BGC 2020 LB/PTP Thread

2020 Patriots Season:
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BaconGrundleCandy

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LB/PTP

Tier 1

Dylan Moses / 6'3/235 - Alabama -injury


Kenneth Murray 6'2/240 - Oklahoma


T.J. Brunson / S. Carolina / 6’1”, 240


Evan Weaver / California / 6’3”, 245


Tier 2
Jacob Phillips 6'4/230 - LSU / 6’4”, 229


Troy Dye 6'4/225 - Oregon


Erroll Thompson 6'1/250 - Miss St


Carter Coughlin 6'4/245 - Minnesota


K.J. Britt 6'/235 - Auburn


David Woodward 6'2/235 - Utah St


Malik Harrison 6'3/245 - OSU


Willie Gay Jr 6'2/235 - Miss St


Zaven Collins 6'4/250 - Tulsa


Rayshard Ashby 5'10/240 - Virginia Tech


Colin Schooler 6'/235 - Arizona


Shaq Quarterman 6'1/235 - Miami



Tier 3
Cale Garrett 6'3/230 - Missouri


Jake Hansen 6'1/230 - Illinois


Krys Barnes 6'1/235 - UCLA


Bryce Huff 6'3/245 Memphis


Cornel Jones 6'2/240 - Purdue


Nate Landman 6'3/235 - Colorado


Dorian Etheridge 6'3/230 Louisville


Mohamed Sanogo 6'2/225 - Ole Miss


Paddy Fisher 6'4/240 - Northwestern


Christian Allbright 6'2/230 - Ball St


Jahad Woods 6'/225 - Washington St


Francis Bernard 6'/235 - Utah


Jabril Cox 6'3/230 - North Dakota St



Tier 4
Justin Strnad 6'3/230 - Wake Forest


Tony Fields 6'1/230 - Arizona


Logan Wilson 6'2/250 - Wyoming


Jamar Watson 6'3/235 - Kentucky


Joe Bachie 6'2/240 Michigan St


Caleb Kelly 6'3/230 - Oklahoma


Tuf Borland 6'1/230 - OSU


De’Jon Harris 6'/245 Arkansas


Monty Rice 6'1/235 Georgia

Tier 5
Max Richardson 6'/230 - BC


Blake Gallagher 6'1/230 -Northwestern

Jordan Mack 6'2/230 Virginia


DQ Thomas 6'2/215 MTSU


Kyahva Tezino 6'/230 - San Diego St


Lawrence Garner 6'2/230 - Old Dominion


Marcel Spears Jr. 6'1/215 - Iowa St


Mohamed Barry 6'1/230 Nebraska


David Reese 6'1/250 - Florida


Koby Quansah 6'1/230 Duke


Marcel Spears Jr 6'1/215 - Iowa St


John Houston Jr 6'3/220 - USC


John Houston Jr 6'3/220 - USC


Anthony Ekpe 6'/230 Rice


Markus Bailey 6'1/240 - Purdue - injury

Jeffrey McCulloch 6'3/245 - Texas


Michael Pinckney 6'1/220 Miami


Thomas Barber 6'1/235 Minnesota


Clay Johnston 6'1/225 - Baylor


Zach McCloud 6'2/235 Miami


Perry Young 5'11/215 - Cincinnati


Dontavious Jackson 6'3/230 - FSU


Tae Crowder 6'3/235 - Georgia


Josh Uche 6'3/240 Michigan


Kash Daniel 6'1/240 Kentucky


Perry Young 5'11/215 - Cincinnati


Marcelino Ball 6'/225 - Indiana


Bryan London /6'2/230 - Texas St


Ethan Aguayo 6'2/230 San Jose St


Cole Christiansen 6'2/225 - Army


Cam Brown 6'5/225 PSU


Nico Sawtelle 6'2/220 USF


Cooper Edmiston 6'3/235/ Tulsa


Jacques Boudreaux 6'1/230 - UL-Lafayette


John Lako 6'2/230 - Akron


Fermin Silva 6'2/235 - Marshall


Antonio Jones-Davis 5'11/225 - Northern Illinoi


Akeem Davis-Gaither 6'2/210 - App St


Leo Lewis 6'2/240 Miss St


Khalil Brooks 5'11/205 - MTSU


Daniel Bituli 6'3/244 - Tennessee


Greg Reaves 6'2/250 - USF


Javahn Ferguson 6'1/225 New Mexico St

Sage Lewis 6'1/240 - FIU
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
I am a huge paddy fan. I would love to see him in our defense. He reads and reacts faster than anyone in college football. He just needs a red shirt year to get stronger and tougher.
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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Hey! Someone else who thinks Evan Weaver is criminally underrated. Nice. :cool:
Tackling machine. Like 10 games w 10 tackles in a row? Big time chirper. Looks like that big, tough country kid every time I see him & plays like. Really not many w his stat line. 160 tackles, 2 INT(pick 6), 4.5 sacks... Has been the guy to make a big play on that team over & over. Surprisingly smooth, fluid in space for his size (250-255lb) & his motor seems to clean up a lot. Honestly not sure where he plays next level but he's fun to watch.



