt Ryan is there at #7 and we can't trade down? Do we take him because he may someday reach his potential and be a Pro-Bowl quarterback?

I can't think of a better waste of a draft pick for the Patriots than a RB at #7....and that includes Ryan. There is ALWAYS a trade market for potential starting quarterbacks in the league.

 

[cstjohn17]

How do you split carries for Maroney and McFadden? Doesn't Maroney deserve to finally be the full-time back?

Nothing personal but 'deserve' is one my least favorite words when used in context to the NFL. My other least favorite term is 'fair contract' but I digress...

The good thing about RBs is that they can make an impact early in their career. The bad thing is the are pretty much a dime a dozen. If McFadden is there at 7, I see more value in trading out or taking the best player at another position but it wouldn't be the end of the world to have McFadden. Not my first choice but not the worst thing in the world.

The RB I think is going to be an excellent pro is Mendenhall (Illinois). He is big, reminds me of a young Corey Dillion. I don't have any expectation that the Patriots would draft him but personally I think he is going to be a very solid pro maybe the most productive of the entire draft class.

 

[tedylb]

We should be figuring that about half of these visits are fakes, this is the time of year where the only information out there is mis-information.

McFAdden may be on our short list, maybe not.

Someone with a better memory than I could fill in the blanks, but I remember a story about when Red Auerback went to scout someone he really liked, Parrish maybe, he left in the first half of the game so no one would know he liked him.

That's what I was thinking. Could it be a feint to deke the Jets into picking McFadden instead of Gholston? I imagine this caught Jerry Jones attention also. He wants his homeboy, and Dallas has our phone #.

 

[dryheat44]

That's what I was thinking. Could it be a feint to deke the Jets into picking McFadden instead of Gholston? I imagine this caught Jerry Jones attention also. He wants his homeboy, and Dallas has our phone #.

I think this is well overblown. Jerry Jones isn't stupid, and going to overdraft somebody because he played at his alma mater. Jones hasn't drafted a single player out of Arkansas since he's had the Cowboys.

 

[fgssand]

And what if we draft him and he is in a few years known as Darren McDadden

No choice is without risk........I really don't even want the guy as this is not a position of need for us.

BUT - if he really is that good, I mean a true game changer in every sense of the word, is it wise to pass??

I trust the ratings of our guru's down in the basement of Gillette to know exactly what is the best way to go.

None of it can be known until we are on the clock, we see what is there and the phone starts ringing (if it does).

Going to be a fun Saturday for sure.