Celtics 2024-2025 Discussion

[ViperGTS]

Well there it is. Not a big loss imo, he wasn't the same player last year.

 

[ViperGTS]

Also thats a pretty good return as well Simons is a 20ppg guy. Not too bad.

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Hats off to Holiday. Reliable clutch vet who came in to a not easy situation and transitioned easily to help the Celtics win a championship. Best of luck Jrue thank you

 

[1960Pats]

I don't know of one NBA player, past/present that I would take over Russell if I was starting a team. Probably in a party of 1 with that thought but thats how I feel.

You're not alone.

One of my favorite moments came as I was celebrating in the North End with C's fans coming from the parade last year, and two kids about 14 came up to me and asked me about Russell. They know now too.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t recall a team in any sport being as disliked as the Thunder, given none of their players have really done anything to deserve the hate. Maybe it’s angst about them being a dynastic team. But almost every NBA player, and team, even championship winning ones, tend to have a fairly long stage where they’re the fresh, cool kid before people get sick of them.

The Thunder seem to have skipped that stage altogether and are just not likeable for whatever reason. People don’t seem to really “respect their greatness” either. They’re perceived as an annoyance to everyone outside OKC and Doris Burke and co. You just don’t care enough to hate them but you don’t like them either.

I don't get it at all. They've done nothing to deserve the hate. My 22 y/o daughter hates them and when I press her for a legit reason she has nothing.

They are a very good, young team that owned to 2025 NBA season.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Hats off to Holiday. Reliable clutch vet who came in to a not easy situation and transitioned easily to help the Celtics win a championship. Best of luck Jrue thank you

Yep. They got a solid year out of him which turned into a title. Solid vet.

 

[bresna]

I don't get it at all. They've done nothing to deserve the hate. My 22 y/o daughter hates them and when I press her for a legit reason she has nothing.

They are a very good, young team that owned to 2025 NBA season.

I think it has a lot to do with the flopping Thunder team. SGA in particular is really terrible to watch when he's around the hoop. His technique of trapping a defenders arm under his arm and then acting as if the defender did it is not a great look for the NBA. The refs gave the Thunder every possible break in this series. Have you seen the videos of Pacers' players repeatedly being shoved out of bounds? OKC fouling players with no call when they called it on the other end? Phantom fouls on the Pacers? It was really bad.

 

[borg]

I think it has a lot to do with the flopping Thunder team. SGA in particular is really terrible to watch when he's around the hoop. His technique of trapping a defenders arm under his arm and then acting as if the defender did it is not a great look for the NBA. The refs gave the Thunder every possible break in this series. Have you seen the videos of Pacers' players repeatedly being shoved out of bounds? OKC fouling players with no call when they called it on the other end? Phantom fouls on the Pacers? It was really bad.

Agreed.
Their style is displeasing to the senses

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Well there it is. Not a big loss imo, he wasn't the same player last year.

How does this move make sense for Portland? A rebuilding team now has a bloated contract with an older player for 3 more years instead of 1 more year with a younger player. I don’t get it, unless they think they can flip him in another deal.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

 

[lancerman]

I don't get it at all. They've done nothing to deserve the hate. My 22 y/o daughter hates them and when I press her for a legit reason she has nothing.

They are a very good, young team that owned to 2025 NBA season.

It's the rule of cool. The Thunder are a dull team that everyone knows is good and have potential to be a dynasty type team and nobody is excited to go on the ride. There's no personalities that as a fan you can latch onto and feel strong emotions to. OKC isn't really a known sports city or much of a market that people have strong feelings about. So it's not the "old school traditional fanbase like the Celtics or Lakers" getting another one or the "hungry upstarts" like Cleveland finally getting something or even flashy Miami.

Then I also think the Thunder have been kinda have gotten the role of being disliked in general over the years because it's a reminder that a historic franchise in the Seattle Supersonics is gone. So they never really got a good shake to behin with over the last 15ish years.

But mostly it's just that they are kinda bland and people feel stuck with them.

 

[borg]

How does this move make sense for Portland? A rebuilding team now has a bloated contract with an older player for 3 more years instead of 1 more year with a younger player. I don’t get it, unless they think they can flip him in another deal.

It doesn't
Paying multi-year premium wages for a 35 year old stable pony in decline.

 

[Real fan 02]

OKC needs to Cowboy Up.

We knew Cs would move someone and I don't believe they are done.

 

[borisman]

Also thats a pretty good return as well Simons is a 20ppg guy. Not too bad.

He won't be a 20ppg guy here, especially when JT comes back. But he can shoot the 3 and is a high volume 3pt shooter (about 8.5 FGA/GM) at a decent .381, which is better than JT and JB. And Simons was a more focal point (leading scorer) in Portland (where 7 players avg double-figures) so he'll have more open looks here when JT is back. He's not a good defender though. But he just turned 26 so he is now reaching his prime. I think this is his contract year as well. I like this trade.

 

[borisman]

How does this move make sense for Portland? A rebuilding team now has a bloated contract with an older player for 3 more years instead of 1 more year with a younger player. I don’t get it, unless they think they can flip him in another deal.

They are most certainly going to flip him

 

[ViperGTS]

They are most certainly going to flip him

The chatter is he is saying in Portland to build culture. Doubt he is getting flipped this time around.

 

[captain stone]

Also thats a pretty good return as well Simons is a 20ppg guy. Not too bad.

He's not the most efficient 20ppg guy in the league however... So the incompetent Joey Mazz will love him.

 

[captain stone]

So now saving money has become more important here too than acquiring talent, just like the Ded Sux. Wonderful.

I'm being welcomed back to Loserville USA, same as I left the place 33 years ago and 8 full years before Brady arrived.

 

[ViperGTS]

So now saving money has become more important here too than acquiring talent, just like the Ded Sux. Wonderful.

Welcome back to Loserville USA, same as I left the place 33 years ago and 8 full years before Brady arrived.

They have to, you realize that right? The penalties are incredible if they don't get under the second apron at least. Don't blame the new ownership, blame the small market teams, Wyc and other ownership groups that couldn't put pen to paper fast enough on this CBA.

It killed the NBA imo. Someone said it best, NBA socialism. Never works.

 

[borisman]