43 yard XP? Competition committee is discussing it.

[ctpatsfan77]

Can't speak for Deus but, what is so wrong with the game now that requires us to change it? Don't fix what's not broken. Extra points aren't automatic. This is one of the few spots where I completely disagree with BB.

Interesting numbers, though I'd be more interested to see the breakdowns on extra points alone. Wonder if the numbers would be anywhere near as drastic.

Well, here's what I can tell you (first number = 1970–1973, second number = 2010–2013):

Kickers with 10+ XP attempts: 43, 46
Kickers with 100+ XP attempts: 16, 27
Kickers with 100% XP conversion: 9/43, 27/46
Kickers with 100% XP conversion and 100+ attempts: 2/16, 16/27
Kickers with 3+ XP misses: 11/43, 0/46

Why don't we focus on things such as reviewable pass interference, not trying to get teams to leave their homes for London and screwing with extra points. League has its priorities messed up.

Just because X is "more important" than Y doesn't mean that Y should be ignored.

 

[Froob]

Here's what our spiritual leader and patron saint, BB, had to say on the subject.....

"Philosophically, plays that are non-plays shouldn’t be in the game. I don't think it is good for the game. Extra points, when the odds are in the 99 percent range in extra points it is not a play.”

Here's the link including 22 years of EP stats....and it unequivocally proves that YES....the EP is automatic despite what you chose to believe
How Many Extra Point Kicks are Missed on Average in the NFL? - SportingCharts.com

What if you get 4th and goal at the one? Are you not allowed to attempt a field goal because it has a 99% success rate?

 

[Froob]

Well, here's what I can tell you (first number = 1970–1973, second number = 2010–2013):

Kickers with 10+ XP attempts: 43, 46
Kickers with 100+ XP attempts: 16, 27
Kickers with 100% XP conversion: 9/43, 27/46
Kickers with 100% XP conversion and 100+ attempts: 2/16, 16/27
Kickers with 3+ XP misses: 11/43, 0/46



Just because X is "more important" than Y doesn't mean that Y should be ignored.

While true, what seems to be happening is X is being ignored while only Y is being looked at. My problem is they are focusing on something that is very minor compared to big problems they aren't addressing. At least they are going to test it in pre-season versus changing it in the regular season. I can't see anyway they do 43yard. At very most it should be 30.

 

[borg]

What if you get 4th and goal at the one? Are you not allowed to attempt a field goal because it has a 99% success rate?

Really????
This is how you choose to defend the EP....by equating it with a 4th down play?
I worry for the youth of America. I guess taking away the EP is like taking away the participation trophy and the juice box.

 

[brdmaverick]

There would DEFINITELY be more two point conversions.

After all, which has greater odds.

If a team has scored two touchdowns in the a game.........

Are the odds greater for this team to make at least 1 out of 2 two point conversion attempts..............OR two 43 yard field goals?

I think it's a no brainer to go for two.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

There would DEFINITELY be more two point conversions.

After all, which has greater odds.

If a team has scored two touchdowns in the a game.........

Are the odds greater for this team to make at least 1 out of 2 two point conversion attempts..............OR two 43 yard field goals?

I think it's a no brainer to go for two.

Actually, right now, it's almost the same odds.

An 85% chance of making a 43-yarder means the probability of making two is (.85)(.85) = .723, or 72.3%. The probability of missing one (and thus losing) is 27.7%.

A ~48% chance of making at least one two-pointer on two attempts (that's the three-year average, IIRC, for 2011–2013) means that the probability of making at least one is 1 – (.52)(.52) = .729, or 72.9%. The probability of missing both (and thus losing) is 27.1%.