Curran:Patriots ugly win vs. Jets doesn't ease concerns moving forward

[Wax Frog]

every player is starting to feel the storm in their bones.

 

[JMC00]

What I am surprised at was the story coming from Tom Curran

I wasn't surprised. Curran does sometimes straddle on the doom-and-gloom line but he masks it by being nonchalant about it.

 

[XLIX]

There's no such thing as an easy road game, just look what happened to Seattle.

There is especially no such thing as an easy road game in the division. Familiarity breeds contempt. I'm happy they got out of yesterday with a W, that's all that matters (well, that and player health, which took a little blow yesterday but nothing catastrophic).

 

[Sicilian]

There's no such thing as an easy road game, just look what happened to Seattle.

There is especially no such thing as an easy road game in the division. Familiarity breeds contempt. I'm happy they got out of yesterday with a W, that's all that matters (well, that and player health, which took a little blow yesterday but nothing catastrophic).

I'll repeat what I said after San Fran: I'm always pretty satisfied with a win on the road against NFL competition, regardless of their perceived strength.

And that should go double for division games.

 

[chasa]

They have to be the worst defense that is #3 in points allowed.

I'm dead serious.

of course you are. since there is only 1 team currently ranked #3 in points allowed, the patriots are in fact the worst.

they are also the best.

and the mean average.

 

[goheels22002]

Curran's at risk of being one of Shaughnessy's fan boys with that article. First of all, who cares what Seattle did in Tampa, FL? Different team, different conference and not relevant.

The biggest difference is that the Patriots closed out the Jets in style while they botched the end of the Seahawks game. The Patriots could have added a TD at the end to make it a 29-17 win, but made the right call to take a knee, get out with a win, and not add any fuel to the fire for the Jets to obsess about when they prepare for round 2 in Foxboro.

The Patriots found themselves in a dogfight last night against a coach who did a good job preparing his 3-7 team for the Patriots. The Jets offense was patient, efficient and made excellent use of several skill players for Fitzsixpicks to use. The defense was aggressive but found their limitations once Brady settled in.

It was ugly. But that's what division games look like. The Raiders-Broncos game was a grind, too. I don't understand what Curran expects from a road win.

 

[RobertWeathers]

of course you are. since there is only 1 team currently ranked #3 in points allowed, the patriots are in fact the worst.

they are also the best.

and the mean average.

About time someone gets my humor.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Was Curran active during the 2003 season? That was a season with some real up and downs and strange/close scores. The media would be conniptions if the current Patriots played that way.

Heck there are probably 20+ other teams that would like to win ugly like the Patriots. Always better to win ugly than lose beautifully.

 

[Deus Irae]

Heck there are probably 20+ other teams that would like to win ugly like the Patriots. Always better to win ugly than lose beautifully.

That's not the issue. It is understood that most teams would love to be 9-2 and have Tom Brady under center.


It's also understood that you grade, and analyze, teams differently depending on their general status.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

That's not the issue. It is understood that most teams would love to be 9-2 and have Tom Brady under center.


It's also understood that you grade, and analyze, teams differently depending on their general status.

I understand your point and somewhat agree, but under those rules shouldn't any team that doesn't repeat SBs be ripped? I'd prefer to keep a more positive spin on things and I'm sure BB is trying to improve or scheme appropriately each game (which is it's own unique microcosm).

Maybe I just have no energy for being too critical. Also, the comment about winning ugly was also part I of my comment about the 2003 season which I recall as having many nail-biter games. (that was the larger point)

 

[Deus Irae]

I understand your point and somewhat agree, but under those rules shouldn't any team that doesn't repeat SBs be ripped?

No, but you (general "you", not specific "you") would be a fool to be grading the 2016 Broncos from the same perspective as the 2016 Browns or 2016 Titans.

I'd prefer to keep a more positive spin on things and I'm sure BB is trying to improve or scheme appropriately each game (which is it's own unique microcosm).

Every team that's not tanking is trying to improve each game.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

No, but you (general "you", not specific "you") would be a fool to be grading the 2016 Broncos from the same perspective as the 2016 Browns or 2016 Titans.



Every team that's not tanking is trying to improve each game.

Nothing wrong with anything you said, just didn't address the connection with my original sentiment/thought.

