Belichick and Caserio have dinner with Tebow!

[DocE]

I have to admit, this has me slightly worried. I don't believe there is any chance they take Tebow at 22, but maybe with one of the 2nd rounders...which would be a horrible waste of a pick. On the other hand, I still think there is a good possibility that this interview was done as a favor to Urban Meyer to enhance Tebow's stock.

I know one thing, I'll feel a lot better about the Patriots being on the clock after someone else has selected Tebow.

 

[Marqui]

I know one thing, I'll feel a lot better about the Patriots being on the clock after someone else has selected Tebow.

Hopefully someone else blows a pick on him in the top 15 so we won't even have to worry about it.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I'm totally confused about this "developing Tebow into a Cutler then trading him" conversation. Cutler was Denver's starting QB for 2 1/2 years and made the Pro Bowl. If Tebow ended up in that situation, that means Brady's toast, right? So we would be trading away our starting QB just to come out ahead on draft picks? I think the best-case comps have to be Cassel, Schaub and Hasselbeck.

In general, though, a high pick on a QB would freak me out and leave me worried that BB & co. have concerns about Brady's ongoing health. And a high pick on a QB who desperately wants to stay a QB but whom you draft in hopes that he'll be an awesome TE freaks me out for other reasons.

I don't know why his health wouldn't be a concern, he's been accumulating injuries and his lack of mobility will likely mean his play will be increasingly predictable which could lead to even more injuries. I also wonder if Brady even wants to be in NE anymore given his family situation, we might see this by what he demands in his contract. Who knows, I do find this damn interesting though.

 

[Jangles]

I would be so disgusted.

Agreed

Unless Tebow is around for our last pick then I can't imagine why we would waste one on him

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Everybody raise your hand if you want the Pats to draft a quarterback in the top 2 rounds. Not Tebow specifically, just any quarterback.

I think this team has way too many holes to fill in other positions to waste a pick on a QB this year

Either the team sits pat with 2 QBs again in Brady and Hoyer for 2010 or they go FA for a vet QB as a 3rd

I do think that in 2011 if they feel Hoyer is not the future then a QB of the future could be selected early

 

[363839]

I think this is very intriguing. Someone here said that Tebow's weakness is his ability to read defenses and throwing accuracy. But the guy would be a beast if he could earn some respect from defenses by hitting some guys in route. What better person to teach this guy about reading Ds and train for accuracy than Tom Brady?!
I have to say that this would be an exciting development if it happens.

 

[Tunescribe]

So, it appears as though Tebow is one of the 30 in house visits. Two things bother me about this:
1. I don't want him
2. They had dinner one street over FROM MY APARTMENT! I forgot to defrost meat to cook for last night, so on my walk home from the gym I was debating between two places to grab a sandwich. Had I chosen the one place I didn't go I would have literally walked right by the restaurant they were at, and with the luck I've had lately probably would have run right into them. Ohh, what could have been!

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet Blog Archive Patriots dine Florida quarterback Tim Tebow at North End eatery last night

So if you had run into them, what would you have said? We Pats fans don't want you?

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

I think this is very intriguing. Someone here said that Tebow's weakness is his ability to read defenses and throwing accuracy. But the guy would be a beast if he could earn some respect from defenses by hitting some guys in route. What better person to teach this guy about reading Ds and train for accuracy than Tom Brady?!
I have to say that this would be an exciting development if it happens.

Ugh. It would be awful. I sort of doubt you can train for accuracy; either you have or you do not and if has not developed it by now he never will.

 

[Gator Mike]

Yeah, he would be the immediate go to guy as locker room Jesus Freak. He wears it on his sleeve. Most people on this board don't follow college football beyond that draft. If they did, they'd hate this guy like most college football fans (non Gator fans of course) because he is so obnoxious about his spirituality-choir boy act.

I'm posting this just to piss you off...

YouTube - Tim Tebow Proposes Before the Draft - Mike Rothman

 

[Snake Eyes]

Ugh. It would be awful. I sort of doubt you can train for accuracy; either you have or you do not and if has not developed it by now he never will.

Was Larry Bird a phenomenally accurate 3pt. shooter the first time he picked up a basketball?

Show me the guy who is the best pistol shooter in the world, were they always like that or did he need practice? For that matter, show me any activity needing a significant degree of accuracy and see if the best people at it were always that good.

While we're on the subject of Tebow's accuracy, look at his number of touchdowns v. interceptions.

 

[WesWelker83]

I think this team has way too many holes to fill in other positions to waste a pick on a QB this year

Either the team sits pat with 2 QBs again in Brady and Hoyer for 2010 or they go FA for a vet QB as a 3rd

I do think that in 2011 if they feel Hoyer is not the future then a QB of the future could be selected early

I agree with what you are saying. What a waste picking Tebow would be. The guy is not a TE/H-Back and hes a really overrated athlete. He is not quick or sudden enough to be a good route runner. He needs atleast 2-3 yrs before hes ready to play. He has some of the worst footwork I have ever seen for a QB. He also pushes the ball instead of throwing it and he isnt very accurate. I also have reservations about him because of that junk offense he played in at Florida.

Anyways, I heard tonight on FSNE that Tebow is going first rd. Believe it or not but Thomas Dimitroff told Tom Curran he thinks Tebow goes first rd. I think BB is setting up a huge smokscreen so we can trade down into the early 2nd and pick up a high 3rd too. LOAD UP ON PICKS BABY!

I could see Clev or Buffalo trading with us for 22.

 

[dhamz]

Everybody raise your hand if you want the Pats to draft a quarterback in the top 2 rounds. Not Tebow specifically, just any quarterback.

And there is the question that makes the idea of drafting Tebow crystal clear. I say no.


