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Ashton Jeanty at #4

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I’d rather over draft a player who is one of the biggest playmakers in this draft rather than swing and miss on a LT with short arms or a WR who doesnt create separation. Not saying that Cambell is going to suck, or Tet isn’t going to resemble Mike Evans rather than Nkeal Harry, I’d prefer play it safe if Hunter or Carter aren’t there at 4 and they can’t find a trade back to take Graham.
 
Maybe because if the hype I expected more but watching Jeanty play after play I don’t see a Barkley, McCaffrey, Henry level back and with the depth if running backs I think you get more value this year grabbing one with a 3rd, and maybe 4th round pick.
 
Good running backs grow on trees if you have needs at almost every position and you pick one at #4 you're an idiot.

I wouldn't draft the outlier tackle with short arms either because i don't think statistical outliers should be picked with the 4th pick but i would rather draft him than Jeanty ask yourself what's more likely in 3 years looking back at the 2025 draft a running back picked in say rounds 2-5 is better than Jeanty or a tackle drafted in rounds 2-5 is better than Campbell.

Every year there's backs picked in the later rounds who are productive, they are way easier to find than good OL and DL play.
 
I know he had fumbling issues but V techs Running back could be there in the fourth.
 
Good running backs grow on trees if you have needs at almost every position and you pick one at #4 you're an idiot.

I wouldn't draft the outlier tackle with short arms either because i don't think statistical outliers should be picked with the 4th pick but i would rather draft him than Jeanty ask yourself what's more likely in 3 years looking back at the 2025 draft a running back picked in say rounds 2-5 is better than Jeanty or a tackle drafted in rounds 2-5 is better than Campbell.

Every year there's backs picked in the later rounds who are productive, they are way easier to find than good OL and DL play.
Good running backs grow on trees but Great game changing dual threat ones do not.
 
Do you prefer taking a guard with short arms at 4 (Campbell) or a twig DT (graham)?

Its a very weak draft at key positions
Jeanty is a game changer not just a rb

The outdated idea that elite rbs who are also receiving threats have low value is outdated.
Take the best player available
Period
So, sticking with the scenario of only these 3 picks - and taking your evaluation - I'd gladly take the twig DT. Mass doesn't necessarily mean more disruptive, and fat bois to plug the line are easier to find than interior rushers.

With that being said, I respect your stand, but I don't agree with it. Yes, RB is important, but having a 1400 total yeards rb comitee, to me feels better for the team than having 1 monster 2k yards RB (if he goes down, half your offense is caput, on a very phisical position)

Not to mention, like most here said: If we fused Derrick Henry, Barkley and Tomlison into one runner, and put this freak on our team last year, I don't think the needle moves at all, but for 1 victory.

The game nowadays - and trending - is just not favorable to workhorse RBs
 
So, sticking with the scenario of only these 3 picks - and taking your evaluation - I'd gladly take the twig DT. Mass doesn't necessarily mean more disruptive, and fat bois to plug the line are easier to find than interior rushers.

With that being said, I respect your stand, but I don't agree with it. Yes, RB is important, but having a 1400 total yeards rb comitee, to me feels better for the team than having 1 monster 2k yards RB (if he goes down, half your offense is caput, on a very phisical position)

Not to mention, like most here said: If we fused Derrick Henry, Barkley and Tomlison into one runner, and put this freak on our team last year, I don't think the needle moves at all, but for 1 victory.

The game nowadays - and trending - is just not favorable to workhorse RBs
Fair enough. No easy answer.
Pats do need elite playmakers but agree the trenches are important.
I would definitely take Graham over Campbell
Especially with Barmore’s return uncertain and Godcheaux on trade block
 
Good running backs grow on trees if you have needs at almost every position and you pick one at #4 you're an idiot.

I wouldn't draft the outlier tackle with short arms either because i don't think statistical outliers should be picked with the 4th pick but i would rather draft him than Jeanty ask yourself what's more likely in 3 years looking back at the 2025 draft a running back picked in say rounds 2-5 is better than Jeanty or a tackle drafted in rounds 2-5 is better than Campbell.

Every year there's backs picked in the later rounds who are productive, they are way easier to find than good OL and DL play.
If Campbells playing at guard then that answers your question by default.
 
Fair enough. No easy answer.
Pats do need elite playmakers but agree the trenches are important.
I would definitely take Graham over Campbell
Especially with Barmore’s return uncertain and Godcheaux on trade block
Graham concerns me more than Campbell. I think an inch in the arms is less concerning than a light heavyweight on the DL.
 
They desperately needed a LT in the 2023 Draft. Belichick took Christian Gonzalez. Many here were pissed if that he took a CB.

Was Belichick right or wrong?

While I understand that needs drive picks, when there’s a great player there for the taking then take them, and fix the need another way.

Jeanty isn’t at the top of my list at 4, but I won’t be pissed if they take him, it would give them a great run game for Maye to be able to rely on.

Personally I would rather take Hampton with their second pick, even if they have to trade up to get him.
RBs have a short shelf life
 
The kid might be LT, as @manxman2601 has pointed out. But this draft has guys that will be really good in R2 and R3. Day 1 starters. I think with the holes this team has, can't take him at #4.
 
I don’t think you pass on LT to pick Campbell or Graham.
If there were a stud OL or DL at 4 we would not be having this discussion

Do not settle for OK or good
Jeanty would help Maye tremendously
 
I'd throw up, it would be a terrible pick. We need line help or a skilled player
You don't think he's skilled?

I wish Orlando Pace was available at 4 it's just not there this year.
 
Good running backs grow on trees if you have needs at almost every position and you pick one at #4 you're an idiot.

I wouldn't draft the outlier tackle with short arms either because i don't think statistical outliers should be picked with the 4th pick but i would rather draft him than Jeanty ask yourself what's more likely in 3 years looking back at the 2025 draft a running back picked in say rounds 2-5 is better than Jeanty or a tackle drafted in rounds 2-5 is better than Campbell.

Every year there's backs picked in the later rounds who are productive, they are way easier to find than good OL and DL play.

The Eagles made a huge mistake signing Saquon Barkley. They will never live that down.
 
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