 

Snooky97

In the Starting Line-Up
Wonder what your initial thoughts were on Jacob Phillips? He comes across as a prototypical Patriots LB with his Size and Length.

He seems to be going under the radar so far, looks to me he has good sideline speed, tackles and blitzes well. Doesn't make mental errors from the small amount of tape i've seen so far.
 

fightingirish595

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Tackling machine. Like 10 games w 10 tackles in a row? Big time chirper. Looks like that big, tough country kid every time I see him & plays like. Really not many w his stat line. 160 tackles, 2 INT(pick 6), 4.5 sacks... Has been the guy to make a big play on that team over & over. Surprisingly smooth, fluid in space for his size (250-255lb) & his motor seems to clean up a lot. Honestly not sure where he plays next level but he's fun to watch.




I Do not really watch a lot of Cal football. Some of that stuff you wrote almost sounds like you are writing about Luke Keuchly.

Any thoughts on Malik Harrisson?
 

State

In the Starting Line-Up
If Van Noy is gone (probable) and Jaime Collins also leaves, an athlete at the LBer position becomes a priority.

What is your opinion of the kid from Oklahoma?

Bacon has Kenneth Murray in the top tier.
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
I think bb keys van noy and Collins walk.

interestingly if we could trade our first round pick for both indy’s second round picks, then uche and queen would be perfect replacements.
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
The kid from Utah state is a tackling machine that pops on tape. The combine will determine where he is drafted.
 

sircole

Third String But Playing on Special Teams
2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: LB

Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson

Simmons sat out on-field drills, but he did more than enough during the testing portion of his workout to confirm that he is indeed the type of freakish athlete that teams will covet in the draft. He led all linebackers with a 4.39-second 40-yard dash. He also impressed with a 39-inch vertical and 11-foot broad jump. The 238-pounder is the first player since at least 2003 to record a 38-plus-inch vertical jump, broad jump of 11 feet or more and a sub-4.4 40-yard dash at the combine while weighing 230-plus pounds, per NFL Research.

Shaun Bradley, LB, Temple
Bradley, who already had "Temple Tough" on his resume, added "Temple Fast" to his scouting report with a 4.51 40 time. The future NFL starting inside linebacker tested well in other areas (10-1 broad jump) and impressed with his agility in drills. His footwork over pads and fluidity in drops were noticeable. Teams are looking for productive players with speed to operate over the middle -- Bradley fits that bill.

Willie Gay Jr., LB, Mississippi State
Gay needed to hit this combine out of the park, and he did. He didn't quite get to the 4.3s in his 40 (he predicted he would hit that mark earlier this week) but his speed was still impressive for a 243-pounder (4.46, 1.50 10-yard split). Gay jumped a mile high (39.5-inch vertical) and I watched him attack the broad jump with reckless abandon (11-4). The quick feet were obvious as he followed coaches' instructions to move side to side and back and forth during drills. Gay has likely had to answer questions about some off-field issues from his Mississippi State career during interviews with teams this week, but his athleticism did plenty of talking on Saturday night.

Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
Pegged as an inside 'backer, Harrison actually looked athletic enough to play SAM 'backer in some NFL schemes. There was no wasted movement in his drops or change-of-direction drills. A 4.66 40 at 247 pounds was good to see, as were his 36-inch vertical and 10-2 broad jump. Displaying this position versatility will definitely push him up boards.

Jacob Phillips, LB, LSU
Former LSU Tigers may make up a large share of the top 100 picks this year, thanks to guys like Phillips. He ran a bit faster than expected (4.66 40) and was explosive in the jumps (39-inch vertical, 10-6 broad). His junior-year tape exhibited good athleticism, which meant there was no surprise when he was able to quickly step over pads and fluidly change directions in the field workout. Phillips was a big part of a pretty strong performance by the inside linebacker group on Saturday.

Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming
Wilson cemented top-100 consideration with an excellent combine performance. Despite weighing a solid 241 pounds, he was fast (4.63 40, 1.54 10-yard split) on the runway. His jumps were adequate (32-inch vertical, 10-1 broad) but his safety-like movement (and hands) during on-field work made it evident he can handle coverage responsibilities on Sundays.

2020 NFL Scouting Combine winners/losers: Isaiah Simmons!
 

captain stone

Pro Bowl Player
I've done a couple of Fanspeak mocks recently in which Klavon Chaisson is available at 23...There are a couple of concerns with him that others don't have, so would he be worth the pick here? *

* Depends on free agency & the first 22 picks, naturally, but otherwise...
 

