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The NBA has stripped the Los Angeles Clippers of five first-round draft picks and fined owner Steve Ballmer $30 million at the conclusion of its probe into allegations that All-Star Kawhi Leonard received impermissible benefits during his tenure with the team in violation of the league's salary cap.

 
I haven’t read the punishment but the C’s basically own 2 Clippers picks in a couple of years so wonder how that will work out
 
I haven’t read the punishment but the C’s basically own 2 Clippers picks in a couple of years so wonder how that will work out
I assume it is the next 5 picks that the Clippers still own (have not traded away). Could be 10+ years before the Clippers have a 1st round pick. Only thing that makes sense to me.
 
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Obviously the Clippers owner and front office circumvented the cap, but why should Clippers fans be punished like this? This is permanent suspension/major fine/forced to sell the team territory. But why would I follow the Clippers knowing they have no hope in the near term?

Seriously, what if Goodell had docked 5 first round picks for Spygate? I would have tapped out of the NFL at that point.
 
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. Obviously the Clippers owner and front office circumvented the cap, but why should Clippers fans be punished like this? This is permanent suspension/major fine/forced to sell the team territory. But why would I follow the Clippers knowing they have no hope in the near term?

Seriously, what if Goodell had docked 5 first round picks for Spygate? I would have tapped out of the NFL at that point.
The problem here is the same one I have with all of these investigations.

They are targeting one team and ignoring that many other teams are likely guilty of the same thing to some extent if not fully.

This is why I think Spygate was so stupid. I won’t even get into Deflategate since the scandal was the league itself and not the Patriots. But on the subject of Spygate, during the league’s investigation, many coaches, scouts, public television personalities, all confirmed that they do the same thing. So if you’re going to investigate, then you should take it as far as it goes and include every single accusation against every team that comes up. Otherwise, it is the definition of bias.

During a criminal investigation, if it is revealed that others are also committing crimes, it is the responsibility of the investigating agency to follow that lead as well.

And in competitive professional sports, if one is going to open this can of worms, then at the very least, there should be inquiries into every team and following any rumors or whispers that have surfaced.

But there isn’t.

It’s the same thing that the NCAA does like when they punish a school like USC, despite the public, knowing that virtually every school is guilty of these types of infractions.

And it often turns into the investigators trying to win a case rather than trying to actually objectively gather evidence. So it is basically like a police investigation, but in this case, the investigators are not bound to any later criticisms or thrown out evidence due to their tactics, nor do they need to explain their conclusions or present them to an objective party like a jury.

And finally, if all this is in fact, true, why is it that the greedy little bastard himself, Kawhi Leonard, gets a drop in the bucket fine, and no suspension? The fans already hate how greedy these guys are, which is probably the biggest perception problem or so than a competitive advantage, and all this does is **** over a fan base while the player travels into the sunset on his yacht. Not surprising though because the NBA under Adam Silver is probably the worst run major sports league I’ve ever seen.
 
The problem here is the same one I have with all of these investigations.

They are targeting one team and ignoring that many other teams are likely guilty of the same thing to some extent if not fully.

This is why I think Spygate was so stupid. I won’t even get into Deflategate since the scandal was the league itself and not the Patriots. But on the subject of Spygate, during the league’s investigation, many coaches, scouts, public television personalities, all confirmed that they do the same thing. So if you’re going to investigate, then you should take it as far as it goes and include every single accusation against every team that comes up. Otherwise, it is the definition of bias.

During a criminal investigation, if it is revealed that others are also committing crimes, it is the responsibility of the investigating agency to follow that lead as well.

And in competitive professional sports, if one is going to open this can of worms, then at the very least, there should be inquiries into every team and following any rumors or whispers that have surfaced.

But there isn’t.

It’s the same thing that the NCAA does like when they punish a school like USC, despite the public, knowing that virtually every school is guilty of these types of infractions.

And it often turns into the investigators trying to win a case rather than trying to actually objectively gather evidence. So it is basically like a police investigation, but in this case, the investigators are not bound to any later criticisms or thrown out evidence due to their tactics, nor do they need to explain their conclusions or present them to an objective party like a jury.

And finally, if all this is in fact, true, why is it that the greedy little bastard himself, Kawhi Leonard, gets a drop in the bucket fine, and no suspension? The fans already hate how greedy these guys are, which is probably the biggest perception problem or so than a competitive advantage, and all this does is **** over a fan base while the player travels into the sunset on his yacht. Not surprising though because the NBA under Adam Silver is probably the worst run major sports league I’ve ever seen.
The punishment is ridiculous.Way over the top.
But Spygate was much worse.
Yes more than half the teams in the NFL were also doing it. Redskins Coach Gibbs was the first to do it. Jimmy Johnson laughed out loud when he was told what Goodell was doing . He said the Cowboys did it in virtually game they played.
What Goodell did was probably illegal. But the owners gleefully went along because especially the old school owners like the NY Giants, Dallas Cowboys. Sam Fran etc., hated the new school dynasty Patriots.
That particular preseason, Goodell sent out a memo to all 32 teams that they would no longer allow filming from the stands. But filming from the sidelines was OK. Huh?
Belichick ignored the memo. He said that Goodell did not have the authority to enforce the memo and that this was a rule change and all rules changes, by NFL law, require a vote by the 32 voters- which never happened.
So he refused to comply. Goodell was obviously incensed that anyone would question his authority so the rest is history.
Spygate was just an ego-driven bunch of bs by Goodell and the ******* owners who complied. **** you, Mara. Giants are a garbage franchise. **** you Jerry Jones. Patriots long ago passed the irrelevant Cowboys in importance.
Patriots are THE flagship franchise of the NFL.
Don't even get me started on Deflategate.
Jeezus, excuse me for the rant, lol.
I couldn't help it.
But it helps explain why I say **** pretty much every other team in the NFL.
But **** Silver , too.
**** Pro Commisioners who are enamored by their own self- importance.
Instead how about Do the Right Thing?
How about Fairness? Above all, I believe this is al that fans,players and teams want. Fairness. Why is that so ****ing hard for you scumbag commisioners?
 
Good! Leonard and his family are pieces of **** and it was clear as day there was a violation. They were dirty and played the Lakers to get control of the Clippers. That Uncle of his is bad news.

The best part was that the Clippers won nothing, lost draft picks, the Lakers won their bubble championship at least and they traded away SGA who won a title.

What a disaster for the Clippers. They built a damn good team and traded them all away. Clippers always find a way to mess things up. They are the Jets of Los Angeles - nobody cares about them out here.
 
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Good! Leonard and his family are pieces of **** and it was clear as day there was a violation. They were dirty and played the Lakers to get control of the Clippers. That Uncle of his is bad news.

The best part was that the Clippers won nothing, lost draft picks, the Lakers won their bubble championship at least and they traded away SGA who won a title.

What a disaster for the Clippers. They built a damn good team and traded them all away. Clippers always find a way to mess things up. They are the Jets of Los Angeles - nobody cares about them out here.
Yeah - I'm inclined to say that stripping them of 5 years of 1st round draft picks is appropriate for that level of cap circumvention by the organization

I would think they could trade players for replacement draft picks but who would they trade? And the end result would be them sucking and in line for a top pick, which they wouldn't have anyways

I guess they'll build up a bunch of 2nd round picks and try to find some wheat in the chaff - and they may indeed find good players that way if they did what the Celtics did and took guys who are smart and stable - but again, these are the Clippers we're talking about - so they'll continue to take guys like Leonard
 

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