Tebow has no value in this draft if you aren't taking him as your QB of the future. He's not going to be a RB and hasn't proven to anyone he can catch passes. As a H-back/wildcat QB/FB/3rd string QB/special teams conversion project he should go in the 5th-UDFA range. The Pats might have to take him at 22 if they want him based on the media reports.


His best immediate value might be as a wildcat QB which will draw a standing ovation from the opposing coaching staff the minute the Pats line up in it. Every opposing team that the Pats play will love BB taking Brady off the field for Tebow.

His intangibles? Meaningless if he is not going to be a starting QB. NFL teams do not have 3rd string QBs who play 1/2 dozen plays in other spots as leaders, nevermind 23 year olds in that role. Veterans aren't going to want to hear from him. He'll be told to sit down and shut up and oh yeah, go get us some coffee rook.

If Brady isn't going to be extended and 2010 is his last year as the Patriots QB, you can justify a Tebow pick (or McCoy or any QB) if they view him as a franchise QB. Other than that it only makes sense as an ego pick by BB using a highly valuable pick in a deep draft on a project who is only going that high due to hype.

I don't see either of those happenning.

 

[Clonamery]

To take advantage of Tebow's "intangibles". Duh.

He's pretty good at taking a knee.

 

[patchick]

And there is the question that makes the idea of drafting Tebow crystal clear. I say no.

That's what it comes down to for me, too. How about this: there are increasing rumblings that Jimmy Clausen could slide. He'd be a heck of a steal at #22, right? And he's a much better NFL QB prospect, right? But not one peep from anybody here about drafting Clausen. Because a QB in the top 50 picks doesn't make sense.

 

[mgteich]

But 53 is OK?

That's what it comes down to for me, too. How about this: there are increasing rumblings that Jimmy Clausen could slide. He'd be a heck of a steal at #22, right? And he's a much better NFL QB prospect, right? But not one peep from anybody here about drafting Clausen. Because a QB in the top 50 picks doesn't make sense.

 

[Clonamery]

But 53 is OK?

No, there I said it.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

It probably is a smokescreen, but if Belichick drafts Tebow we have a new weapon added to an offensive arsenal that is in sore need of one. FORGET ABOUT TEBOW'S PASSING MECHANICS OR LACK THEREOF:

1. Tebow would be our newest (and probably most effective) RB and can play FB as well.

2.. Then there's the trick formations. Brady and Tebow on the same field--no way defenses will be able to effectively defend that. Welcome to the Patriot Wildcat, which would be the most effective in the league with Tebow.

3. I'm sure Brady wouldn't mind sitting down on short yardage situations. Everything yells QB sneak, then Tebow drops back and airs it out to Moss or just uses his speed to take off, get around the edge, than take on or out run any DB unlucky enough to try to get in his way.

As much as I hate Tebow, he could bring the spark and a winning-is-everything-mentality back to the New England Patriots. Ever since the SB42, the Pats have been as flat as a pancake.

Where do you people come up with this lunacy...Brady doesn't even like to sit in blowouts. No starting QB likes to sit or he'd never have become one. You don't take the ball out of the hands of a HOF QB and hand it to some gimmack...Experience running out of the pocket doesn't correlate to RB or FB for reasons obvious to anyone with half a brain.

PS now that they think they have a starter on the roster and the wildcat has run it's course, Pat White is on the roster bubble in Miami... They finally realized that any time he's on the field they are just messing with Henne's potential development...

 

[TruthSeeker]

I really wouldn't have a problem with Tebow with one of our second round picks. I would have a problem taking him 22nd, when we have more pressing needs that WEREN'T addressed in Free Agency (LB & D-Line, WR). Also, if they do draft Tebow, I really don't see them drafting him to be trade bait a few years from now. Brady is gonna be 33, and has been hammered with injuries the last few years, and I believe he's in his last year of his contract ? If they draft Tebow, he's our future starter. I think a few years under Brady and Belichick, Tebow would be just as good as Cassel, and we saw how well that went. Also, he'd be a great wildcat QB, and we can see how versatile he can be (maybe TE, RB, WR), he could be a good weapon for us.

That being said, if we are going to take an athelete to do several things, I much rather we take Jahvid Best out of Cali to be our future Kevin Faulk replacement. He can run, catch, and is a good retrun man. If he's there in the 2nd round, I'd love to see the Pats snatch him up.

All in all, the only concrete thing that can be said, is we have no clue what Belichick & Co will do. I wouldn't be surprised to see O-Linemen be drafted with the first 4 picks. We have no pass rush or receivers, but I wouldn't be surprised with anything Belichick does.

 

[dhamz]

I really don't get why people think a wildcat QB is good for the Pats. Taking a superstar QB out of the game is what every DC goes into a week hoping to accomplish. The idea that as an offense you voluntarily do that to your healthy superstar QB is downright insanity.

If when the Pats played the Saints this past year, Payton had yanked Drew Brees off the field for a dozen plays to put a gimmick guy back there the Pats would have been giddy.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I really don't get why people think a wildcat QB is good for the Pats. Taking a superstar QB out of the game is what every DC goes into a week hoping to accomplish. The idea that as an offense you voluntarily do that to your healthy superstar QB is downright insanity.

If when the Pats played the Saints this past year, Payton had yanked Drew Brees off the field for a dozen plays to put a gimmick guy back there the Pats would have been giddy.

It wouldn't have made sense to do with Brees because he was absolutely shredding the Pats defense, if what one is doing works great there's no reason to change, OTOH if what you're doing isn't working great it can help to mix things up and give the defense more things to account and prepare for. Ronnie Brown might not be as good as the starting QB but having him take snaps here and there could give them a relative advantage.