Brady on tensions with Belichick that could only be resolved with a split.

[signbabybrady]

Wasn’t there a quote from an ESPN story where Bill thought he could win with any QB? Tom Brady is one of the very few QB's in NFL history who could win with anyone at receiver. Surely, Bill didn't actually think the next QB would be just as good.

Tom Brady threw for 4k yards and 24 TD's in 2019. He was considered done and those stats were seen as weak for him. Keep in mind, about 25 NFL teams would kill for those QB stats.

Brady at his worst was still better than 95% of active QB's.

That wasn't Bill who said it. It was an unnamed assistant and it was in a book by the infamous Ian O'Connor. And the quote if you choose to believe it was that they could win with another top 15 QB not any QB. I think the quote was twisted by Ian and has taken on its own legs since then.

 

[scott99]

I think it’s obvious that Tom and Bill have buried the hatchet as witnessed at Tom’s retirement celebration last summer. I think there will always be speculation, but bottom line, I think Tom wanted to go, and also there was no salary space to sign him anyway. By the time he left, the Pats had like 1 million in cap left.

 

[TommyD4207]

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[ahmed]

Hubris wasn't the important factor. No one wanted to move on from him. We just didn't want to give him an extension that lasted until age 45. And especially not several years early like Tom wanted. It hit its crescendo before 2019 when Tom didn't want to enter a lame duck season with the franchise tag as a possibility.

It's not that anything else didn't also contribute but at the end of the day if we had just granted him what would basically be a lifetime contract he would have taken it. Obviously not after 2019 but I think certainly anytime before his 2019 training camp negotiations that resulted in a no tag clause.

Obviously with hindsight this was a huge mistake. Even without hindsight I would say July of 2019 would have been the time to cave to this demand. But each off-season prior it was completely reasonable to not even entertain such a demand. People forget we had him under control until he was 42. You just don't give early extensions to guys who will be that old.

Edit: Damn it I tried to stay away from this thread but the same old tired tropes start coming out.

Of course we wanted to move on. Kraft went on a press tour telling anybody that would listen that Brady earned the right to do what he wanted. That was laying the ground work for his departure.

We did not even talk to Brady in that offseason until he told Kraft he was leaving. If that is not wanting to move on from him, I don't know what is.

I also wanted to stay out of this thread and I largely did but I can't believe there are still people in denial over this.

 

[signbabybrady]

Of course we wanted to move on. Kraft went on a press tour telling anybody that would listen that Brady earned the right to do what he wanted. That was laying the ground work for his departure.

We did not even talk to Brady in that offseason until he told Kraft he was leaving. If that is not wanting to move on from him, I don't know what is.

I also wanted to stay out of this thread and I largely did but I can't believe there are still people in denial over this.

I only speak truth you haters can't deal with it.

 

[sb1]

I'll always believe if Brady wasn't allowed to walk away the Pats absolutely win at least another ring.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

I would go as far as saying that if after 20 years of working together there have been no issues, there is a GIANT issue. You'd be asinine, lacking, or naive to not realize this happens...every day....all the time...

And you know it's the offseason when old things are necro'd. =)

 

[Lavictoire]

About Tampa he wrote "Game day weather was a 2, practice weather was a 3." Man, I would think hot humid weather would be brutal for football.

 

[RobertWeathers]

About Tampa he wrote "Game day weather was a 2, practice weather was a 3." Man, I would think hot humid weather would be brutal for football.

yea i'm good with that.

 

[TommyD4207]

I'll always believe if Brady wasn't allowed to walk away the Pats absolutely win at least another ring.

With what?

 

[NFL Mystique]

That wasn't Bill who said it. It was an unnamed assistant and it was in a book by the infamous Ian O'Connor. And the quote if you choose to believe it was that they could win with another top 15 QB not any QB. I think the quote was twisted by Ian and has taken on its own legs since then.

Yeh. The quote is absurd.

They found out very quickly that isn't the case. Once Brady left for TB.

I do believe Bill didn't say it. He's full of himself. But not an idiot.

 

[signbabybrady]

Game ball for taking a dump on the sidelines and a couple of tackles.....

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Yeh. The quote is absurd.

They found out very quickly that isn't the case. Once Brady left for TB.

I do believe Bill didn't say it. He's full of himself. But not an idiot.

They haven't had a top 15 QB since he left so not sure it got proved right or wrong.