Article: Moss Viking stories leaking out...

[ScottieC]

Have I seriously still read posts defending this selfish loser?

I got a feeling your Grammer Check is disabled.

 

[Haley]

Don't worry man, she's got this.

 

[emoney_33]

More detail that doesn't reflect well on making excuses for Randy in this instance.
Burton and others said that Randy got up and LEFT the table, took a chair over by the wall, faced the wall, put on his earphones, tuned everyone out and ignored repeated requests by numerous Pats people (BB? Kraft?) to return to the table.

I believe Burton saw Randy get up, take another chair at another table that wasn't facing the podium. I believe that Burton saw what appeared to be Patriots employees talking to Moss. But the rest who knows. Burton couldn't see Moss' mouth, how can he say for sure he was "ignoring" anyone. Burton couldn't hear what was coming out of the headphones, how can he say for sure it wasn't off. etc... etc...

Hell for all we know someone at the Raytheon table said something offensive (I know it's unlikely just an example). I'm sure SOMETHING happened and Burton isn't just making stuff up and I'm sure that Burton perceived things the way he reported them. I also know that it's not impossible for Burton to misinterpret things from afar. And if it was as big a deal as he perceived it to be, it's not reflected in the way Kraft seemingly was happy to see Moss.

And I can all but guarantee it wasn't BB nor Kraft that would go up to Moss and ask him to rejoin a table. It would be an employee that was part of the group in charge of setting the event up, seating arrangements etc...

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Left the guests' table, walked away and took a chair facing the wall, put on earphones and refused to return despite multiple requests to do so.

I leave it to you to rationalize that behaviour to customers at a corporate function.

 

[emoney_33]

I think Chilly dealt with Moss's criticism of him the way he wishes he could deal with Favre. In the end, Chilly made "an example" out of nothing. Randy was barely there, the Vikes weren't great with or without him.

I bet Chilly was getting so oversensitive to criticism about his lack of dealing with Favre and decided to place that aggression elsewhere.

Who knows Moss may pose a threat to Chilly's job security. He definitely has more support in the locker room. Chilly has a talented team, and had pretty much everything he needed to know about how the Patriots would play them and he still couldn't do anything. He even gave away 3 points like a complete moron.

All I know is that I'd be PISSED if I'm a Vikings fan and had to deal with Chilly for much longer. It's a shame, because they do have some pretty damn good talent over there. Same with the Chargers, it's amazing how important coaching can be. Several times every Sunday I remember why it's great to have a guy like BB

 

[Kontradiction]

Anonymous internet poster thinks he is less of a selfish loser than wealthy football star, news at 11.

I mean, how dare anybody not like the catering and refuse to talk to the same media that ****s on him on a regular basis. The nerve!

Yeah... Moss definitely handled that situation in the best way possible. :bricks:

You kidding me, dude? I've been to plenty of mom and pop restaurants where I haven't liked the cooking. That doesn't mean that I started yelling about how it was utter crap and how I wouldn't have fed it to my dog to their faces.

 

[apple strudel]

Yeah... Moss definitely handled that situation in the best way possible. :bricks:

Name me one person who handles all situations the best way possible. You can't because that person does not exist. But anonymous judgment from the safety of the keyboard is always awesome. :bricks:

 

[Kontradiction]

Left the guests' table, walked away and took a chair facing the wall, put on earphones and refused to return despite multiple requests to do so.

I leave it to you to rationalize that behaviour to customers at a corporate function.

I assume you're addressing someone on my ignore list. With that in mind, your last sentence isn't possible because he would probably drink the juice out of Moss' jock strap after a game in Miami in September.

Now, as for the incident, I can't comment on the Raytheon banquet. I wasn't there. But I WAS at the Miami game, and I can tell you for certain that the incident that was said to have occurred during the pregame festivities did, indeed, happen.

 

[Kontradiction]

Name me one person who handles all situations the best way possible. You can't because that person does not exist. But anonymous judgment from the safety of the keyboard is always awesome. :bricks:

So because no one person handles every single situation in the best way possible, Moss is excused from acting like a jackass? Nice logic. Once again, not being happy with the catering is one thing. Berating the people that made it openly and to their faces when he simply could have approached the organization in regards to changing it is completely different. And your last sentence has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.