Was Curran active during the 2003 season? That was a season with some real up and downs and strange/close scores. The media would be conniptions if the current Patriots played that way.

anyone can find something wrong (execution, scheme, play calling, individual efforts, ...) with a game that could have been lost or a close game. I could tell my wife (or myself for that matter) all the things that are wrong and/or flawed. Doesn't make it a good life philosophy to do so. The key is to balance it out and accept the bad with the good.

 

[Deus Irae]

Nothing wrong with anything you said, just didn't address the connection with my original sentiment/thought.

Anyone who actually remembers the 2003 and 2004 seasons knows the difference between a 14-13 game then and a 14-13 game now, so I didn't consider that connection to be of any real value to the discussion.

anyone can find something wrong (execution, scheme, play calling, individual efforts, ...) with a game that could have been lost or a close game. I could tell my wife (or myself for that matter) all the things that are wrong and/or flawed. Doesn't make it a good life philosophy to do so. The key is to balance it out and accept the bad with the good.

Ok, now you're just babbling.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

Ok, now you're just babbling.

Perhaps. But didn't think the point was so subtle it'd be missed. Thank you for letting me increase my post count.

Anyone who actually remembers the 2003 and 2004 seasons knows the difference between a 14-13 game then and a 14-13 game now, so I didn't consider that connection to be of any real value to the discussion.

You mean any real value to how you interpret the discussion rather than the intention of the source of the comments? No point in having further discussion.

 

[Deus Irae]

Perhaps. But didn't think the point was so subtle it'd be missed. Thank you for letting me increase my post count.

It wasn't missed. It's just an irrelevancy. This isn't "PatriotsRainbowsPuppiesandUnicorns.com".

You mean any real value to how you interpret the discussion rather than the intention of the source of the comments? No point in having further discussion.

No, I mean that there's a difference between a low scoring, close game when your team is a defensive powerhouse that breaks down opponents mentally as well as physically, and a low scoring, close game where your offense first team is struggling to put points on the board.

 

[jimnance]

Curran is losing it. As soon as that game ended, I knew it was the most satisfying win of the season. Listen to BB, i think he feels the same way-in fact, i think hes prouder of this team now than at any point this season Curran makes it sound like Fitz lit up the pats-Hello?!? they gave up 17 points! I LOVED that game. My favorite game this season, HANDS DOWN!! Matter-of-fact, Pats showed me yesterday that they are championship-caliber. If gronk gets back healthy and theres no major key injuries-nobodys stopping them from Ring V. As BB said-there are very times in a season(at least, for the Pats since 2001), where your team gets put in tough situations in the regular season like those that occur in the playoffs-trailing late,key guys hurt,on the road, needing crucial stops and plays on both O and D-this game was loaded with those and the pats showed the mental and physical toughness to overcome, focus and get it done. Big play after big play on O and especially, on D. Curran is becoming just another media clown. Ive never been more optimistic about the Pats this year than i am right now. Yesterday they reminded me of the '01-04 dynasty teams.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

No, I mean that there's a difference between a low scoring, close game when your team is a defensive powerhouse that breaks down opponents mentally as well as physically, and a low scoring, close game where your offense first team is struggling to put points on the board.

That sir is an excellent point and post. I might counter that by presenting that BB is playing to the rules which heavily favor an offensive team over a defensive team. Though, we've certainly seen teams with great defenses in the last few years (not named the Patriots) and it seems defense is making somewhat a resurgence of late (not sure if the rules are being less enforced or just better players or just a typical cycle in the nature of sports).

I'll agree with what I expect is your point. That being our defense doesn't scare other teams and we're easier to game-plan against because of it. Though, once a team is in the 20's it does get tighter.

I would contend, we (finally) made 2 timely turnovers. The defense is acceptable and perhaps better than the talent is showing. The next 5 weeks will be very telling in how the team is prepared to handle the post-season. The offense should get better with better health.

 

[jimnance]

Quantum- kinda weak hitting the disagree button w/o offering exactly what you disagree about.

 

[fnordcircle]

Jets, Dolphins and Broncos. All games that I hate seeing on our schedule

 

[Tony2046]

Last night immediately after the game I laughed that the Jets had scored 17 points.

Not 10 and not 24 but 17. Perfect. Oh and they got a couple of turnovers and a much needed stop at the end of the game. But Fitz looked like Joe Montana. But they bent but did not break. But they gave up a stupid TD.

hahahaha

Nothing yesterday ended any arguments either way.