Patriots Injury News TE Julian Hill placed on IR (Vrabel confirms he's lost for 2026)

[DoubleDeluxe]

Need to check in with the Rams TEs. They’re likely not gonna be able to keep all of them:
Tyler Higbee
Terrance Ferguson
Colby Parkinson
Max Klare
Davis Allen
Dan Villari

Villari isn’t a great blocker, but a very intriguing pass catcher

 

[PatsFan2]

Need to check in with the Rams TEs. They’re likely not gonna be able to keep all of them:
Tyler Higbee
Terrance Ferguson
Colby Parkinson
Max Klare
Davis Allen
Dan Villari

Yep I posted that somewhere: the Rams are loaded @ TE. We can't go in with can't Block H Henry and Eli Raridon alone: I really wanted us to Double dip there. Tanner Koziol and Joe Royer went right before CB Karon Prunty *shrugs*. You Prunty better become a serviceable player to justify that selection: not going to lie I preferred others at the time.

 

[PatsFan2]

Villari isn’t a great blocker, but a very intriguing pass catcher

H Henry Pt.II.

 

[Wozzy]

O'h C'mon woz.

Zach “baby Gronk” Sudfeld?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

H Henry Pt.II.

Nothing wrong with a pass catching TE if used properly.
If Villari could be a younger/cheaper Henry I would have no complaints.

 

[Zuma]

I think there's more to Lampe: the Defense can't cover everybody. I think FB Brock Lampe will be one of our better Blockers who can catch some.

True

Gilliam offer nothing in the passing game too one dimensional.

False

 

[Family]

Ironically being on the practice squad as a rookie does equal a high percentage Patriots fail.

The best I can come up with from players who stayed in our organization (that's all that counts, right) are Brandon King and Jacobi Johnson.

Nice pieces, but that's it over the last 20 years.

I know there were players long ago like Troy.

 

[rkarp1]

Ironically being on the practice squad as a rookie does equal a high percentage Patriots fail.

The best I can come up with from players who stayed in our organization (that's all that counts, right) are Brandon King and Jacobi Johnson.

Nice pieces, but that's it over the last 20 years.

I know there were players long ago like Troy.

Myles Bryant, Adam Butler, Pharms, Jacobi Meyers, Mal Butler, Devlin, Ben Jarvis, Bolden....all spent time on the PS before "graduating"

 

[Family]

Adam Butler, Jacobi Meyers, M. Butler, Brandon Bolden never spent time on the practice squad as a rookie. Develin was not here as a rookie.

BJGE is probably the best player. Myles Bryant is another example. Pharms we'll see. He's been around a while.

So that's 4-5 players in 20 years with no real long term players except BJGE and King? Both were just pieces.

Not a high success rate.

 

[DaBruinz]

I think there's more to Lampe: the Defense can't cover everybody. I think FB Brock Lampe will be one of our better Blockers who can catch some. Gilliam offer nothing in the passing game too one dimensional.

Just because Gilliam wasn't used in the passing game by Buffalo (they've had fantastic TEs and good pass-catching RBs) doesn't mean he can't catch the ball. He'll never be mistaken for Larry Centers, but Gilliam is 16 of 20 in his career. That's 80% since I know you're mathematically challenged.

We have no idea what the Pats have in Lampe. Whether he can be used as a TE3/FB type player or not. Training camp will show us that.

 

[hornetfb85]

Yep I posted that somewhere: the Rams are loaded @ TE. We can't go in with can't Block H Henry and Eli Raridon alone: I really wanted us to Double dip there. Tanner Koziol and Joe Royer went right before CB Karon Prunty *shrugs*. You Prunty better become a serviceable player to justify that selection: not going to lie I preferred others at the time.

Just now went back and read the thread and saw where you posted about Rams TEs

Wonder if they’ll look to trade Higbee, and “Redshirt” one of the rookies.

 

[DaBruinz]

Myles Bryant, Adam Butler, Pharms, Jacobi Meyers, Mal Butler, Devlin, Ben Jarvis, Bolden....all spent time on the PS before "graduating"

When was Malcolm Butler on the PS?


When was Jacobi Meyers on the PS?


When was Adam Butler on the PS?

 

[Ian]

Zach “baby Gronk” Sudfeld?

Never seen anyone have the preseason he had and flame out so quickly. That was pretty crazy.

 

[DaBruinz]

Adam Butler, Jacobi Meyers, M. Butler, Brandon Bolden never spent time on the practice squad as a rookie. Develin was not here as a rookie.