But please, do bring more porous logic like that to the table.

 

[Haley]

Yeah... Moss definitely handled that situation in the best way possible. :bricks:

You kidding me, dude? I've been to plenty of mom and pop restaurants where I haven't liked the cooking. That doesn't mean that I started yelling about how it was utter crap and how I wouldn't have fed it to my dog to their faces.

So you think the right thing to do? Was this an appropriate and measured response to the scenario? I mean we have people on other teams who are rapists, killers, dog killers, drunk drivers, but hey, lets pile on the guy that gets insulting to caterers and hurts their feelings.

Seriously?

 

[emoney_33]

Left the guests' table, walked away and took a chair facing the wall, put on earphones and refused to return despite multiple requests to do so.

I leave it to you to rationalize that behaviour to customers at a corporate function.

I'm not rationalizing anything. None of us were there, all we know is a 3rd party's point of view, and it's very easy for a 3rd party's perception to be completely wrong on certain points. Anyway, I didn't mean to debate that incident this much. All parties involved have clearly moved on from it

Kontra drinks the juice out of Deus' jockstrap, but he's another one of those who don't stop to think and just spews venom as he believes he's always right.

 

[emoney_33]

So you think the right thing to do? Was this an appropriate and measured response to the scenario? I mean we have people on other teams who are rapists, killers, dog killers, drunk drivers, but hey, lets pile on the guy that gets insulting to caterers and hurts their feelings.

Seriously?

If the story were true, it would be a jackass thing from Moss. However I don't believe there's anyway this story is true as it has been reported. At best I can see Moss JOKING around with it, but not being serious. He's not a snotty too-good-for-your-food kind of guy, despite the hatred that the media has created.

Kind of reminds of the hatred BB gets from 31 other fanbases, luckily we know the truth. Yet some people still believe the media doesn't fabricate perceptions of people.

 

[Kontradiction]

So you think the right thing to do? Was this an appropriate and measured response to the scenario? I mean we have people on other teams who are rapists, killers, dog killers, drunk drivers, but hey, lets pile on the guy that gets insulting to caterers and hurts their feelings.

Seriously?

1. What do Ben Roethlisberger, Michael Vick, or Vincent Jackson have to do with this situation? This is about Randy Moss and floating their names as reasons for why we should not criticize Moss is not particularly sound logic on your part.

2. I've openly criticized all of those guys. Now I'm criticizing Moss because he could have handled this situation in a MUCH better manner.

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

I got a feeling your Grammer Check is disabled.

FYI:

Grammar smack talk check list
1. Make sure your own grammar is correct
2. Make sure your own spelling is correct
3. Make sure the grammar you are attempting to correct is actually incorrect
4. ????
5. Profit

 

[apple strudel]

So because no one person handles every single situation in the best way possible, Moss is excused from acting like a jackass?

Let's just say that making judgments about guys when you don't have all the facts is not cool.

Nice logic.

I'd say that's your inferred logic, really.

Once again, not being happy with the catering is one thing. Berating the people that made it openly and to their faces when he simply could have approached the organization in regards to changing it is completely different.

I wasn't there. Were you? Was it really a big deal? Was he really that much of a boor? Was the food really that ****ty? Was the story a conveniently timed PR stunt to save face? I don't know the answers to these questions (save the last one) and neither do you.

And your last sentence has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Sure it do.

But please, do bring more porous logic like that to the table.

When people don't get the point they b1tch a lot about the other guy's logic. Patsfans.com strikes again!

 

[Haley]

If the story were true, it would be a jackass thing from Moss. However I don't believe there's anyway this story is true as it has been reported.

I agree. Until someone it willing to identify themselves as the nameless witness, this is a made up story.

But even if we were to fly with this, it doesn't measure up against the horrifying actions of other players that are still playing.

The point is, Chilly's actions, no matter what went on are WAY out of line.

