Patriots Pregame Thread Pre-game Thread: Jets @ Pats

[ashley]

What’s the estimate for next years cap space?

Here you go, obviously this can change, but this is a good estimate:

 

[venecol]

What’s the estimate for next years cap space?

According to OTC it's $60M but Miguel has us at $41M. Not sure why so much difference but I trust Miguel's numbers.

 

[PatsFan2]

Let's hope he stays on the field and not in the Tub. Hope some of those other young guys step up too.

 

[mike_usagisan]

The pats will make the playoffs & be a tough out if they can get their offense to average. They were above average last year with a rookie QB.

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

 

[Sicilian]

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

One of the rules of Patsfans:

Everything good the defense does is because BB is a good defensive coach, or the opponent screwed up.

Everything bad the defense does is because of <insert current DC here> or because BB sucks as a GM.

 

[venecol]

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

 

[venecol]

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

Since 2019 the D has looked good to great against weaker opponents, then in Dec/Jan they fall apart. Let's hope they continue their perf. against a tougher 2nd half schedule.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

He picked a bad day to try meth. Professional suicide, who would hire this guy after that display?

 

[Kontradiction]

He picked a bad day to try meth. Professional suicide, who would hire this guy after that display?

Yeah, if you need to take that much Adderall in order to focus on the game, you’re probably not the best guy for the job. In the end, though, the defense is BB’s.

 

[signbabybrady]

How good has Andor been!?

 

[Zuma]

How good has Andor been!?

IMO its better then The Mandalorian and most of the movies.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

2019 - #1 defense in the NFL, holds the chiefs to 26 points & the titans to 14 points. While the defense regressed they were still pretty good & they would’ve went deep in the playoffs if the offense didn’t take a nosedive.

2020 - Despite having arguably the worst front seven in the NFL the defense is competitive holding the chiefs to 19 points, shutting down herbert, lamar & murray.

2021 - Switches defensive scheme up midseason to zone due to a lack of talent at CB to play man with jonathan jones out for the season. Defense implodes in playoffs with pass rush out of gas & williams & bryant playing CB.

Present

• Defense playing at a high level & is on pace for 60 sacks (previous high during BB era is 49). Also switches scheme back to cover 1.
• Jonathan Jones switches from slot CB to outside CB. Having a career year.
• Wise having a career year as a full-time player.
• Entered the season having one of worst CB groups in NFL & now have a top 5 group at the position

Obviously BB helps but the defense has shown the ability to adapt & put players in position to succeed. Steve & Mayo have done a pretty good job here IMO.



I’m bullish on this defense moving forward because they are back to playing man & they have the pass rush to compliment the coverage. It remains to be seen if allen’s athleticism will expose their weakness similar to lamar & fields but it should be better than last season’s debacle.

 

[PowerRunRevival]

Every year, the defense looks good to great. And every year, posters complain about Steve Belichick. Can someone make a chart for that?

I really like how much pressure the defensive line can bring in this years version. The run defense has actually had its moments even if on the whole it has been lacking.

Going forward I think the defenses biggest issue is defending mobile QBs, if they can clean that up this could end up as the best defense Steve Belichick has coached.

 

[ashley]

Good article regarding the 2023 Free Agent Class-lists the top 10, notice Jacoby is at number 9.

2023 NFL Free Agent Rankings: Top 200 players set to enter free agency

We look at the 200 best players set to hit the free-agent market this offseason with free agency less than a week away.

www.pff.com

 

[Stu Pidassle]

Since 2019 the D has looked good to great against weaker opponents, then in Dec/Jan they fall apart. Let's hope they continue their perf. against a tougher 2nd half schedule.

At the end of the day this is more about a lack of big game players and/or injuries than the scheme. If the team is going to break the trend this year Judon, Wise and the Jones's need to continue to make timely, game changing plays.

 

[PatsFan2]

Good article regarding the 2023 Free Agent Class-lists the top 10, notice Jacoby is at number 9.

2023 NFL Free Agent Rankings: Top 200 players set to enter free agency

We look at the 200 best players set to hit the free-agent market this offseason with free agency less than a week away.

www.pff.com

Very interesting but 2023 is not a spectacular class for FA WR's I like a few guys though.

JuJu Smith-Schuster = wish we were more aggressive for him last FA 445yds and counting with Mahomes.

Jacobi Meyers = I think he's going for the $$$$$ and better QB play.

Mecole Hardman = He's been a decent speed WR from the Harry Draft I think we would have been happy with a Hardman selection no pun.

Allen Lazard = Very interesting player knows how to get in the EZ way more career TD than Meyers thus far.

DJ Chark = We might get another shot at him next FA I am sure Detroit is moving on.

Like I said not a very impressive class but they are few guys here and there. I wouldn't break the bank for any of those WR's Meyers included.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Very interesting but 2023 is not a spectacular class for FA WR's I like a few guys though.

JuJu Smith-Schuster = wish we were more aggressive for him last FA 445yds and counting with Mahomes.

Jacobi Meyers = I think he's going for the $$$$$ and better QB play.

Mecole Hardman = He's been a decent speed WR from the Harry Draft I think we would have been happy with a Hardman selection no pun.

Allen Lazard = Very interesting player knows how to get in the EZ way more career TD than Meyers thus far.

DJ Chark = We might get another shot at him next FA I am sure Detroit is moving on.

Like I said not a very impressive class but they are few guys here and there. I wouldn't break the bank for any of those WR's Meyers included.

Any good LBs? I feel like that's the weakness on defense.

 

[PatsFan2]

Any good LBs? I feel like that's the weakness on defense.

I didn't check mike: you know how I feel about Good WR's.

2023 NFL Free Agents Tracker

Tracking the status and signings of all 2023 NFL free agents.

www.spotrac.com

 

[signbabybrady]

Very interesting but 2023 is not a spectacular class for FA WR's I like a few guys though.

JuJu Smith-Schuster = wish we were more aggressive for him last FA 445yds and counting with Mahomes.

Jacobi Meyers = I think he's going for the $$$$$ and better QB play.

Mecole Hardman = He's been a decent speed WR from the Harry Draft I think we would have been happy with a Hardman selection no pun.

Allen Lazard = Very interesting player knows how to get in the EZ way more career TD than Meyers thus far.

DJ Chark = We might get another shot at him next FA I am sure Detroit is moving on.

Like I said not a very impressive class but they are few guys here and there. I wouldn't break the bank for any of those WR's Meyers included.

Spend on the best Offensive tackle you can find.
TEs
More defense
Then WR.

 

[venecol]

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