2023 NFL best Safeties rankings

[Real fan 02]

When has Micah Hyde mentioned retirement?



Poyer was 1st team All-Pro a season ago.

He still isn't great... Phillips is all around better than him.

 

[Real fan 02]

Poyer is 32 and was a FA in 2022. He signed for 1 year at $6.25M guaranteed which is peanuts. The 2nd year is not guaranteed. Why did an All-Pro sign for peanuts? Because the other 31 teams didn't offer him anything. Why didn't the other teams want Poyer? Because he is half washed and will be out of the league next year or the year after. Don't believe me, believe the Bills management who only offered a 1 year guaranteed contract.

Both Poyer and Hyde have had great careers but their days are winding down. Next year is probably the last for both as their talent continues to slip.

Agree 100%. When Micah went down with the neck Injury.. similar to Cam chancellor. I remember Bills media people saying he may not return becuase that type of injury is career ending.

To be considered an all pro.. you have to be able to do it all. All of safeties are tasked with many assignments and they still make plays. Poyer is good not great.. however you said it best.

 

[Real fan 02]

The Bills have 2 Safeties on the wrong side of 30.

Hyde will be 33 this season and Poyer just turned 32.

And hyde coming off a serious injury

 

[GreenCow]

He still isn't great... Phillips is all around better than him.

Maybe in a year where both Hyde and Poyer are hurt.

But never anytime else.

 

[GreenCow]

Poyer is 32 and was a FA in 2022. He signed for 1 year at $6.25M guaranteed which is peanuts. The 2nd year is not guaranteed. Why did an All-Pro sign for peanuts?

You don’t seem to understand the Free Safety market. Poyers $6.25M average per season (what you called peanuts) is top 10 in the entire NFL for free safeties.

Phillips average is only 4.25M, for example.

But yes, he is getting old. As happens to all great players.

 

[Real fan 02]

Maybe in a year where both Hyde and Poyer are hurt.

But never anytime else.

I'll take Phillips any day.. Hyde and poyer are always hurt.. so that's every year..

 

[Triumph]

The Bills window is barely open.

Didnt they get washed up Cole Beasley back? Old secondary's wont beat the Bengals or Chiefs.

The NE @ Buffalo game New Years Eve will determine the 2023 AFCE.

 

[Real fan 02]

You don’t seem to understand the Free Safety market. Poyers $6.25M average per season (what you called peanuts) is top 10 in the entire NFL for free safeties.

Phillips average is only 4.25M, for example.

But yes, he is getting old. As happens to all great players.

I believe Yahoo sports disagrees with your safety market.. see attachment.

 

[Real fan 02]

The Bills window is barely open.

Didnt they get washed up Cole Beasley back? Old secondary's wont beat the Bengals or Chiefs.

The NE @ Buffalo game New Years Eve will determine the 2023 AFCE.

Hyde and Poyer are solid NFL safeties.. however when teams are constantly taking deeps shots on your secondary you should be able to come away with INT'S.. the fact teams do that means they don't respect your secondary.

 

[Triumph]

Hyde and Poyer are solid NFL safeties.. however when teams are constantly taking deeps shots on your secondary you should be able to come away with INT'S.. the fact teams do that means they don't respect your secondary.

Half their INTs are from MJ 10.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

You don’t seem to understand the Free Safety market. Poyers $6.25M average per season (what you called peanuts) is top 10 in the entire NFL for free safeties.

Phillips average is only 4.25M, for example.

But yes, he is getting old. As happens to all great players.

Phillips is not a FS and is a nice piece, average at best. If Poyer is only $2M more than Phillips, that is an argument that Poyer is average. McCourty made $10M+ and had competing offers from other teams during his best years, and $9M a year at the end.

 

[Real fan 02]

Phillips is not a FS and is a nice piece, average at best. If Poyer is only $2M more than Phillips, that is an argument that Poyer is average. McCourty made $10M+ and had competing offers from other teams during his best years, and $9M a year at the end.

I debunked his argument. I put up the salaries of the top 10 highest paid safeties in the NFL.. ALL PRO poyer isn't even on the list.

 

[Real fan 02]

Half their INTs are from MJ 10.

Can't say I disagree..

 

[GreenCow]

I'll take Phillips any day.. Hyde and poyer are always hurt.. so that's every year..

Why make things up?

Last year was the first time in half a decade that Hyde or Poyer missed more than 1 game.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bills secondary looks like their are playing football for the first time when defending competent offenses.

 

[Real fan 02]

Why make things up?

Last year was the first time in half a decade that Hyde or Poyer missed more than 1 game.

What's to make up?.. I said they are always hurt.. didn't say anything about wether they missed time or not.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Bills secondary looks like their are playing football for the first time when defending competent offenses.

The Bills D is getting older and slower as the Bills have had awful drafts like the Pats did prior to 2020. Now that Edmunds is gone, it will be interesting to see what the D looks like. Seems like the Bills are slipping.

 

[Real fan 02]

Bills secondary looks like their are playing football for the first time when defending competent offenses.

Tre white isn't the same player he was prior to the ACL.. I know recovery takes time.. but he was getting beat by mediocre WRs last season. Without Edmonds at LB thier defense is weakened.

 

[PWRxWLF]

PFF for you. Dugger isn't even in the top 20. Some of these S rankings will make you shake your head. The other positional rankings are a doozy as well. These names ranked are not like years past that's for sure.

PFF Safety Rankings: Top 32 ahead of the 2023 NFL season

The Los Angeles Chargers' Derwin James claims the top spot in these NFL safety rankings ahead of the 2023 season.

www.pff.com

PFF’s comments about Dugger and their grades make no damn sense.

 

[Toofy]

How much will Dugger command ? 12 - 14 million ?