Ochmed Jones

Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
I've done a couple of Fanspeak mocks recently in which Klavon Chaisson is available at 23...There are a couple of concerns with him that others don't have, so would he be worth the pick here? *

* Depends on free agency & the first 22 picks, naturally, but otherwise...

this guy is a trap guy. His production does not justify a first round grade. We need to pass on him.
 

captain stone

Pro Bowl Player
Just heard during Moving the Chains on the Sirius XM NFL channel than Zach Baun tested positive for a diluted urine sample during the combine...Jim Miller believes that he's probably re-taken the test and passed, but I wonder if that's really true...I hope he was trying to mask weed and not steroids...
 

BaconGrundleCandy

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LB/PTP

Tier 1

Dylan Moses / 6'3/235 - Alabama -injury


Kenneth Murray 6'2/240 - Oklahoma


T.J. Brunson / S. Carolina / 6’1”, 240


Evan Weaver / California / 6’3”, 245


Tier 2
Jacob Phillips 6'4/230 - LSU / 6’4”, 229


Troy Dye 6'4/225 - Oregon


Erroll Thompson 6'1/250 - Miss St


Carter Coughlin 6'4/245 - Minnesota


K.J. Britt 6'/235 - Auburn


David Woodward 6'2/235 - Utah St


Malik Harrison 6'3/245 - OSU


Willie Gay Jr 6'2/235 - Miss St


Zaven Collins 6'4/250 - Tulsa


Rayshard Ashby 5'10/240 - Virginia Tech


Colin Schooler 6'/235 - Arizona


Shaq Quarterman 6'1/235 - Miami



Tier 3
Cale Garrett 6'3/230 - Missouri


Jake Hansen 6'1/230 - Illinois


Krys Barnes 6'1/235 - UCLA


Bryce Huff 6'3/245 Memphis


Cornel Jones 6'2/240 - Purdue


Nate Landman 6'3/235 - Colorado


Dorian Etheridge 6'3/230 Louisville


Mohamed Sanogo 6'2/225 - Ole Miss


Paddy Fisher 6'4/240 - Northwestern


Christian Allbright 6'2/230 - Ball St


Jahad Woods 6'/225 - Washington St


Francis Bernard 6'/235 - Utah


Jabril Cox 6'3/230 - North Dakota St



Tier 4
Justin Strnad 6'3/230 - Wake Forest


Tony Fields 6'1/230 - Arizona


Logan Wilson 6'2/250 - Wyoming


Jamar Watson 6'3/235 - Kentucky


Joe Bachie 6'2/240 Michigan St


Caleb Kelly 6'3/230 - Oklahoma


Tuf Borland 6'1/230 - OSU


De’Jon Harris 6'/245 Arkansas


Monty Rice 6'1/235 Georgia

Tier 5
Max Richardson 6'/230 - BC


Blake Gallagher 6'1/230 -Northwestern

Jordan Mack 6'2/230 Virginia


DQ Thomas 6'2/215 MTSU


Kyahva Tezino 6'/230 - San Diego St


Lawrence Garner 6'2/230 - Old Dominion


Marcel Spears Jr. 6'1/215 - Iowa St


Mohamed Barry 6'1/230 Nebraska


David Reese 6'1/250 - Florida


Koby Quansah 6'1/230 Duke


Marcel Spears Jr 6'1/215 - Iowa St


John Houston Jr 6'3/220 - USC


John Houston Jr 6'3/220 - USC


Anthony Ekpe 6'/230 Rice


Markus Bailey 6'1/240 - Purdue - injury

Jeffrey McCulloch 6'3/245 - Texas


Michael Pinckney 6'1/220 Miami


Thomas Barber 6'1/235 Minnesota


Clay Johnston 6'1/225 - Baylor


Zach McCloud 6'2/235 Miami


Perry Young 5'11/215 - Cincinnati


Dontavious Jackson 6'3/230 - FSU


Tae Crowder 6'3/235 - Georgia


Josh Uche 6'3/240 Michigan


Kash Daniel 6'1/240 Kentucky


Perry Young 5'11/215 - Cincinnati


Marcelino Ball 6'/225 - Indiana


Bryan London /6'2/230 - Texas St


Ethan Aguayo 6'2/230 San Jose St


Cole Christiansen 6'2/225 - Army


Cam Brown 6'5/225 PSU


Nico Sawtelle 6'2/220 USF


Cooper Edmiston 6'3/235/ Tulsa


Jacques Boudreaux 6'1/230 - UL-Lafayette


John Lako 6'2/230 - Akron


Fermin Silva 6'2/235 - Marshall


Antonio Jones-Davis 5'11/225 - Northern Illinoi


Akeem Davis-Gaither 6'2/210 - App St


Leo Lewis 6'2/240 Miss St


Khalil Brooks 5'11/205 - MTSU


Daniel Bituli 6'3/244 - Tennessee


Greg Reaves 6'2/250 - USF


Javahn Ferguson 6'1/225 New Mexico St

Sage Lewis 6'1/240 - FIU
Please lmk if you disagree. I don't mind constructive criticism at all.

Id say B-
 

captain stone

Pro Bowl Player
At least a B...Some players in the first 2 tiers might've been over-rated, but the only player I see who was Under-rated is Logan Wilson...Good job.
 

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