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I highly doubt that. I remember the Patriots devoting two people just to maul Tony Gonzalez at the line near the end zone, and basically any of the "big WR" type TE's would likely be double covered in some respect fairly often. Gronk was special because he could also block, unlike many of those guys though.
I disagree. Gronk didn't need "another physical TE" to do what he does. He was essentially a slightly undersized offensive lineman with speed and great hands. He was/is the ultimate mismatch.
I haven't checked but I wonder if he was the only TE to ever command double coverage.
He's a very rare talent and his true contributions to the game and team will never be fully acknowledged.
When we talk about beasts Gronk is the King.
I don't see either comparison as valid, really. Gronk and Hernandez will probably never be matched as a pair, and we may never again find a TE like Gronk who can be equally effective on running and passing plays.
As for Graham and Watson, those 2 were known mostly for their blocking skills (despite Watson's speed), and my understanding of Henry and Smith is they're both better at receiving than blocking.
I think our new TE signings are good enough at blocking, but I hope no one expects they'll be as good as an extra OL out there because that won't be happening.
I'm reminded of that old document where Belichick describes his ideal offensive players for the system and he specifically says tight ends only need to be "helpful" as blockers, not dominant, so the new guys fit that description perfectly. That document also curiously says a TE shouldn't be cast aside just because of a lack of blocking skills...I wonder if that philosophy led to LaCosse.
That sounds about right, although I think both Henry and Smith putting up those numbers in the same season would require a lot of things going our way in terms of injury and QB competence.Ok... So I guess I should have elaborated that Cam is the QB and taken into account all the implications for the number and quality of the passing attempts that will target the TE position. Watson/Graham average production in the passing game is what I expect from the new talent at the position, all four of them. About 60 rec. and 6-8 TDs is Graham/Watson production in the passing game and I expect these guys aren't stiffs in the running game. I expect they can chip a DE, hold up a LB and block a DB with skill proportionate with their contract.
Gronk is basically a supet athletic 3rd tackle with a WR's hands. He's the prototype for the position. A decimated back is the only reason he wasn't deemed the GOAT TE years ago.It’s been a while but I got a chance to rewatch this past super bowl between the chiefs and bucs and I gotta say Gronk was a game changer when it came down to blocking, he was man handling the KC defensive ends. The ply action passes were effective when Gronk stayed in and blocked. Also he was great with blocking when it came down to running the ball.
Our run game would be so much more effective if we can get the same type of production at blocking from at least one of our tight ends.
I am excited for this upcoming season, the run game should be better and our offense should be much better than last year with the exception of our QB...
Yes, gronk is the king, and perhaps the very best TE of all time.I haven't checked but I wonder if he was the only TE to ever command double coverage.
I don't know that, even in his prime, he was the best blocker in the league, but what made GRONK special is that he was a top 5 blocking TE and a top 5 receiving TE at the same time.While we're not going to get Gronk level blocking from either of our new TEs, both of them are reportedly competent blockers. Gronk, however, is a monster, huge, athletic, and smarter than he looks. No one blocks like Gronk.
As long as we don't expect Gronk out of the new guys we should be happy with them
Indeed, that gave him the unique ability to sell a block and then release, leaving a defender hanging in thin air, put a DE on him and he'll burn him, put a LB or safety on him and hell overpower them. The man is probably the most skilled TEs in human history.I don't know that, even in his prime, he was the best blocker in the league, but what made GRONK special is that he was a top 5 blocking TE and a top 5 receiving TE at the same time.
Yes, gronk is the king, and perhaps the very best TE of all time.
That being said, I'm sure that lots of TE's have commanded double coverage, at least in many situations. Folks can chime in on current TE's Surely, Kelce has often commanded double coverage.
One of my earliest Pats memories was watching 3 dbs struggling to take down Coates barreling towards the EZ. I was too young to really know what was going on, but he was obviously a handful.Gronk is the king, but not the OG for his playing style.
The original 87 was pretty damn good and it would be nice to get another 87 to continue what could be a legacy:
Gronk is special on so many levels, but our current compliment of Henry, Smith are pretty solid. Then behind them are Keene and Assiasi whose abilities are not really known.. not sure if anyone can fulfill the blocking role. Currently our O is much better, on paper, with the two new TE's... I read where Tom House has been working with Cam, so there is some hope then there are OTA's. TC and preseason.