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

So you think the right thing to do? Was this an appropriate and measured response to the scenario? I mean we have people on other teams who are rapists, killers, dog killers, drunk drivers, but hey, lets pile on the guy that gets insulting to caterers and hurts their feelings.

Seriously?

I read the story, but I do not recall, maybe you can quote it for me.
Does it state anywhere that Moss was waived by the Vikings BECAUSE of the food incident?

 

[Kontradiction]

Let's just say that making judgments about guys when you don't have all the facts is not cool.

:ugh:

The story has been confirmed: http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...ng-stories-leaking-out-page3.html#post2319729

I'd say that's your inferred logic, really.

No, it's really not. You attempted to excuse Moss by asking me what person ever handles every situation in their lives in the best way possible. I responded by criticizing your logic, which was the right thing to do. What I should have done was criticize your logic AND point out just how ridiculous and absurd that question, particularly when you're raising it to try to defend a guy who could have handled the situation in question differently, really was.

I wasn't there. Were you? Was it really a big deal? Was he really that much of a boor? Was the food really that ****ty? Was the story a conveniently timed PR stunt to save face? I don't know the answers to these questions (save the last one) and neither do you.

By this logic, we shouldn't have opinions on anything and should just be drones and/or robots. No thanks. And, once again, the story has been confirmed by multiple sources. That's good enough for me.

Sure it do.

No, it really doesn't.

When people don't get the point they b1tch a lot about the other guy's logic. Patsfans.com strikes again!

Actually, I understand the point just fine. Let's have a look at what's gone down and see if you understand it...

1. Vikings players have reported what Moss said word for word. If Chilly had really lost the locker room over such a perceived unpopular move by cutting Moss for absolutely no reason, why would the Vikings player in question do that? Afterward, the story was confirmed again by the Vikings themselves.

2. You made a post which all but stated that there was nothing wrong with the way Moss handled the situation.

3. I responded to you and other posters by listing ways in which Moss could have handled the situation better.

4. You attempted a ridiculous defense of Moss only after admitting yourself that he could have handled the situation better.

5. I responded by mocking your terrible defense and telling you just why it was terrible.

6. You're now attempting a different (albeit less ridiculous) defense. Instead, this time, it's "WERE U THAR".

It's simple. Your logic is shoddy here. If this is what you're going to bring to the table, you might want to stay in the Political Cesspool.

 

[Haley]

I read the story, but I do not recall, maybe you can quote it for me.
Does it state anywhere that Moss was waived by the Vikings BECAUSE of the food incident?

No, however there has been no other incident reported since Chilly's post game press conference where Moss was cleared of all issues.

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Sorry I'm incorrect. It is reported to be the direct cause.

The source noted that Moss' behavior both in the locker room and after Sunday's loss at New England was a key factor in Childress' decision.

Moss' actions during a Friday locker-room buffet upset even quarterback Brett Favre, the St. Paul Pioneer-Press reported Tuesday.

NFL.com news: Misbehavior led to Moss' release; WR no longer listed on roster

 

[Kontradiction]

I agree. Until someone it willing to identify themselves as the nameless witness, this is a made up story.

There are anonymous sources used all of the time. To draw a comparison that apple strudel will be familiar with, one of the most infamous scandals in this country's history, Watergate, was broken by an anonymous source. What if people had just dismissed that as being a made up story?

Once again, a Vikings player stated what Moss said word for word, and then the Vikings organization came out and confirmed the story. How much more do you want? What lengths are you going to go to in order to defend this guy? Where there's smoke, there's fire... and there's a sh!tload of smoke right now.

But even if we were to fly with this, it doesn't measure up against the horrifying actions of other players that are still playing.

Again, this is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand and doesn't excuse Moss' actions here in any way.

The point is, Chilly's actions, no matter what went on are WAY out of line.

With this situation on top of Moss' press conference yesterday on top of him breaking off his route in our game on top of the complete lack of effort to jump for the ball in Green Bay, I'm not sure how you can say that. On top of that, Moss criticized the coaching staff in Minnesota while praising the opponent that had JUST beaten them. But yeah, it's Childress that's out of line. Not Moss. Never Randy.

:bricks: