Adjusted Expectations?

[Triumph]

Yes, Rice, Brown, Worthy, and Kelce are a fine group of receivers.

Juju and Thornton are an OK couple of deep backups.

Noah Gray comes in and makes a play here or there. KC hasn't begun to throw to Hunt or Pacheco yet, but that coukd change.

The Chiefs can overload any secondary.

They are the Brady Pats until some team beats them in the post season. Beating KC in the regular season sort of shoots yourself in the foot. Those winning game plans are now on film for KC to break down.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I thought 9 wins would be good before the season with the way Drakes playing im thinking 11-12 wins is probable.

 

[maust]

I believe that the beginning odds were 8.5 (or was it 7.5), so you were over from the beginning. My recall is that I was just slightly on the over, hoping that we might have a chance for 10 wins and a playoff position.

It opened at 7.5, I put half my betting kitty for the season on it. Went back to up it the next day and had to take 8.5. It was a good bet but I'm never going that hard on a wins total again, I handcuffed myself for the season. Hopefully they hit the 7.5 this week or next and I'll be reloaded and back up for the stretch run

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

At this point I figure we're playing with house money so I'm just going to enjoy the ride while it lasts.

This Turkey is going to stick his Neck out and say……….DITTO

 

[Lambeau12]

This is a good point. Next year we draw the NFC north and the AFC west, Buffalo twice and a 1st or 2nd place schedule guarantees we face at least one additional playoff team. That is a gauntlet.

We play the Pats next year?

 

[Patsfan1645]

Yes, Rice, Brown, Worthy, and Kelce are a fine group of receivers.

Juju and Thornton are an OK couple of deep backups.

Notice I only highlighted the JAGS which I dont think supports the statement of "loaded at WR". They have a decent group overall...but I dont consider them loaded.

 

[Wozzy]

Stay healthy and develop the youth, my expectations were high back in June after free agency and the draft concluded.

A talented team always has a chance, a team without talent doesn’t. Having young talent that needs to be developed is better than not having it at all.

Don’t listen to PFF, they’ll tell you talented players aren’t, and not talented players are.

 

[neuronet]

If you are wondering what people here said in April: Vegas has Pats at 7.5 wins. (Updated: 8.5)

I picked the over based on sos. Good on anyone that took that bet! I am thinking 12 wins.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

If you are wondering what people here said in April: Vegas has Pats at 7.5 wins. (Updated: 8.5)

I picked the over based on sos. Good on anyone that took that bet! I am thinking 12 wins.

I don’t bet.
However I believe I said “10 wins minimum” in several threads, but I’m too lazy to find them.

 

[neuronet]

I don’t bet.
However I believe I said “10 wins minimum” in several threads, but I’m too lazy to find them.

Yeah that’s why I tracked down that thread for the receipts —it’s like nine pages long, and most of the usual suspect posted in there.

 

[NFL Mystique]

The only way the season is not a success is if they go 2-6 or 3-5 and don't make/barely make the postseason (and quickly lose the first playoff game). It would look like a repeat of 2021 and there would be alot of doubters.

Personally, I have them losing to Buffalo, TB, and Baltimore. Finishing 12-5. The Buffalo and Baltimore games will be close losses.

Next year is a very tough schedule. The team could be better on paper but lose more games. At some point, the team needs to transition from "still rebuilding" to "we have a great QB on a rookie deal. Let's go for it". If they are not a top four SB favorite by 2028, something has gone seriously wrong.

 

[Pape]

@neuronet I was thinking about my post in regards to this thread ... so thank you for the "interesting" ... saves the effort of trying to find it, lol

Post in thread 'Vegas has Pats at 7.5 wins. (Updated: 8.5)'

Apr 29, 2025

right now, before camp etc, i am slightly more optimistic than i was last year... got us at the 8-9 mark... if we realistically think we will do better, a few things will have to break our way... Barmore comes back, Diggs arrives healthy, Campbell is plug and play on the line... and toss in a few assorted others to add to that mix...