BJGE is probably the best player. Myles Bryant is another example. Pharms we'll see. He's been around a while.

So that's 4-5 players in 20 years with no real long term players except BJGE and King? Both were just pieces.

Not a high success rate.

Correct. James Develin spent 1.5 years with Cincy before being waived and then signed by the Pats.

Other players that spent time on the Pats PS (though not as rookies) and "graduated" would include:
Kyle Arrington, Billy Yates, Russ Hochstein, Brandon Gorin, Steven Neal, Tom Ashworth

We've not had a lot of success since the early years of the Pats Dynasty.

 

[DaBruinz]

Need to check in with the Rams TEs. They’re likely not gonna be able to keep all of them:
Tyler Higbee
Terrance Ferguson
Colby Parkinson
Max Klare
Davis Allen
Dan Villari

They kept 4 last year. But Higbee spent a lot of time injured last year.

I've seen Parkinson's name floated around, but he was their best receiver with Higbee out. I wouldn't be surprised of it was Allen or Ferguson that's on the outside looking in. Villari is likely bound for their PS.

 

[mgteich]

Correct. James Develin spent 1.5 years with Cincy before being waived and then signed by the Pats.

Other players that spent time on the Pats PS (though not as rookies) and "graduated" would include:
Kyle Arrington, Billy Yates, Russ Hochstein, Brandon Gorin, Steven Neal, Tom Ashworth

We've not had a lot of success since the early years of the Pats Dynasty.

We seem to be defining success as signing a player to the Practice Squad during his rookie year, preventing other teams from poaching him and then having the player succeed.

Basically, we mean that we would hide a player on the PS and then sign him to the 53 the next year.

 

[DaBruinz]

We seem to be defining success as signing a player to the Practice Squad during his rookie year, preventing other teams from poaching him and then having the player succeed.

Basically, we mean that we would hide a player on the PS and then sign him to the 53 the next year.

No, MG. We're talking about the past and how the Pats have had some success with players that have spent time on the PS. Though it's few and far between.

I don't see anyone saying that the Pats should "hide a player on the PS" at all.

 

[Family]

Correct. James Develin spent 1.5 years with Cincy before being waived and then signed by the Pats.

Other players that spent time on the Pats PS (though not as rookies) and "graduated" would include:
Kyle Arrington, Billy Yates, Russ Hochstein, Brandon Gorin, Steven Neal, Tom Ashworth

We've not had a lot of success since the early years of the Pats Dynasty.

Arrington, Hochinstein, Gorin, were not here as a rookies.

My guideline was the last 20 years. Most of your group is longer, though the rest are examples of successes.

We seem to be defining success as signing a player to the Practice Squad during his rookie year, preventing other teams from poaching him and then having the player succeed.

Basically, we mean that we would hide a player on the PS and then sign him to the 53 the next year.

Are you saying developing a player means hiding him?

There must be more than a dozen rookies on our practice squad every year and only about a total of 4 have amounted to anything within our organization in 20 years.

The discussion was CJ Dippre and his chances of being a meaningful player here.

This is the odds.

 

[mgteich]

Arrington, Hochinstein, Gorin, were not here as a rookies.

My guideline was the last 20 years. Most of your group is longer, though the rest are examples of successes.




Are you saying developing a player means hiding him?

There must be more than a dozen rookies on our practice squad every year and only about a total of 4 have amounted to anything within our organization in 20 years.

The discussion was CJ Dippre and his chances of being a meaningful player here.

This is the odds.

 

[mgteich]

Perhaps, someome time before Labor Day, we can have an extensive discussion of the management of the Practice Squad and its uses.

And the odds of developing a player who played on someone else's Practice Squad is likely to be about the same as the percentage of signing our own to the 53 in the next year. Please correct.

Many folks think that the point of the PS is to develop players who can come to the 53 in future years. I don't think that this is so in the sense that our Practice Squad players aren't anything special. We could sign anyone's.

HOWEVER
1) Under the current rules, the Practice Squad is primarily a source of help THIS YEAR. This extension of the roster allows for elevations of a player for 1-3 weeks. If a player proves to be valuable enough, he can then be signed to the 53-man squad.
2) And, yes, these players are needed for "practice", hence the name.
3) There can be players who are on the Practice Squad with the understanding that the team considers him part of the future and agrees with the player that any offer will be brought to the team so that the team will make an offer. Of course, the player can choose to move on.
4) Players that the team truly wants to keep are on the 53 rather than having them at risk to be poached. I almost never am upset when one of our PS players is poached. It simply means that another team valued him more than we did and that we had 53 players that we valued higher.