Let's put it this way: if the Vagiants sucked, then we are pretty f'n terrible.
Well, they didn't suck but I disagree anyway: Any given Sunday.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Let's put it this way: if the Vagiants sucked, then we are pretty f'n terrible.
Well, they didn't suck but I disagree anyway: Any given Sunday.
Any given Sunday is true, but if we were such the superior team to the Giants, we would have been up by 21+ going into the 4th quarter.
I'm not saying that when faced with it, they didnt rise to the challenge. My point is, that to even get to be able to win 10 straight on the road, they had to suck to begin with.
The Giants played a great game in the Super Bowl but let's call a spade a spade, please.
They beat a 9-7 Tampa Bay Bucs team that had a solid defense but truly struggled to do anything on offense. They then went into Dallas and beat Dallas - a team whose quarterback can cough up a game pretty easily, whose head coach thought the way to beat the Patriots was to take away their running game, and whose mercurial WR was coming off of an injury. A Dallas choke in the playoffs was the easiest thing to predict last season.
They then went into Green Bay and won because Brett Favre became the Brett Favre we had all come to expect the last four years. They played terribly in that game and Favre handed them the ball in field goal range in OT.
They then won against the Patriots because of a miracle catch. I give them all the credit in the world for keeping the game close up to that point and playing lights out defense until the fourth quarter, but they won because David Tyree caught a ball on his helmet after Eli Manning squirmed out of at least two tackles.
In the end, being the worst Super Bowl winner ever is better than the best Super Bowl loser, but there is a reason why the Giants winning is the biggest upset in NFL history. Paying your respects to them shouldn't blind you of that fact.
The Giants are not as good as the Patriots. Period.
I am not going to ignore objectivity (and that's what it is when you look at the whole of what they accomplished last year and the competition they did it against) just to accommodate the expectations of respect you think they deserve because they beat the Patriots in the final game of the season.
It's tough to win four games away from home regardless of competition but that doesn't change the fact that they were an unimpressive team whose defense played impressively in one game.
Yea, He lost me on that one.
The Giants are not as good as the Patriots. Period.
I am not going to ignore objectivity (and that's what it is when you look at the whole of what they accomplished last year and the competition they did it against) just to accommodate the expectations of respect you think they deserve because they beat the Patriots in the final game of the season.
It's tough to win four games away from home regardless of competition but that doesn't change the fact that they were an unimpressive team whose defense played impressively in one game.
In order to play road games in the playoffs, you have to have LOST enough to not get any home games....thats all im saying.
yeah it's kinda like having the record for the most 38 point comebacks in a season.
you had to be crappy to even be in the position to break that impressive record.
In order to play road games in the playoffs, you have to have LOST enough to not get any home games....thats all im saying.
And the Pats weren't as good as the Rams were in the 2001 season either. They were an unimpressive team that year too. People cried about the tuck rule and 2 special teams TDs in the playoffs. It didn't change the fact that the Pats won the Super Bowl.
There are some big differences between the two teams. One Pats were a division winner and the Giants were a Wild Card team. Two the Pats had a bye meaning they were the 2nd best afc team thru the regular season. Third the Pats went on to validate that it wasn't a fluke.
Now back to the point at hand I think the Giants deserve the credit for winning the game but I don't think that means we have to roll over for them and call them the better team. A flukey win from a team that was playing hard nosed smash mouth football and new how to give themselves a chance and than capitalized on that chance.
You quoted the wrong person, but oh well. The Pats were 11-5 in 2001 and the Giants were 10-6. There isn't all that much difference. If say the Dolphins were 13-3 in 2001 like the Cowboys were last year, the Pats would have been a Wild Card team too. The Pats record in 2001 wasn't good enough to win the NFC East in 2007.
As for the Giants proving they aren't a fluke, only time will tell.
I don't think the Giants are an elite team in the NFL, but that doesn't change their road win streak wasn't impressive. I don't know why some Pats fans have to tear down that streak. I don't know why some Pats fans think it is some kind of an afront to the Patriots. And I definitely don't get why some Pats fans are using the same bogus arguments that Patriots haters have used against the Patriots that were BS then and still BS now.
I think the Pats would beat the Giants 9 times out of 10 times they would meet. But I tip my cap to them for what they accomplished last year. It was very similiar to what the Pats did in the 2001 season. The Pats were able to repeat and build on that success and the Giants may not, but it doesn't take away from the season itself. Why act like Raiders and Steelers fans and not give the Giants their props?
Sorry if this has already been brought up...but dont people realize that the giants 10 straight on the road winning streak that they boast about is only possible because they had to be bad enough to get zero home playoff games?
you know whats better? 18 straight games home and away.
Just saw nfln and the giants were showing their rings, and I had to post this.
you know whats better? 18 straight games home and away.
The Giants really came together at the end of the year, and I definitely can't say anything bad about that. Their defense was just unbelievable.
I'll be interested to see if they can carry it over into this season...
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