Pre-Camp Prediction:

Overall 8-9

Division - 2-4
Buffalo Bills 0-2
Miami Dolphins 1-1
New York Jets 1-1

Rest of the field
Atlanta Falcons W
Baltimore Ravens L
Carolina Panthers W
Cincinnati Bengals L
Cleveland Browns W
New York Giants W
Las Vegas Raiders...

• Pape

Preseason Prediction
Overall predicted 8-9
thru first 9 games:
Predicted: 6-3
Reality: 7-2
Not too shabby ...

The whole enchilada, moving forward
Las Vegas - L got it right, unfortunately
@Miami - W got this one wrong, thankfully
Pittsburgh - L got it right, unfortunately
Carolina - W got this one right, thankfully
@Buffalo - W got this one wrong, thankfully
@ New Orleans - W got this one right, thankfully
@Tennessee - W got this one right, thankfully
Cleveland - W got this one right, thankfully
Atlanta - W got this one right, thankfully
-----------------------------------------
@Tampa Bay - Predicted L, think we get a W
Jersey B - Predicted W, think we get a W
@Cincinnati - Predicted a L, think we get a W
Jersey A - Predicted W, think we get a W
Buffalo - Predicted L, nothing has changed that opinion
Baltimore - Predicted L, nothing has changed that opinion
@ Jersey B - Predicted a L, think we get a W
Miami - Predicted a L, think we get a W

Pats end up at 13-4 ... a huge improvement from the 8-9 preseason prediction

 

[mgteich]

Notice I only highlighted the JAGS which I dont think supports the statement of "loaded at WR". They have a decent group overall...but I dont consider them loaded.

fair enough

 

[mgteich]

The only way the season is not a success is if they go 2-6 or 3-5 and don't make/barely make the postseason (and quickly lose the first playoff game). It would look like a repeat of 2021 and there would be alot of doubters.

Personally, I have them losing to Buffalo, TB, and Baltimore. Finishing 12-5. The Buffalo and Baltimore games will be close losses.

Next year is a very tough schedule. The team could be better on paper but lose more games. At some point, the team needs to transition from "still rebuilding" to "we have a great QB on a rookie deal. Let's go for it". If they are not a top four SB favorite by 2028, something has gone seriously wrong.

How far we have come.

I still think that getting into the playoffs will be a significant success for the 2025 season.

That being said, we all hope that we win a playoff game or two or three.

 

[NFL Mystique]

How far we have come.

I still think that getting into the playoffs will be a significant success for the 2025 season.

It will be. But the real work then begins. The hardest part of a GM's job is turning a good team into a SB contending one.

 

[mgteich]

It will be. But the real work then begins. The hardest part of a GM's job is turning a good team into a SB contending one.

Agrred.

Vrabel has completed Step One. We are likely to be a contender for the playoffs for the rest of Maye's rookie contract (2025-2028).

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Stay healthy and develop the youth, my expectations were high back in June after free agency and the draft concluded.

A talented team always has a chance, a team without talent doesn’t. Having young talent that needs to be developed is better than not having it at all.

Don’t listen to PFF, they’ll tell you talented players aren’t, and not talented players are.

PFF certainly has its flaws, but if anyone ever uses it to gauge "talent" then that's user error right off the bat. Talent is innate. PFF aims to measure actual, tangible production on the field. They are two different things. PFF doesn't tall you that talented players are not talented or that not talented players are talented. They make absolutely no attempt at all of telling you who is or isn't talented. They just aim to tell you how he played when he was on the field in the past. If anyone uses it for anything else, like projecting development, then that's on them for using a totally irrelevant data point for what they're trying to argue.

 

[maust]

...it’s like nine pages long, and most of the usual suspect posted in there.

Some of the more 'unusual' suspects too

 

[maust]

...but I’m too lazy to find them.

Kinda noticed that trend

 

[scott99]

I predicted 8 wins prior to the season. Obviously I have to adjust that. Honestly, anything above 10 wins and making the playoffs would make me very happy. This is year one of Vrabel & staff. I don’t have any expectations once/if they make the playoffs, just want that playoff experience for Drake and the young guys.