Coaching

[lancerman]

Last year's team would kick the **** out of this team.

Let's be real, a big chunk of this controversy is simply that people are already down on Mayo so any misstep will get amplified. If Bill said this after a bad game, nobody would care. If the Chiefs lost and Reid said this, it's not a story.

Mayo coaches a 1-6 team as the successor to the greatest run ever and there's blood in the water so anything like this is just extra juice to the story and is being used as a bit of confirmation bias.

 

[archstanton543]

Let's be real, a big chunk of this controversy is simply that people are already down on Mayo so any misstep will get amplified. If Bill said this after a bad game, nobody would care. If the Chiefs lost and Reid said this, it's not a story.

Mayo coaches a 1-6 team as the successor to the greatest run ever and there's blood in the water so anything like this is just extra juice to the story and is being used as a bit of confirmation bias.

BB would never say anything like that in the media. Even if a reporter said "So, would you call this team 'soft'?". Bill would grunt and snort and just stare the reporter down.

 

[TommyD4207]

BB would never say anything like that in the media. Even if a reporter said "So, would you call this team 'soft'?". Bill would grunt and snort and just stare the reporter down.

This, and people hated this approach, except the players.

 

[SVN]

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[TommyD4207]

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Alex Barth suddenly took down that video and claimed he 'got the quote wrong', and he obviously, did not, it's right there in the video.

Another seat on The Committee warming up?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Mayo coaches a 1-6 team as the successor to the greatest run ever and there's blood in the water so anything like this is just extra juice to the story and is being used as a bit of confirmation bias.

Or Mayo is not really and Xs and Os guy, and neither is AVP or Covington, so playing vanilla offensive and defensive schemes is not working out well. We went from a highly technical coaching staff to a "feel good" coaching staff.

In the end, the nerd coaches will always win in football strategy. We do not have any nerd coaching anymore. You call that confirmation bias. Others call it common sense.

 

[Ring 6]

Oh, so I guess publishing the game stats is blame shifting. The Patriots lost in time of possession 33 minutes to 27 minutes, lost in # of first downs 23-16, lost in yards rushing 171 to 38, lost in yards per play 6.2 to 5.5, allowed 2 sacks to zero, - stop me if these stats don't make the Patriots look "soft," - lost in penalties and penalized yards, and lost 32 -16 to The Jacksonville Jaguars!

Tell me why, precisely, these professional athletes should not be called out for that performance on a neutral field. These are professional football players, not children.

Tell me why precisely these professional coaches should not be called out for this performance.
The b coaching was as bad as the playing, in fact worse because it’s been happening for weeks.

As to the other part you don’t understand calling them out in the locker room or on the practice field calls them out without trying to make a public case that it’s them not you while doing it to the media is throwing them under the bus to save your own ass.

 

[Ring 6]

Alex Barth suddenly took down that video and claimed he 'got the quote wrong', and he obviously, did not, it's right there in the video.

Another seat on The Committee warming up?

What was the quote?

 

[Ring 6]

Let's be real, a big chunk of this controversy is simply that people are already down on Mayo so any misstep will get amplified. If Bill said this after a bad game, nobody would care. If the Chiefs lost and Reid said this, it's not a story.

Mayo coaches a 1-6 team as the successor to the greatest run ever and there's blood in the water so anything like this is just extra juice to the story and is being used as a bit of confirmation bias.

Do you know of any other coach ever, who said that about his team to the media?

 

[Ring 6]

Mayo isn't supposed to be good at this yet.

Of course he is. He wasn’t hired to be bad. We aren’t getting spotted points while the football challenged coach learns.

 

[Ring 6]

Yet if he fails, which according to many here happens to 70% of 1st round QB’s then Wolf was an idiot for not trading back, and ruined the franchise. So he gets the blame if Maye fails, but not the credit if he succeeds. Totally reasonable, very logical. Almost as reasonable and logical as giving him 6 months to turn the franchise around.


Note:This really isn’t meant for you Peachhead, it’s just my vent.

Yes that’s right. He made the pick he is accountable for it. You seem to want to say he should get no blame no matter what.

 

[Ring 6]

yup. If we terribly for the rest of the season, message board posters will go nuts.

That will change Kraft's plan not at all.

Wait til the fans show up disguised as empty seats. Or with bags over their heads.
What do you think the stadium is going to look like the last 2 games the week before and after new years against the chargers and bills if we are 2-13?

 

[Tunescribe]

This is disturbing. Neither Covington nor Mayo have sufficient knowledge to fix the defense.

 

[TommyD4207]

This is disturbing. Neither Covington nor Mayo have sufficient knowledge to fix the defense.

This is just terrifying.
There truly is no bottom.

Edit: Also, people here told me Mayo ran that defense the last 4 years.

 

[Tunescribe]

This is just terrifying.
There truly is no bottom.

Edit: Also, people here told me Mayo ran that defense the last 4 years.

No! Mayo certainly NEVER ran the defense. He was part of it along with BB and SB, although his exact role was murky. The most I've ever heard is he "ran the meeting room." Is that after SB and BB digested scouting tape and handed him the game plan?

Once again, the concept of Mayo as CEO coach delegating everything to assistants COULD make SOME sense if he had the experience and strategic/tactical Xs and Os knowledge to ensure people did the right things. The sad truth is he apparently doesn't.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

No! Mayo certainly NEVER ran the defense. He was part of it along with BB and SB, although his exact role was murky. The most I've ever heard is he "ran the meeting room." Is that after SB and BB digested scouting tape and handed him the game plan?

Once again, the concept of Mayo as CEO coach delegating everything to assistants COULD make SOME sense if he had the experience and strategic/tactical Xs and Os knowledge to ensure people did the right things. The sad truth is he apparently doesn't.

It looks less and less like Mayo was involved in the Xs and Os. But, as you note, Mayo could be a CEO type coach like M Tomlin with Xs and Os guy under him. But it looks like AVP and Covington are not Xs and Os guys either.

We have no coaching experience and it shows. Mayo, AVP, and Covington have never been an OC or DC, and they have never previously had play calling duties. It is the blind leading the blind.

 

[turkeyneck]

No! Mayo certainly NEVER ran the defense. He was part of it along with BB and SB, although his exact role was murky. The most I've ever heard is he "ran the meeting room." Is that after SB and BB digested scouting tape and handed him the game plan?

Once again, the concept of Mayo as CEO coach delegating everything to assistants COULD make SOME sense if he had the experience and strategic/tactical Xs and Os knowledge to ensure people did the right things. The sad truth is he apparently doesn't.

And then SB called the game based on that gameplan. Mayo's coaching experience amounts to nothing more than just being there.

 

[Tunescribe]

It looks less and less like Mayo was involved in the Xs and Os. But, as you note, Mayo could be a CEO type coach like M Tomlin with Xs and Os guy under him. But it looks like AVP and Covington are not Xs and Os guys either.

We have no coaching experience and it shows. Mayo, AVP, and Covington have never been an OC or DC, and they have never previously had play calling duties. It is the blind leading the blind.

The CEO type is OK if he has the requisite knowledge to dig in and get his hands dirty when a hard fix is needed. BB often did that with defense and special teams. He also helped prep the offense knowing how opposing defenses worked. Mayo simply has no expertise.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The CEO type is OK if he has the requisite knowledge to dig in and get his hands dirty when a hard fix is needed. BB often did that with defense and special teams. He also helped prep the offense knowing how opposing defenses worked. Mayo simply has no expertise.

This is right.

But BB slowed at the end. The special teams play falling off and BB not fixing it is an example of BB starting to slip.

We need a guy with prior Xs and Os and play calling experience as a HC. Flores or B Johnson - I prefer B Johnson.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

There are nuggets of talent on this team beyond Drake Maye, but on the whole, you are correct.

You would be correct in calling them nuggets. Steaming nuggets. The O has only a few bright spots, Maye, Henry, Rhamondre, Strange even. Only to name a few. The D has far more imo. 3 along the line, some LB, and a DB or 2. But yea the works cut out for the front office.